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Re: Portable power station vs permanent solar install.
Reply #50
WOW ($ 4,299.00) that seems like a lot of money for portable power, just saying  ::)
Jerry Galang
Meridian, ID 83646

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Reply #51
I just saw that Jackery are making a 2000 wh capacity power station with a 2200W AC inverter, which they say can be charged in 3 hours with 4 x 200 watt portable solar panels they also make.  The power station is small and comparatively light, and the panels fold down to 21 x 24 inches, so they would fit in my storage compartments on the TK.  (I think)  It’s expensive, but portable, so if you change RV’s you can take it with you easily.  Does anyone have any opinion if this is game changer to an expensive solar install? The panels look really sturdy would appear to be hard to blow over.  I have hesitated to add solar to my roof as I have been told by the factory not to drill holes. ( I know everyone does and it is ok, so I might). The other benefit is that you would not have to park in the hot sun. Portable Power Station, Power Outdoors - Jackery.  I am not sure if you could just connect it to the shore power socket with an adaptor or not.
Merged with the Jackery generator thread.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB

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Reply #52
WOW ($ 4,299.00) that seems like a lot of money for portable power, just saying  ::)
Yes it is, but then I was quoted nearly $5000 by AM Solar for an install.  Two 170 solar panels and 1200 inverter.  That was in 2018. And it is difficult to take it with you.  The new 200 w solar panels are waterproof .
This technology is moving so rapidly, I may just wait till I retire and go full time in a couple of years.
AlphPup
 2001 TK “Dazi”

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Reply #53
I have frequently plugged my  Goal Zero(GZ) 1000 into the shore line receptable via a 30A to 120V cord. This gives me the option of using my 4 cup coffee maker and/or 700 watt microwave during the early morning hours when generator use is typically restricted and/or I just don't want to disturb mother nature and/or the neighbors. I think it is a nice option to have. Your Jackery would probably also work for similar or other purpose(s) when connected this way. Just don't exceed whatever the amp draw maximum is for your inverter. The one big inefficiency when connected in this way is that the power drawn from the generator does travel through the converter so there is some power loss in this process and I was surprised at how much. The power meter on my GZ shows a continuous 110 watt power draw when plugged into the shore line regardless of whether I have any of the previously mentioned appliances turned on. As a workaround,  I can either turn the inverter off on the generator or manually turn the main converter power switch off when I am finished.  I just like having a variety of flexible ways to generate and utilize energy. A moderate sized solar generator(1000-2000w)  with 200 or so watts of panels that can be placed strategically has been a  good investment for me. I should mention that the layout of a  2004 IB is efficient for the type of setup described i.e., the dinette and windows are in close proximity to the outside shore plug, the generator fits under the dinette with plenty of foot room to spare and is readily accessible to switch the inverter on/off, there is a 12 volt wall receptacle located on the outside wall under the dinette for charging, and the main control panel power switch is behind an easy to access panel on the front of sink cabinet which is directly across from the dinette.

Matt

2004 26.5 Island Bed. Gumby
2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon

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Reply #54
Our AM Solar install wasn’t cheap but then quality made in America gear never is. The system is neatly tucked away with power to spare and will last a decade at full reserve guaranteed and most likely decades to come.

Add the sizeable Federal Income Tax credits to the overall cost of the system and AM Solar’s stellar craftsmanship and systems knowledge and the overall costs of installation are a moot point.

You get what you pay for. For me it’s peace of mind, and a system I will never have to upgrade.

Feels just fine to me.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"

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Reply #55
Kent, you got an income tax credit on your RV solar install?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #56
Our AM Solar install wasn’t cheap but then quality made in America gear never is. The system is neatly tucked away with power to spare and will last a decade at full reserve guaranteed and most likely decades to come.

Add the sizeable Federal Income Tax credits to the overall cost of the system and AM Solar’s stellar craftsmanship and systems knowledge and the overall costs of installation are a moot point.

You get what you pay for. For me it’s peace of mind, and a system I will never have to upgrade.

Feels just fine to me.

Kent
I agree, thanks for the input.  My LD is 2001. Maybe if I buy a new one one day.
AlphPup
 2001 TK “Dazi”

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Reply #57
I have frequently plugged my  Goal Zero(GZ) 1000 into the shore line receptable via a 30A to 120V cord. This gives me the option of using my 4 cup coffee maker and/or 700 watt microwave during the early morning hours when generator use is typically restricted and/or I just don't want to disturb mother nature and/or the neighbors. I think it is a nice option to have. Your Jackery would probably also work for similar or other purpose(s) when connected this way. Just don't exceed whatever the amp draw maximum is for your inverter. The one big inefficiency when connected in this way is that the power drawn from the generator does travel through the converter so there is some power loss in this process and I was surprised at how much. The power meter on my GZ shows a continuous 110 watt power draw when plugged into the shore line regardless of whether I have any of the previously mentioned appliances turned on. As a workaround,  I can either turn the inverter off on the generator or manually turn the main converter power switch off when I am finished.  I just like having a variety of flexible ways to generate and utilize energy. A moderate sized solar generator(1000-2000w)  with 200 or so watts of panels that can be placed strategically has been a  good investment for me. I should mention that the layout of a  2004 IB is efficient for the type of setup described i.e., the dinette and windows are in close proximity to the outside shore plug, the generator fits under the dinette with plenty of foot room to spare and is readily accessible to switch the inverter on/off, there is a 12 volt wall receptacle located on the outside wall under the dinette for charging, and the main control panel power switch is behind an easy to access panel on the front of sink cabinet which is directly across from the dinette.

Matt


Great information, thank you!
AlphPup
 2001 TK “Dazi”

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Reply #58
Gotta say, $4300 seems rather steep for a coffee maker.  We typically get a month out of a tank of propane during our off-grid adventures. 

That's running the fridge, heating water for coffee, occasional use of Wave heater, etc, and the fill-up tends to be 8-9 gallons.  It's hard to beat propane for anything requiring heat, even with 640W of solar and lithium batteries.

Steve
2015 TK

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Reply #59
"Gotta say, $4300 seems rather steep for a coffee maker.  We typically get a month out of a tank of propane during our off grid adventures Steve"

But Steve TK, that kind of comment will reopen the "brewing coffee" discussion. 😀Some of the electrical engineer wannabes can engineer multi solar panel systems with inverters, battery chargers, sun tracker systems then purchase redundant back up systems and not know how to heat water to pour over a cone filter with ground coffee in it. Still, I do enjoy reading about their experiments.

Steve K.
Steve K

2003 Mid-bath

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Reply #60
I've always liked Jackery products, and I own a couple of their small (cell-phone-sized) USB powerpacks. Recently I bought a Jackery Explorer 240 power station, and it led to an unhappy customer support experience.

One of my criteria for choosing the 240 was that Jackery's spec sheet (see screenshot below) said it had a USB-C PD port capable of putting out 20 V at 3 A. This would let me charge my MacBook, among other things. I ordered the 240 through Walmart, who passed on the order to Jackery, who shipped the product.

When I got it, I found that it had two USB-A (5V, 2.4A) ports but no USB-C port. Jackery's advertised specs were wrong. Since Walmart was just the middleman in this "sold and shipped by Jackery" transaction, I called up Jackery and explained that because of their mistake, I had been mislead into buying a product that didn't do what was promised.

The support representative confirmed that the spec sheet was indeed mistaken. But after a long period on hold while she consulted with her supervisor and "the team," she told me that they couldn't do anything for me. She said I'd have to go back to Walmart, ask for a refund, and then order a different model. I pointed out that the mistake was Jackery's fault, not Walmart's, so shouldn't they take responsibility? Nope, Jackery refused.

I ended up ordering a Jackery 300 Plus, because it has what I want, including a USB-C PD port, and (mainly) it's on sale at $50 off through tomorrow, making it only a little more expensive than the 240. Perhaps I should have switched brands, but the 300 Plus fit my needs exactly, so...

As for this 240, I suppose I ought to return it to Walmart, although since I no longer have the packaging (shame on me), that will probably turn into a hassle.

If I were a manufacturer and promised something in my spec sheet that I wasn't going to deliver, I'd offer the customer a prompt refund at the very least, if not the opportunity to upgrade to a better model. It's unfortunate that Jackery doesn't care enough to do either.

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Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #61
By the way, I learned while researching this that manufacturers of these power stations/"solar generators" are in the process of switching from lithium ion to LiFePO4 battery technology.

Most Jackery models, for example--including the Explorer 240 that I initially bought, and its big brother the Explorer 300--use lithium ion batteries. But newer models such as the 300 Plus that I ordered to replace it use LiFePO4 batteries. These have several advantages: faster charging (2 hours on 120 VAC vs. 5.5 hours for the Explorer 240), much longer lifespans (4,000 full charge cycles, vs. 500 for the Explorer 240)... and a much-reduced risk of fire.

In short, when shopping for a power station, it's worth paying close attention to the battery type, and looking for LiFePO4. On the other hand, if you're on a tight budget, you may be able to find a bargain as the older-tech lithium ion types are being discontinued. Just be sure you know what you're getting.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #62
Hi Andy. I’m not very versed in USB technology but are these the ports you are referring to?
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #63
As for this 240, I suppose I ought to return it to Walmart, although since I no longer have the packaging (shame on me), that will probably turn into a hassle.
I suggest you return it to Walmart. Since you bought it from them - not Jackery - and it doesn't perform as promised, they should (very likely will, I think) accept the return "as is". It's up to them to deal with Jackery according to their mutual agreements. Don't try to guess about the Walmart/Jackery relationship. They are both big boys and know this sort of thing (and worse) will happen.
2005 Jayco 24SS

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Reply #64
Well, yes, your Yeti 3000 has both types. Here's the difference (and I'm only going to talk about power here, not data):

USB-A: the original USB port, USB-A is rectangular, and plugs can only fit in one orientation. Electrically, USB-A can deliver a maximum of about 2.5 amps, and only at 5 volts. As a power source, a USB-A port is suitable for charging small devices such as phones and tablets.

USB-C: a more recent development, USB-C is oval, and plugs can fit either way. Electrically, there are several varieties of USB-C, but the one found on better power stations is designated "PD" (for "Power Delivery") and can deliver up to 20 volts, as well as lower voltages for phones and tablets. Thus, USB-C PD ports can be used to charge many laptop computers, which typically require 16-18 V, as well as the usual phones and tablets.

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Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #65
"I suggest you return it to Walmart."

That would be good advice, Eric, except for the fact that I threw away the packaging a week ago. Living in a 19' trailer, I don't have room for empty cartons, so I tend to ditch them just as soon as I know the contents are working properly. I think Walmart would hassle me over a return "not in original packaging," and having already wasted a morning arguing with Jackery, I don't feel like going up against Walmart.

Incidentally, another lesson I learned from this experience is not to buy from Walmart when they are merely acting as a conduit for a third-party seller. If I'd researched just a bit, I'd've seen that the Jackery 240 was available from Amazon for about the same price. And experience tells me that Amazon--even when acting as a conduit for a third party--will back me up if I have a problem.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #66
When I bought a portable 120V power supply my research led me to the Bluetti LiFePO4 products, mainly because they said (in their documentation) that the model I wanted (EB70) could be discharged and charged at the same time. I hooked it up that way, and it worked as documented.

Re: Andy's tale of woe with Walmart (and Jackery), I learned a while back to order some items directly from the manufacturer. I usually do this on high-cost or more-complicated items. That way the manufacturer has a record of your purchase, and they are less inclined to hassle you on returns or warranty issues. Sometimes you pay only a bit more for the piece of mind. As for "original packaging," I have an attic full of it that I have to muck out now and then- a luxury that Andy doesn't have!

Mark H.
Former owner, 31-foot gas Class A
Former owner, 1997-8 mid-bath

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Reply #67
Re: Andy's tale of woe with Walmart (and Jackery), I learned a while back to order some items directly from the manufacturer. I usually do this on high-cost or more-complicated items. .... As for "original packaging,"...
Mark H.
If it's large, I tend to buy from a place that offers easy returns without insisting on original packing. Recently, that was a lawnmower  from Costco, and a snow blower from Walmart. Amazon is also very good: usually, all I need to do is take the item to UPS, no packaging at all.
2005 Jayco 24SS

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Reply #68
I think if you bring in the item without packaging, you will get in store credit at Walmart.   I am not 100% sure but worth a try. If you bring in the receipt they may refund your money.
AlphPup
 2001 TK “Dazi”

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Reply #69
All this talk and just now found this thread.
I use a lion energy safari-me xp. I added a transfer switch and plug. This way I can plug in the solar generator and power the 120v side of rv. I added 490w panel to roof on an exo frame. I can add 1 more panel if I want. This allows us to charge solar generator in rv.
I have several solar generators from small to 1200w besides the lion energy.
My next addition might be another fixed mppt controller and 24v 200ah lipo4 battery. By doing this I can use the safari me xp in conjunction with added battery. In theory I can run the ac about 6hrs with not counting the charge from panel.
1992 Mid Bath