The moment of truth August 28, 2016, 11:50:08 am Fully loaded for our trip (no holds barred), we headed down to the catscale in Lakeville early this morning to weigh in. Was thrilled to come in at 13,060 (GVWR 14,050). That is a big relief. Made appropriate adjustments to tire pressure (F 55-60, R 70) standard Michelin RV tires. Thanks to Dave and Sandy of Lakeville who spotted us at Cracker Barrel and stopped by to introduce themselves. 3 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #1 – August 28, 2016, 11:52:18 am What I could do with that payload! Bon Route!! 1 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #2 – August 28, 2016, 08:30:15 pm Happy Trails, have a great time, & share as you're able. 1 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #3 – August 30, 2016, 11:09:51 am After weighing in 1,000 lbs below max GVWR, my first thought was " what else can I bring?". 1 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #4 – August 30, 2016, 12:24:30 pm Todd,After I weighed out with RV Weigh. I was under weight about a 1000 pounds on the front end and a bit more than 900 pounds on the rear.I always maintain a check list on my phone to determine "all's aboard" and what I think I could use in the future. Here is my checklist. It looks like a ton of stuff but it slides right into place.[[Oh yeah...my coffee maker is a Mellita type so I carry the tea pot to boil water.]]🚵🚵 LAZY DAZE SUPPLIES🚵🚵 2016=packed =IN LD =need 🔷=still need to do/don't forget this.😜=not this time 👀RESERVATION👀🔷💡Print Out Of Campground Res. [With LD books and Manual]🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫. TURN OFF FRIDGE/PROPANE BEFORE TRAVELING🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫🚫 👀COACH GEAR👀 👍👍💡Carbon Water Filter 👍👍💡Carbon Water Filter Spares 👍👍 💡Surge Protector 👍👍💡Pressure Regulator 💡Bear Spray (3 cans) 👍👍💡rubber Mallet for wheel covers 👍👍💡Valve Stem Extenders 👍👍💡Tire Minder TM66 👍👍💡TM66 Booster (8 AA Pack) 👍👍💡Pledge For Toilet Bowl Seal 👍👍💡Cleaning Wand For Black Tank 👍👍💡Bubble Levels For LD Levelness (one bubble/one small carpenters level) 👍👍💡Locking Cable For Outside Surge Protector (on S/Protector) 👍👍💡Water Hose to flush Black Tank👍👍💡Black Tank Enzymes👍👍💡Gray Tank Deodorizer 👀KITCHEN WEAR👀 👍👍💡Knifes & Forks 👍👍💡Spatulas 👍👍💡Plates 👍👍💡Paper Plates 👍👍💡Bowls 👍👍💡Skillets 👍👍💡Sauce/Soup Pans 👍👍💡Dish Soap 👍👍💡Sponges 👍👍💡Scrub Brush 👍👍💡 Tea Pot/Whistling 👍👍💡Plastic Wrap 👍👍💡Aluminum Foil 👍👍💡Parchment Paper 👀BAR-B-QUE👀 👍👍💡Eco-Que 👍👍💡Pizo Lighter 👍👍💡Coalman Fold-N-Go 👍👍💡Charcoal 👍👍 💡Charcoal Lighter Fluid 👍👍💡Fire Starters (Above Stove) 👍👍💡Tongs 👍👍 💡Spatula 👀OUTDOOR LIVING👀 👍👍💡PlasticFolding Side Tables 👍👍💡Table Cloth 👍👍💡Fire Logs (Bernies) 👍👍💡Fire Log Ring 👍👍💡Fire Wood CELL PHONE👍👍Cell Phone 👍👍💡Home Cell Charger🐼👍👍Cell Car Charg. w/ cbl🚙👇👍👍Cell Phone Case. 👍👍Ear Buds for Phone☔️👍👍💡Cell Signal Booster LLBean LAP TOP BAG 👔 😜👍Lap Top 😜👍💡Lap Top Charger TOWELS 🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊🏊👍👍💡Bath Towels (4)👍👍💡WashTowels (4)👍👍💡Wash Cloths (4) CLOTHING INDOOR LIVING👀 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 👍👍Pillows (Bed) 👍👍💡Pillows (Couches) 👍👍💡Comforters 👍👍💡Blankets (four fleece) 💡12volt Mattress Heaters (2) 👍👍 💡DVD's 👍👍💡DVD/Blu-Ray Player 👀SNACKS👀 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪👍👍💡Cheetos, Freetos, etc👍👍💡Corn/Potato Snacks ASSORTED DAILY ITEMS ☀☀️️☀️️☀️️☀️️☀️️☀️️👍👍Extension cord ☀️️👇⬇️️👍👍💡Power Strip☀️️👇⬇️️👍👍Heating pad☀️️👇⬇️️👍👍Alarm Clock☀👉⬇👍👍💡The Drip Coffee Maker👍👍LED Flashlight (in work bag)👍👍Batteries (AA)👍👍Batteries (AAA)👍👍💡D Batteries👍👍💡9 Volt Batt (smoke/CO2)👍👍💡1stAid Kit[Blue]☀👉⬇👍👍💡1st Aide Tape☀️️👉⬇️️👍👍💡Tylenol ☀⬇👍👍💡Twine☀⬇👍👍💡Cord (twine)☀️️👉⬇️️👍👍💡Road Maps☀👇⬇️️👍👍💡Work Gloves☀👇⬇️️👍👍💡Bar Soap ☀👉⬇👍👍Ear plugs ☀👉⬇👍👍💡Rubber bands 🐸☀👉⬇👍👍💡Paper Cups 🐸☀👉⬇👍👍💡Sewing Kits(2) 😻👍👍💡Tooth Picks🐼👍👍💡Baby Wipes🐼👍👍 💡Steel Screws 🐼👍👍💡Kleenex 👍👍💡Electric Razor 👍👍💡Playing Card👍👍💡Strap👍👍💡Umbrellas (3)👍👍💡Glade Air Freshener👍👍💡Zip Lock Bags ✨DIDDY BAG✨ 🐥🐥🐥🐥 (In☀️️)👍👍Ear plugs (water)👍👍💡Zip Ties🐥👇⬇️️👍👍💡Deodorant👍👍💡Scissors. ✌️️👇⬇️️ 👍👍💡Plastic Spoon 👍👍💡Q-Tips👍👍💡Floss👍👍💡Tooth brush👍👍💡Toothpaste👍👍💡Needle Nose Pliers 🐥👇⬇️️ 👍👍💡Comb (2)💡👇⬇️️👍👍💡Thread Roll-Black 👍👍💡Sharpie-Thin🐥👇⬇️️👍👍💡Bottle Opener🐥👇⬇️️👍👍💡Tweezer Set👍👍💡Electrical Tape👍👍💡Antibiotic Ointment 🐥👇⬇️️👍👍💡Shampoo👍👍💡Shaving Cream👍👍💡Tylenol👍👍💡Paper Cups👍👍💡Kleenex👍👍💡Bike Strap For Pants Cuff👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀 💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃👍👍💡 Coffee👍👍💡Yellow Dish Rags (4)👍👍 🎯🎯👀CAMERA GEAR👀🎯🎯 BEVERAGES 🎓🎓🎓🎓 👍👍Ice Chest (Soft/Folding) 👍👍💡Half-N-Half 👍👍💡Arrowhead water 🔷💡Beer (Coors, Root Beer) 👍👍💡Pepsi & Mt Dew 👀BBQ STUFF👀👍👍💡Eco-Que👍👍💡Camp Chef👍👍💡Propane Canisters👍👍💡Charcoal👍👍💡Mesquite👍👍💡Eco-Que liners👍👍💡Tongs Etc...👍👍💡Bernie (2)👍👍💡BBQ Bernie Ring 👀CHAIRS👀 👍👍💡Portable Chairs (2) 👍👍💡Hammock Stand 👍👍💡Hammock 👀👀In TRUCK👀👀 🚙🚙🚙🚙🚙 👍👍💡Jackets (2)👍 👍RAY BAN SUN GLASSES 👍👍💡New Glasses👍 👍 Jumper Cables 👍👍💡California Duster BIKE GEAR👀 🚲🚲🚲🚲👍👍💡Bike Rack👍👍Kent's 10 Speed👍👍💡Cindy's/Robin's Bike w/extension bar👍👍Helmet 👍👍Valve Stem Tool🚵👍👍Pressure Gauge (2)🚵👍👍Pump-Hand👍👍Spoke Tool🚵👍 👍Lock & Cables (3sets)👍👍Small Cres Wrenchs 🚵👍👍💡New inner tubes for BOTH bikes👍👍💡SMALL BLACK POUCH [🚵] (Bike Tools in CJ's bike bag)👍👍💡Patch Kit (2) 👍👍💡Large Rubber Straps (4) 👍👍 👀👀Road Tools👀👀 👍👍💡Work Bag👍👍💡Small Hammer (in wrk bag)👍👍💡Large Vise Grips👍👍💡Electric Drill 👍👍💡 Drill Bits (3sets w/Millw set)👍👍💡Jumper Cables👍👍💡Air Compressor L1👍👍💡12volt Air Compressor L1👍👍💡Windex L1👍👍💡Paper Towels🌲👍👍💡Small Wisk Broom Set🐼👍👍💡Tire Gauge 👍👍💡Leather Work Gloves 👍👍💡Road Reflectors. 👍👍👍👍💡Tire Thumper👍👍💡Fire Extinguisher 👍👍💡Fire Extinguisher -2 Halotron👍👍💡Fire Exting.. -5 Foam 16 Oz.👍👍💡Engine Oil (3 Qt. Synthetic) 👍👍💡Generator Oil 30wt👍👍💡Transmission Fluid👍👍💡Brake Fluid👍👍💡Power Steering Fluid 👍👍💡Antifreeze 👍👍💡Tire Plug Kit (Flat Tire)👍👍💡Instant Flat Fix 3 lg cans 👀👀BEFORE YOU GO👀👀 (24 hours before leaving) 👍👍 💡Weigh LDaze 👍👍💡Fuel Up 👍👍💡Fill Tires 👍👍💡Set-Up Black Water Tank 👍👍💡Pre-Chill Refrigerator 👍👍💡Change/Check Oil 👍 👍💡CD's For LD 👍👍💡Pad Microwave Turntable😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱👀What Could You Have Taken👀👍👍💡3-in-One Oil (in wrk bag) 👍👍💡Sm dish brush 🐼 👍👍💡Sm bottle of dish soap.🐼👍👍💡Duct Tape👍👍💡FIRE EXTINGUISHERS (2 Halotron 2.5 lb units)👍👍💡FIRE EXTINGUISHERS (5Foam)👍👍💡Baking Soda (store above stove)👍👍💡Extra Fresh Cab Mouse Repellant👍👍💡Cell Phone Signal Booster💡300 Watt Pure Sine Wave Convertor 👍👍💡Black Tank H2OHose (No Kink)💡Wave 6 Propane Heater (Pro Install)💡Flo-Jet Macerator👍👍💡Emergency Whistles (6)👍👍💡Toothbrush-Used for drains💡Impact Drill/Hammer for tire change?👍👍💡Funnels for OIL & WIPERS👍👍💡Extra Chair For Barb🔷🔷💡Road Flairs (6)👍👍💡NEW BLACK TANK WAND (2)👍👍💡Leveling Blocks Bi-Level (3)👍👍💡Check outside bays locked👍👍💡Funnels (2) For Oil & Window👍👍💡Poop Bags (4rolls)👍👍💡Windshield Visor Truck Size👍👍💡Black Tank Enzymes 💡Tire Covers (4)💡Scan Gauge For Transmission 💡Feather Duster For Dash 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 ✨✨✨✨✨🐼Kitchen Drawer/Cabinet 🌲Sm Cupboard Under Fridge😻Small Cupboard Box ✨✨✨✨✨✨I have deleted some of the personal items like clothing details (TMI right?).Hope this helps.Oh yeah, don't forget to take along your adventurist spirit. Enjoy yourselves.Kent 7 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #5 – August 30, 2016, 12:40:03 pm Kent, with 1,000 lbs. spare capacity, I would be loading a lot more snacks! 3 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #6 – August 30, 2016, 02:04:57 pm Kent.. why Turn Off Refrig & Propane before traveling???
Re: The moment of truth Reply #7 – August 30, 2016, 02:40:09 pm Jo,It is recommended by the Fire Guy. The propane tanks fuel lines run the risk of rupture in the event of a collision. If this should occur YOU run the risk of loosening your rig or worse in the event the propane ignites.I once asked Todd at LD if traveling with the fridge running was ok. He said it was fine to do so. However, when I became interested in obtaining a better fire suppression system (Halotron & Foam Extingiushers) I learned of the dangers as I mentioned above.I seldom travel more than a few hours so I don't risk the fridge getting warm inside. Plus if you like cold beverages on the road a folding ice chest will fill in nicely to keep drinks cold.RV fridges remain COLD for 6 to 8 hours if you leave them closed while traveling and don't open them for an hour or two before hitting the road. On my last trip to Big Bear, the drive was a little more than 3 hours. Got there fired up the fridge and had a nice "frozen" bowl of ice cream right afterward.I suppose it all depends on your risk aversion. I'm fine with taking the extra step to protect my LD and family. There are plenty of RV related fires and I really don't want to be another statistic.What's the over used adage? "Better safe than sorry".Kent 1 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #8 – August 30, 2016, 03:13:20 pm For what it's worth...I have had my L.D. for twelve years and other RVs prior to that.With the exception of having to defrost the freezer my fridge has never been off, including while taking on fresh fuel or propane!YMMV! 3 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #9 – August 30, 2016, 03:31:03 pm "With the exception of having to defrost the freezer my fridge has never been off, including while taking on fresh fuel or propane!"----I'm surprised that a propane dealer would refill the tank when the refrigerator was on! The propane supply place I use here (and every propane dealer that I've ever used) insists that any LPG appliances are OFF when filling. Personally, I would never chance a potential explosion or fire by gassing up or getting a fill with the refrigerator (or other) flame going, but, each person is willing to accept different levels of risk. 5 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #10 – August 30, 2016, 09:58:07 pm Whenever I get propane I simply turn the propane supply off at the tank. Now nothing with propane can be running.Ed 2 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #11 – August 30, 2016, 11:05:16 pm Quote from: Ed D. - August 30, 2016, 09:58:07 pmWhenever I get propane I simply turn the propane supply off at the tank. Now nothing with propane can be running.EdI believe that's what Lazy Bones does. Therefore he never turns off the fridge/freezer. 1 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #12 – August 31, 2016, 08:27:57 am I've never seen a guy working on the propane tank not try and turn the knob to ensure the propane is off before he fills the tank.Yes, I get out of the rig and stand over their shoulder peering intently at them. Nobody handles my baby without supervision!!! 2 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #13 – August 31, 2016, 09:57:56 am Don't forget that sparking when propane appliances try to light- with or without gas supply.
Re: The moment of truth Reply #14 – August 31, 2016, 03:21:24 pm I want to reinforce what Paul just said: turning off propane at the tank should always be done when filling, but it is not enough. Any appliance with spark ignition--your fridge, water heater or furnace--can start sparking without warning, and with stray propane drifting around during the filling process, that could lead to an explosion. Any propane vendor who knows his or her job will ask you before hooking up whether all appliances are off, but even if they don't, it's up to you to do it. 7 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #15 – August 31, 2016, 03:58:10 pm As others have stated, propane related fires and explosions in RV's can happen if not careful in your practices. And don't forget about the deadly killer, carbon monoxide! Here is an article with some examples and good safety tips:Carbon Monoxide and propane issues spike in spring for RVers 2 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #16 – August 31, 2016, 06:24:33 pm Many states require that you to do what Andy said, plus having everyone outside.It's interesting to me that more than a few will not drive with the refer running. I guess that's the other end of the extreme on safety.A guy in AZ, told me their state law makes them potentially liable for any propane problems until you get home. I have not researched the law to see if that's true.
Re: The moment of truth Reply #17 – August 31, 2016, 06:37:40 pm I marveled? at your packing list Kent. Many of those items we would not think of packing. Heck, we don't even own them. On the other side I will bet that we carry items that you and most of the world would not carry. How about a pressure cooker? Had a tasty pot roast last night with potatoes and carrots. How about a torque wrench? Only used it once. It lives on top of the spare tire with never used jumper cables. Not much else would fit in that spaceWe do unpack, food, spices, most clothing, most tools, electronics, our bag of batteries, that sort of stuff. 30 minutes max. The bedding comes for washing and goes right back in.We find it easier to have duplicates than lists. Of course, our home pressure cooker is twice the size. Grin
Re: The moment of truth Reply #18 – August 31, 2016, 07:36:32 pm Don, Say what ? My torque wrench isn't on my list. Maybe I better get back to checkin' but I know it's there.Most items remain checked off the list. Only a few come and go. Consumables mostly. One tool bag goes back to work with me. Bikes come and go too (easy pickins, ya know?) Spices stay on board.I love the idea of a small pressure cooker, but seldom have power hook ups to run one. Unless of course it's a stove top unit (didn't think about that).The old saying rings home with me-"Never leave home without it". Not that I carried all this stuff with me in my backpack days, but "the list" sure made things easier back then and today.Oh well, gotta do the wash and put it back in the rig.Happy campin'Kent
Re: The moment of truth Reply #19 – August 31, 2016, 08:09:20 pm G Plam,Agreed. Propane tanks are inherently strong and durable. The question isnt wether or not the tank will explode. The question is what happens to the unimpeded propane from a ruptured "house line" in the event of an accident. As Andy and others have said, the ignighter on our RV appliances can cause serious problems in the event of a propane leak. It's a simple task, for me, to take the precautionary steps to safeguard not only myself but others around me. What are the odds something will go wrong if I don't take these simple steps? I will never know.Hey, we aren't here to tell one another how to live or travel. We are here to provide information. That's it. Simple and pure. My DW enjoys learning the hard way. I prefer to listen to the sage advice of others.Just sayin' Safe travels.Kent 2 Likes
Re: The moment of truth Reply #20 – September 01, 2016, 07:02:16 pm Quote from: Don Malpas - August 31, 2016, 06:24:33 pmMany states require that you to do what Andy said, plus having everyone outside.It's interesting to me that more than a few will not drive with the refer running. I guess that's the other end of the extreme on safety.A guy in AZ, told me their state law makes them potentially liable for any propane problems until you get home. I have not researched the law to see if that's true.Don,Here is a link to an article that outlines RV laws across the country-State by State.http://www.woodalls.com/articledetails.aspx?articleID=2377513#CAInteresting read, actually. The laws referred to in the outline are from 2010 so I'm not sure how current the information is.Kent 2 Likes
Topic: The moment of truth (Read 545 times)
previous topic - next topic
Topic: The moment of truth (Read 545 times)
previous topic - next topic