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Finding a Topic
Yahoo Message Number: 148007
I  think that there was a recent thread on the Nexus Motorhome.  I didn't pay attention to it.  Now I'm camping with someone who has a 29 foot one with three slides.  It looks beautiful.  I find it hard to believe that she can carry all that weight and she tows.  Anyway, I wanted to find that thread but don't know how.  It used to be so easy to go to the archives.  How do I find that thread?  Thank you in advance for any help.

Monica
Monica
2017 MB
Re: Finding a Topic
Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148008
"It used to be so easy to go to the archives.  How do I find that thread?"
 Go to the group's Yahoo website. Open any message. Type 'nexus' into the "Search Conversations" text entry box near the top of the page. Hit return. And there you are! :-)

Andy Baird

Travels with Andy
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Finding a Topic
Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148009
Monica:  Did you notice what chasis the Nexus motor home was on?

Bob
Kathy and Bob on the Go
Re: Finding a Topic
Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148022
"Did you notice what chasis the Nexus motor home was on? "
 Bob, yes, it is a 2013 Ford E-450.  The Nexus is a Viper model.  It has three slides, levelers, and the owner tows a car.  She carries an extra propane tank in the back and tows a car and a has a bicycle and lots of other stuff.  I would think that it would be overweight but the owner assured me that she had it weighed and she is within the ccc limit.

Monica
Monica
2017 MB
Was: Finding a Topic, Now: Nexus Viper
Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148023
"I would think that it would be overweight but the owner assured me that she had it weighed and she is within the ccc limit." --- The Viper is classified by Nexus as a "B+"; maybe because it doesn't have an overcab bed? At any rate, I also find it difficult to believe how a 29' rig with three slides, levelers, and loaded with supplies, fluids, equipment, and passenger(s) would NOT be over the 14500 pound gwvr. ("CCC" is cargo carrying capacity, aka "NCC", net carrying capacity, i.e., the difference between the figure a manufacturer uses as the "base weight" of a rig and the total amount of weight the chassis is designed to carry, i.e., Gross Vehicle Weight Rating).
 Manufacturers jigger the numbers as to how they calculate what's included in the "base weight"; I  haven't seen any "real life", loaded-for-the-road, four corner weights figures on any of the Nexus models. Maybe Doug Baker will report on the actual, down-the-road weight of his "nominal 28' " Nexus with no slides for a comparison.

I'm skeptical of the "within the 14500# weight limit" claim.

As ever, YMMV.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Finding a Topic
Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148024
Wow!  I'm with you.  We have an LD, 2006 IB AE, tow (Ford Escape Hybrid), carry two light weight kayaks, two fold up bikes, hiking gear, BBQ grill, two chairs, two fold up small tables, and our clothing, at the weigh station we are right at the limit.  Unless Nexus is doing some heavy duty structure hardening (doubtful), I would be very skeptical on the weight.

Just my thoughts.

Bob. SE 5
Kathy and Bob on the Go
Re: Was: Finding a Topic, Now: Nexus Viper
Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148025
Lots of people make weight claims for their RVs without ever having actually weighed them. They'll take the published CCC (which is overly optimistic) and then "guesstimate" how much weight they've loaded into it (which is more likely than not an underestimated weight).
Did the person in question actually put their RV on a scale and get at least axle weights if not 4-corner weights? Perhaps. But I share Joan's skepticism that the RV being discussed is actually under its GVWR.

Linda Hylton
Linda Hylton
Re: Finding a Topic
Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148030
The lady's Nexus Viper is probably a Viper 29V and I suspect that it has never been weighed and that the owner has it grossly overloaded.  Towing with a tow bar adds only the weight of the tow bar itself, which is in the 30 to 40 lb range.
 I have a Nexus Phantom 28P Class C with no slides, levelers or other additions that add significant weight.  It differs from the Viper in that I have a cabover bed where the Viper has an entertainment center.  Also the Viper is a bit more "upscale" than the Phantom.

My coach is 29-ft 7-inches long and is very similar to the LD 31 ft models.  Mine weighs less as the steel Nexus frame weighs less than the wooden LD frame.

Nexus specifies the cargo capacity of a coach per the RVIA standards which are the Federal standards 409cfr571 - std 120.  They take the GVWR for the vehicle and subtract the vehicle's "empty weight" to get the "cargo carrying capacity".  (The empty weight is the vehicle weight with a full gas tank but no fresh water, no propane, no passengers, and empty holding tanks.)  Nexus actually  weighs each coach when it is complete so it includes all options, etc.
The cargo carrying capacity is posted on a yellow label that goes on the passenger side door post.  The label is as follows:

MOTOR HOME OCCUPANT AND CARGO CARRYING CAPACITY Vin: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx THE COMBINED WEIGHT OF OCCUPANTS AND CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED: xxx kg. or xxxxx lbs.
Safety belt equipped seating capacity: xx

CAUTION A full load of water equals xxx kg. or xxxxx lbs. of cargo @ 1.kg/L (8.3lbs /gal)   and the tongue weight of a towed trailer counts as cargo.

The last time I looked LD was doing it in a slightly different manner.

The "empty weight" of my coach is 11,815 which makes the maximum cargo capacity 2685 lbs

I have "four wheel" weighed my coach twice;  once in the "empty state" and once when "loaded for the road" which was with full gas tank, full propane tank, 20 gal fresh water, empty holding tanks, tow bar mounted, and no passengers.  The loaded weights were as follows: Left front:  1820,   Left rear: 4800,  Right front:  1600,  Right rear:  4560 Total:  12,780,  Rear axle:  9360,  Front axle:  3420 Even with 300 lbs of passengers, I am well within the specs of the E-450 Chassis.  The coach is a bit "left side heavy" as the genset, batteries, propane and fresh water are all on that side.  IMHO the coach is a bit "tail heavy."  I would really like about 400 lbs shifted from the rear axle to the front axle.

I communicate regularly with a fellow that has a Nexus Viper 29V with 3 slides, etc.  These are the "loaded" weights that he reports: Left front:  1800,  Left rear: 4860,  Right front:  2460,  Right rear:  5340 Total:  14460,  Rear axle:  10,200,  Front axle:  4260 The actual cargo that he has on board is less than what I have in my coach.  His coach is "right side" heavy as the genset, batteries and propane are on the right side of the coach.  His rear axle is overloaded but Ford told him it was not a problem.  He has replaced the Ford OEM tires with load range G tires but on the OEM rims.

The suspension on all Nexus coaches is "stock Ford."  They do nothing to enhance the suspension.  Almost all of their coaches have stretched Ford frames.

Doug
Re: Finding a Topic
Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 148033
"He has replaced the Ford OEM tires with load range G tires but on the OEM rims." ---- Eh? G load range tires on stock 16" wheels? AFAIK, there's no such tire, at least in the stock *LT225/75R/16* size; did he put LT235/70R/16s on the rims? Or, is he using "trailer tires"?

Joan
2003 TK has a new home