New stove ignitor February 09, 2022, 01:03:51 pm Our LD's quartz stove ignitor failed on our fall trip. Hating the loud, clacking noise in the early morning, a silent, battery-powered BBQ ignitor replaced the defective ignitor, at a cost of about $10. The installation took about half an hour.It's a pleasure to light a burner with the push of a button.https://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72177720296559081/Larry 3 Likes
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #1 – February 09, 2022, 01:18:03 pm Larry, I don’t have permission to see your newest upgrade. And I’d sure like to see it.
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #2 – February 09, 2022, 01:25:48 pm Quote from: Ed & Margee - February 09, 2022, 01:18:03 pmLarry, I don’t have permission to see your newest upgrade. And I’d sure like to see it. Is it working now?Larry
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #3 – February 09, 2022, 02:52:10 pm Quote from: Larry W - February 09, 2022, 01:25:48 pmIs it working now?It’s working like a charm!
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #4 – February 09, 2022, 11:29:41 pm Quote from: Larry W - February 09, 2022, 01:03:51 pmOur LD's quartz stove ignitor failed on our fall trip. Hating the loud, clacking noise in the early morning, a silent, battery-powered BBQ ignitor replaced the defective ignitor, at a cost of about $10. The installation took about half an hour.LarryOoh I like that. Do the original wires to the burners just plug right into the back of the spark generator unit? Would one of these be able to ignite the oven? If so, I could get the four output unit.
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #5 – February 10, 2022, 12:59:47 am No, the connectors are a different shape and have to be tweaked. The trick with the oven would be using a high-temperature electrically insulated sheath for the wire...Steve
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #6 – February 10, 2022, 01:19:01 am Only the three stovetop burners have an ignitor. The oven will still need to be lit the usual way.The pins on the new ignitor are round, whereas the stock pins are rectangular. The stock pins can be squeezed with needle-nose pliers and can be made round enough to fit snuggly on the new ignitor's rear contacts.Larry
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #7 – February 10, 2022, 01:45:11 am A person years ago complained to me that she hated having to light the oven every time she used it. You don't. The oven can be lit once and left lit for weeks at a time. The Off position for the oven does turn off the gas. But you can just turn off the oven and leave the pilot on, in the pilot position. It uses almost no gas, and if it blew out would be nearly un noticed, even by the propane detector. I once (accidentally) left the pilot on for a few months. The oven is vented at the top back behind the burners of the stove top, so it doesn't even build up any heat to speak of. RonB 1 Likes
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #8 – February 10, 2022, 10:03:33 am Home gas oven igniters do not use a high voltage spark. They have a heating element interlocked with the gas valve and a heat sensor. Such a heating element can withstand the high temperature of the oven, but consumes a lot of power to do the job. It seems unlikely a spark igniter tip could be successfully used in the oven.Also, the triple output igniter mod is a tight fit. A larger model might not.Steve
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #9 – February 10, 2022, 10:09:24 am I ordered a 4 pack of stove lighters just the other day. Bic multi purpose. 2 Likes
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #10 – February 10, 2022, 12:30:25 pm Quote from: Steve - February 10, 2022, 10:03:33 am. It seems unlikely a spark igniter tip could be successfully used in the oven.Also, the triple output igniter mod is a tight fit. A larger model might not.The oven uses a thermocouple that needs heating before the gas valve opens. Even if a spark could light it, you would have no idea if it occurred, without looking. Ron's suggestion to leave the pilot on, while parked, is fine for those that use the oven daily.We only use it occasionally, so the pilot is never left on when not in use.The triple outlet ignitor barely fit, requiring a little tweaking to install, a four outlet ignitor would not fit due to its larger size.Larry
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #11 – February 10, 2022, 12:43:15 pm Hi Larry; congratulations on your knee replacement; I hope your recovery is uneventful and quick. We keep cat food in the oven, so it all has to be cleared out before use so it gives me a chance to inspect the insides and to light the pilot. An extended reach lighter is right there in the kitchen drawer, never far away in any motorhome kitchen! The 'twack' of a piezzo lighter is music to my ears so far. So as long as it continues to work, I'm good. I have a small battery powered one waiting in the wings if needed. RonB
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #12 – February 10, 2022, 01:08:01 pm The Force 10 marine stoves I installed in my Lazy Daze and my first Airstream used a battery-ordered (non-piezo) ignitor for the oven as well as the burners. The sequence was 1) press and hold down the oven control knob, 2) press the ignitor button, 3) keep holding the oven knob for twenty seconds or so to give the thermocouple time to warm up. So it can be done. It was very nice not to have to get down on my knees every time I wanted to use the oven or broiler.
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #13 – February 10, 2022, 02:36:35 pm Larry, can you give us the ordering info for the igniter you used? I may want to give it a try for the manual light stove in our trailer.Rich
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #14 – February 10, 2022, 03:03:55 pm Quote from: Rich Gort - February 10, 2022, 02:36:35 pmcan you give us the ordering info for the igniter you used? I may want to give it a try for the manual light stove in our trailer.The link is in the Flickr file, listed in the original posting.Amazon.com : onlyfire Spark Generator 3 Male Outlet AA Battery Push Button...Larry As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #15 – February 10, 2022, 06:38:34 pm Thanks, Larry, I sure didn't see it there.Rich
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #16 – February 14, 2022, 12:05:51 pm We installed the Furrion 2 in 1 range in our son's tiniHouse, it's basically the same size as the Atwood with three burners except it has an oven igniter which works when you turn the wheel like on the Atwood. We were sold on that feature immediately. The control dials light up with a 12v switch on the front of the unit and it has an oven light. We would have not have run 12v power to the oven for only the dial lights but we did to gain the oven light. Larry Wishing you All the Best for a Speedy Recovery! Karen~Liam 98 ~ MB NinA
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #17 – February 14, 2022, 03:14:57 pm "Larry Wishing you All the Best for a Speedy Recovery!"So what is it that Larry is "recovering" from? Cootys mayhap? He'd better hurry, March is near at hand! 1 Likes
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #18 – February 14, 2022, 06:08:35 pm Quote from: Lazy Bones - February 14, 2022, 03:14:57 pm"Larry Wishing you All the Best for a Speedy Recovery!"So what is it that Larry is "recovering" from? Cootys mayhap? He'd better hurry, March is near at hand! See message #11 in this thread.Chris 2 Likes
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #19 – March 19, 2022, 10:21:45 am Wondered about an igniter in the oven with the higher operating temperature environment compared to a stovetop, but Andy's post convinced me to give it a try. Ordered a pigtailed igniter and some high-temp sleeving to cover the silicone insulated wire and kludged an installation at the oven pilot. I changed my electronic 3-port to a 4-port ignitor. It works nicely after a little fiddling to prevent the arc from choosing the temp sensor over the pilot tubing as a landing zone.uxcell 10pcs Fiberglass Heat Shield Sleeve 5mm(3/16-inch) ID x 2.9ft...Amazon.com : onlyfire 14451 Universal Electric Silver Push Button Igniter...Amazon.com : Meter Star 2Pc 38" Ignitor Wire & Ceramic Electrode Assembly...The sparker itself is not a drop-in, requires some minor mods a DIYer can handle, but my 4-port fits where my previously installed 3-port was, so no issues there.Steve 3 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #20 – March 19, 2022, 11:44:05 am Nice work, Steve! If I still had that type of oven, I'd follow your example.
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #21 – March 19, 2022, 02:02:15 pm Update on Post I made in this Thread Earlier -"We installed the Furrion 2 in 1 range in our son's tiniHouse, it's basically the same size as the Atwood with three burners except it has an oven ignitor which works when you turn the wheel like on the Atwood. We were sold on that feature immediately."We spent our first weekend in our Son's tiniHouse in Portland last week. The Furrion range we had installed earlier worked well except for the ignitor feature for the oven. There is a dedicated electronic ignitor for the oven which sparks when you turn the dial for all of the ignitors for the three burners on top. I checked the oven ignitor and it did spark each time I turned the ignitor dial. The spark also looked to be the same as all of the other igniors. It took as few as ten to fifteen sparks to ignite the pilot light. I did this many times to test it out and the spark was across the pilot light so it should have worked every time. When the pilot light was on the oven worked fine. We were disappointed with this failure, and the range manual did not have any answers. I may call Furrion but we may find that the best way to light the oven is the old fashion way on This NEW Furrion Oven! Karen~Liam 98 ~ MB NinA
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #22 – March 19, 2022, 02:21:01 pm Quote from: Steve - March 19, 2022, 10:21:45 amWondered about an igniter in the oven with the higher operating temperature environment compared to a stovetop, but Andy's post convinced me to give it a try. Ordered a pigtailed igniter and some high-temp sleeving to cover the silicone insulated wire and kludged an installation at the oven pilot. I changed my electronic 3-port to a 4-port ignitor. It works nicely after a little fiddling to prevent the arc from choosing the temp sensor over the pilot tubing as a landing zone.Thanks, Steve, now my wife wants this added to the stovetop ignitor.Larry
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #23 – March 20, 2022, 02:04:48 pm Quote from: Larry W - March 19, 2022, 02:21:01 pmThanks, Steve, now my wife wants this added to the stovetop ignitor.LarryWhy, you're welcome, Larry!Steve
Re: New stove ignitor Reply #24 – March 20, 2022, 03:32:03 pm Steve, we like your work also! We need to fix the setup in the Furrion. When we are next in the tiniHouse I will try to adjust it so that it works like what Steve did in his LD. We will also look into upgrading our ignitor setup in our Atwood oven in our 98~MB. Thanks Steve! Karen~Liam 98 ~ MB NinA
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