Chirping May 25, 2023, 02:03:00 pm I own a 2016 LD. Recently there has been a "chirp" similar to a smoke alarm low battery sound. I removed the smoke alarm and COdetector and it is still there. It sounds like it is coming from theDometic A/C. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks for your help, Sandy Brownson
Re: Chirping Reply #1 – May 25, 2023, 02:37:47 pm It might be a signal that your propane detector has expired and is giving you a warning beep. They do expire after a certain number of years.Steve K
Re: Chirping Reply #2 – May 25, 2023, 04:13:59 pm I would guess the propane leak sensor too, but for a 2016, should have chirped in 2021, unless it was replaced early.
Re: Chirping Reply #3 – May 25, 2023, 04:35:24 pm The propane detector sounds like a possibility. It has not been replaced. Where do I find it? Is there a way to be sure that the LPG detector is the problem.
Re: Chirping Reply #4 – May 25, 2023, 04:47:08 pm I just realized that you must mean the CO detector that is wall mounted.I removed it to be sure it is not the source of the chirping. I also removed the smoke detector to rule that out.
Re: Chirping Reply #5 – May 25, 2023, 04:56:04 pm Hi Sandy; Your past posts state you that you have a 2013 Lazy Daze. The LP detectors have a built in timer (while powered up) that provides a 5 year lifetime. At "End Of Life" they beep every few hours and can be reset. After 30 days, they start alarming and can't be silenced. If you do have a 2013, It's been ten years, and your second one has expired. I'm about to order a Pangaea for myself. PANGAEA Digital RV Propane Gas Detector with 85dB Loud Alarm, DC 12V, for... They provide a constant red LED display of the realtime detected level of LP gas, and use less power than the older MTI detectors. 45 milliamps. They say they fit in the same hole size as the MTI detectors in my '99 'TK. They come in Black, Brown and White. (Flush mount, in the wall) Newer rigs do have a different shaped, smaller hole, as Greg(HILOLA) and Dave Katleman have. (2017's) This detector also comes in that smaller size, also in Black, Brown and White. (Flush mount, in the wall) They also say a 5 year lifetime, deep in the text. RonB 2 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Chirping Reply #6 – May 25, 2023, 05:05:15 pm Hi Sandy; The propane detector (propane is slightly heavier than air, and may settle) is placed near the floor. If it is an MTI alarm, there is a red and green LED, that will flash red-red-green-green alternately to denote the EOL situation. Otherwise there is an always on green LED to signal that it is powered on by your 12vdc. house batteries. That is stated on the front panel: 35 Series Dual LP & Carbon Monoxide Alarm, Black | Camping World This one is a combined LP and CO alarm. Takes 108 ma. to operate. RonB 1 Likes
Re: Chirping Reply #7 – May 25, 2023, 05:09:17 pm Ron, You hit the nail on the head. I just removed the gas detector andthe chirping stopped. I'll order a new one today. Thanks for your help. Sandy
Re: Chirping Reply #8 – May 25, 2023, 09:00:34 pm I’d recommend getting a few WAGO 221 connectors while you’re at it, it’s easier to wire in the new detector than the wire nuts you’ll see. Used them when I replaced mine last summer. 3 Likes
Re: Chirping Reply #9 – May 25, 2023, 11:07:12 pm Does the 2003 LD have the propane detector? I've owned my rig for 13 years and nothing near the floor has chirped. The CO detector works. I know because the alarm sounds at the slightest provocation.Thanks!
Re: Chirping Reply #10 – May 26, 2023, 02:36:47 am Quote from: Judy Dewey - May 25, 2023, 11:07:12 pmDoes the 2003 LD have the propane detector? I've owned my rig for 13 years and nothing near the floor has chirped. The CO detector works. I know because the alarm sounds at the slightest provocation.Yes it did, according to the spec sheet for 20031999 to 2021 LD Original Prices, Specifications & Features Information : Additional safety features include: Smoke alarm, propane gas detector, carbon monoxide alarm
Re: Chirping Reply #11 – May 26, 2023, 04:11:01 am Hi Judy; Yes your 2003 had the CCI or MTI type detector. The old ones didn't have an automatic shut off in five years. They just quietly quit working. It may even have a green light on. The self test button may elicit an alarm, or not. To easily test it, get a propane lighter, such as you would use to light the pilot on the oven. Light it and while keeping your finger on the button, blow out the flame. Hold the (not hot) end up against the slots on the alarm. Butane will set off the alarm in less than a minute. My bet is nothing will happen, and you will need a new detector. RonB 2 Likes
Re: Chirping Reply #12 – May 26, 2023, 12:10:39 pm In my 2003 midbath the propane detector was directly below the two drawers that are between the sink and stove. It was a dark brown horizontal rectangle. As Ron noted, these detectors have a working life of about five years, so even if that detector was new when you bought the rig, after thirteen years it's definitely due for replacement.
Re: Chirping Reply #13 – May 26, 2023, 10:23:43 pm Thank you, Dave, Ron, and Andy. I will definitely look into this right away!BTW, my CO detector works -- almost too well -- very sensitive! ;-)
Re: Chirping Reply #14 – May 27, 2023, 01:19:31 pm To quote one of my friends (who shall remain nameless here) at the Caravan Club meeting last week at Lake Cachuma: "When is the last time you tested your LPG detector?"... reply: "It wouldn't stop beeping, so I disconnected it". "How long ago?"... reply "Maybe 12 years ago". That same day I checked another rig, and that one also had an original (early 2000's) LPG detector that was non working, and definitely timed out. (CO detector also, and smoke detector with no batteries). A few years ago a friend bought a Toy hauler, 2002 vintage. All of the detectors were original equipment and non functional. I suspect that many people think that because they are there on the ceiling, or near the floor that they work. They are unaware how to test them, and don't want to spend hundreds$$ to have them replaced. The CO and smoke detectors get their batteries replaced, sometimes. When new owners show up at CC meetings I try to check the 'new to them' older rigs for operational detectors. I carry batteries for that. (well my own use too). In long ago days in the Navy, I was a test and measurement specialist, so I must have been permanently altered by that. (yes, I have six various type fire extinguishers in the rig, and they all work!) RonB 4 Likes
Re: Chirping Reply #15 – May 27, 2023, 01:50:55 pm Ron, all you need now is an OBA, and you’ll be set!
Re: Chirping Reply #16 – May 27, 2023, 03:27:18 pm "In long ago days in the Navy, I was a test and measurement specialist, ..."Ah yes, I remember that type, and later on, employed at Systron Donner, we had our own Quality Assurance Team. I loved those guys too, kept me on top of the game!
Re: Chirping Reply #17 – May 27, 2023, 07:06:39 pm Hi Greg. Spent lots of hours wearing that rebreather Oxygen breathing apparatus - Wikipedia and a yellow slicker suit (even in 100 degree weather). Radiologic survey during nuke weapon handling. I did find a CO spray bottle to actually test CO detectors. Not just test the electronics behind the sensor. https://www.homedepot.com/p/MTI-Industries-Carbon-Monoxide-Test-Gas-19-oz-Aerosol-Can-SA-HHTG-1/312461834#overlay. And smoke in a spray can to test smoke detectors. RonB
Re: Chirping Reply #18 – May 29, 2023, 02:01:04 pm " I'm about to order a Pangaea for myself. PANGAEA Digital RV Propane Gas Detector with 85dB Loud Alarm, DC 12V "Ron, Please let us know how that Pangaea Detector fits in your rig, we are due for a change in our 98~MB. Karen~Liam 98 ~ MB NinA
Re: Chirping Reply #19 – May 29, 2023, 02:20:10 pm Hi Liam. Jason (SRGR8); Replaced his alarm with the Pangaea unit about a year ago. RV propane sensor perhaps he can fill us in with how it works. I haven't received the one I ordered yet. (maybe today) RonB
Re: Chirping Reply #20 – May 29, 2023, 04:12:51 pm Quote from: RonB - May 29, 2023, 02:20:10 pmHi Liam. Jason (SRGR8); Replaced his alarm with the Pangaea unit about a year ago. RV propane sensor perhaps he can fill us in with how it works. I haven't received the one I ordered yet. (maybe today) RonBHi everyone, I found it super easy to install (just a few minutes) and it certainly hasn’t given me any problems after a year of use. It know it works: someone seemingly bumped a dial on the stove and it alarmed while we were sitting outside of the rig. Probably (hopefully) would have smelled the propane before the alert if we were inside at the time. Now I try to do a better job of checking those dials when we leave the rig. 😀Clicking on Ron’s link reveals that it’s even a few dollars cheaper than when I bought it. Hope that’s helpful!Jason
Re: Chirping Reply #21 – May 29, 2023, 05:30:55 pm "someone seemingly bumped a dial on the stove"That happened to me more than once. It's a potentially disastrous situation, and is another good reason to be sure that one's propane detector is working. (I replaced my original stove with a Force 10 marine stove that had recessed knobs that couldn't be accidentally pressed, but that's an expensive solution.)
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