Not now, but eventually. May 02, 2018, 03:44:26 pm Winnebago launches an all-electric RV platform – but it can’t be used as an... 1 Likes
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #2 – May 02, 2018, 07:14:58 pm What I find more interesting in this article is the mention of Ford’s Electric Qualified Vehicle Modifier (eQVM) program. From this link you'll see that three companies have been approved by Ford earlier this year to implement a hybrid electric drive system, an electric powertrain, and a non-electric hydraulic hybrid energy recovery system for the E-450 chassis.With these continued development efforts maybe the E-450 platform will live longer than Ford had earlier forecasted. But I sure wouldn't buy an RV with these new systems if they are not able to greatly improve their range from "an expected range of 85 to 125 miles on a full charge" for the electric one Winnebago has developed.Charles 4 Likes
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #3 – May 03, 2018, 11:44:55 am "I sure wouldn't buy an RV with these new systems if they are not able to greatly improve their range from "an expected range of 85 to 125 miles on a full charge" "---Precisely the reason for my "Meh" comment.
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #4 – May 03, 2018, 11:58:24 am Quote from: JCT - May 03, 2018, 11:44:55 am"I sure wouldn't buy an RV with these new systems if they are not able to greatly improve their range from "an expected range of 85 to 125 miles on a full charge" "---Precisely the reason for my "Meh" comment. Exactly as stated by Winnebago“It’s why Winnebago says that the vehicle is best suited “for urban and semi-urban short range commercial applications like mobile medical clinics, bloodmobiles, mobile classrooms and mobile outreach vehicles.”Give it time and $5/gallon gas.
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #5 – May 03, 2018, 12:10:15 pm However, the Ford program that Charles mentions has real possibilities. It states that they are looking at a hybrid system which would really improve gas mileage and extend the life of the E-450 chassis. Here's hoping! 1 Likes
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #6 – May 03, 2018, 12:50:49 pm Quote from: Ed 111 - May 03, 2018, 11:58:24 amExactly as stated by Winnebago“It’s why Winnebago says that the vehicle is best suited “for urban and semi-urban short range commercial applications like mobile medical clinics, bloodmobiles, mobile classrooms and mobile outreach vehicles.”Give it time and $5/gallon gas.It will be a very long time before recharging facilities are available throughout the many thousands miles of back roads in the West, probably never happen in many areas.It will also be a while before the green electrical generating capability exist to charge millions of car and truck batteries.If it isn't green power, it isn't worth the effort, nor will it help with green-house gases.Winnebago's all-electric RV will be limited to metro areas and major highways for a very long time, longer than I plan to RV.As an experience electric vehicle driver range anxiety is a real concern, when still employed my last two official work vehicles were an electrical Ford Ranger and then a fuel-cell Mercedes . Cars need at least a 200+mile range, for daily driving, but an RV would need several times this to venture into unpopuated areas. An RV could have a large generator to recharge the motive batteries out in the boonies, whoops!, there goes the environmental benefits, plus having to carry the weight of the generator and fuel. Hybrid RVs are a more logical possibility, if battery weight can be seriously reduced.Most of our RVs will be petrol-powered for a long time unless someones finds an inexpensive substance, like dilithium crystals, with an extremely high power density .Larry 2 Likes
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #7 – May 03, 2018, 01:26:27 pm Quote from: Larry W - May 03, 2018, 12:50:49 pmMost of our RVs will be petrol-powered for a long time unless someones finds an inexpensive substance, like dilithium crystals, with an extremely high power density .Ion propulsion?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tba5X0UjXvg 1 Likes
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #8 – May 03, 2018, 01:35:02 pm The truly significant break through will be observed with the green electric orbital launch vehicle.
Re: Not now, but eventually. Reply #9 – May 03, 2018, 10:08:08 pm "It's why Winnebago says that the vehicle is best suited "for urban and semi-urban short range commercial applications like mobile medical clinics, bloodmobiles, mobile classrooms and mobile outreach vehicles." Our local blood mobile drives a pollution belching diesel bus that then fires up a huge generator to provide power to the equipment when in use. Battery power would be a huge environmental improvement. Then they would not have to keep the bus tightly sealed to avoid killing their donors with CO poisoning. 😱Note Winnebago specifically did not say this was an RV product. Winnebago already owns a major portion on that market. Winnebago is preparing their future and productive facilities for the inevitable slowdown in RV sales. Increasing interest rates , a weakening stock market and higher gas prices will take their toll.A smart move on their part.