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Re: Marvelous 1996 RB Renovation
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What is that saying, in the eyes of the beholder. The minute I saw the white interior I stopped watching.
Steve and Jill, Steve posting
1999 26.5 Mid-Bath
Re: Marvelous 1996 RB Renovation
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Quote from: StevenJill  - 
What is that saying, in the eyes of the beholder. The minute I saw the white interior I stopped watching.
I am also not a fan of the transformation, the original LD has so much character, but she is the one living in it and I am sure she will enjoy her RV. One of the joys of getting an older rig is you feel free to add on and tinker. I did like the brackets she used to store the ladder and also the foldable shelves in the bunkhouse area.
AlphPup
 2001 TK “Dazi”
Re: Marvelous 1996 RB Renovation
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For those who are interested, here are links to the folding hooks she used, as well as the folding shelves.

Another type of folding hook that I've used is the outside compartment door latch. When mounted with the hinge at the bottom, these make handy light-duty hooks. And unlike the larger looks she used, these automatically fold up and out of the way when not in use, thanks to their spring-loaded design.

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Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Marvelous 1996 RB Renovation
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I’m a fan of Linda Yashi’s ideas for what she’s done inside her rig, gave me ideas on what to do with mine.

Would I paint my RV interior white?  No, not because I hate the look, I think it’s a fine update to an older rig that has lots of wear inside.  But white is just too impractical to keep clean on the road.  Stock look of a LD hides dirt a bit better.

FYI, her rig isn’t a RB, it’s a TK.
Dave

2017 TK
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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Hi Andy,  The compartment door latches aren't deep enough for the bunk ladder and the spring loaded part would be unfriendly trying to line the ladder up.  My ladder is safely stored in my garage where it has been since day one. It'll go with the coach when (if) I sell it.  I do have those latches (stainless steel version) mounted under the above sink cabinet to string a banana/fruit net on.
    Thank you Margee for introducing these videos.  It's always interesting to see what these owners have done, and the things they say about why they did it. Sometimes a little off base.  I know my 'TK well and her '96 is very close.  She does have some serious outer skin corrosion going on, driver side though.
    Many of the 'House flipper'  shows toss things around to make it look 'homey' inside without regards to usefulness, and in Linda Yoshi's first video she is commenting about things she doesn't like that she is going to get 'rid of'.  What she and others don't realize is that the newer iterations of Lazy Daze floorplans actually have tried out many of those things. First she should live in it and get used to the idea that it is a camper, not a house, and that some of those things do serve a useful purpose.   What? She couldn't figure out how to latch the rear table in the UP position!  I've never worried about the table falling on me.  That's where we sleep and I've been through the unfold-refold exercise at least 600 times! So now she has a table that folds down the middle, and whose legs cover the entire width of the aisle. Good luck getting your legs on the aft end of that.  The one center post works well. I have a cabinet latch magnet to hold it up against the table when it is folded. I also have a sleeve of foam to protect toes when it is down on the floor.
    Inside color.  LD changed the color of wood grain on the inside to a lighter 'blonde' color in 2002, and I would have liked that. I prefer a white ceiling. The washable, plastic, textured, wall and ceiling coverings have held up well.  Speaking of dingy inside, I'm not a fan of the later LD ceilings that were 'pre dirtied' with a beige pattern.  I know that any defects in the white were really hard to conceal, but the new pattern is too dark for me.  What with whiter and brighter LED ceiling lighting maybe that is easier to ignore.
    I agree with Dave, that after years of wear and tear, with sunlight changing the interior wood coloring to a green tinge (the red components of the coloring always fade first) that an antique white or so can help cover that. It is really hard to paint over vinyl, so that your covering doesn't nick or peel off at any little 'ding'.
    It was amusing that Linda couldn't figure figure out why that storage compartment in the cabover was there.  Lazy Daze clearly intended people to have their heads on the curb side. My year went to the cheap one incandescent bulb lights.  With crowned roads higher in the middle, I prefer that my head be above my feet, so I had LD install another two light fixtures on the driver side. ( I just wanted to relocate them but no! from Ed) so then they put in unswitched lights and one switch on the wall for both. I fixed that, but hard to delete holes in walls.  I put in a recess there for a digital alarm clock with NBS time signal.  I notice Linda had a 'posed' battery powered light on her shelf.
    Great to look at the changes. Linda didn't paint all of the walls, just most.  It is hers to live in and I'm happy that she is pleased with the results.   RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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And all these years I thought I was the only one who found these whitewashed LD interiors unappealing and impractical.

Steve
2015 TK
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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"The compartment door latches aren't deep enough for the bunk ladder and the spring loaded part would be unfriendly trying to line the ladder up."

That's why I said "light duty." I used one to hang my shirt on overnight, and one to hang a jacket on.

"I'm not a fan of the later LD ceilings that were 'pre dirtied' with a beige pattern."

Agreed. I hate that.

I generally like a light interior, but Linda's interior was a bit too white for me. However, in my first Lazy Daze I lightened it in a way that didn't go to extremes, and was a lot easier than painting over vinyl. My 1985 Twin/King had an interior lined with dark imitation barn wood paneling (complete with fake saw marks and nail holes--ugh!). Rather than try to paint the whole interior, I filled in the inner panels of the drawers, cabinet doors, and fridge door with almond-colored Con-Tact film. As the photo on this page shows, it lightened up the room nicely. It cost about  twenty bucks and only took a couple of hours to do.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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Van life style comes to Class C land! Watching Linda's video got me to finally decide NOT to paint the interior of my 1991 LD white, or close to white. Because I keep realizing that my RV... even back then... was the result of years and years of continuous improvement. Which means you make big changes at your own peril, ignoring a design based on years of practical experience. I feel that painting it white would actually be an insult, in a way, to the original designers. And the standard darker interior, along with the tinted windows, is wonderful in the heat of summer here in Arizona. RV interior design? Less is more, unless you are trying for a story in Architectural Digest, or more views as a YouTube influencer...
P.S. just read Andy's story on improving Gertie's interior. Great writing! Laughing out loud about his quickie carpet replace... will try that!
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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a design based on years of practical experience.

Love my LD but along with all that practical experience, I'm thinkin' there was a lot of stubborn resistance to change.  :D  :D
jor
09 27' MB
10  Suby Forester
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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Hi JOR;  Along with changes is retraining the workforce, restocking supplies with newer 'stuff' and avoiding irritating long time customers. Especially the customers who are getting their resources ready to buy new rigs.
    Many short term 'fads' have come and gone in home decorating and RV decorating that bypassed LD. LD also let the marketplace settle down before adopting the changes that did make long term progress.
    With Ford reducing the gauge of wiring going to the rear tail lights I never understood why LD didn't order the towing harness, or go to the standard LED 4" brake lightsthat trucks used, for greater 'brake' brightness.  It was an easy thing they could have done, but they waited until the new stripe pattern and oddly shaped tail light assembly to do it. I think Steve Newton stepped in to make those changes. I remember when the roof rack disappeared, and even the ladder one year. It returned the next year (IIRC).
     So no Lazy Daze missing propane ovens, or convection microwaves. No 4 door huge refrigerators or slideouts. Along with that the shrinking OCC's.     RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB
Re: Marvelous 1996 TK Renovation
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"you make big changes at your own peril, ignoring a design based on years of practical experience."

Weeeeelllll... there's design, and then there's design. No question that Lazy Daze's overall mechanical design was a solid one, with few exceptions (e.g., Lake Newton). But as far as interior design was concerned, many of us over the years have lamented the Newtons' apparent lack of design sense.

Take my rig Gertie, for example. Shag carpeting everywhere, including in the bathroom (!)--seriously impractical. I've already mentioned the dark imitation barn wood paneling with phony saw marks and nail heads. It was ugly. Or look at the upholstery fabrics they used for years--what we jokingly called "Inside of airsick bag" (my midbath) and later, "Explosion in a paint factory." These were designs that I and others had no qualms about improving, by replacing carpet with vinyl or tongue-and-groove flooring, reupholstering (or in my case, making quick and dirty slipcovers), and so on.

As someone recently remarked, one advantage of buying a used rig is that you're much less reluctant to make changes and improvements to suit your needs. But I bought my first Airstream brand new, yet I had no hesitation in replacing one of the dinette benches with an office chair, not to mention almost completely rewiring the 12 V and 120 V systems.

Bottom line: I respected the solid foundation that Lazy Daze provided, and I was grateful for it--but I regarded it as just that: a foundation. I knew my needs better than the factory could, so I didn't hesitate to tailor my environment to suit me. I've done that with every RV I've owned, and they were all the better for it.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"