Lazy Daze Owners' Group

Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

May 02, 2013, 05:02:10 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 138853

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I just installed a tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) the with a lot of help from the folks here.  After reading the threads here and on other forums I chose the Doran 360rv.  For now I am using the dash plug.  I will unplug it when the RV is stored for a long time but for now I will let it run a few days.  The solar should keep up with the drain on the batteries.
I did have some trouble installing the system.  The problem was not with the product it was the metal valve extenders on the RV for the outside rear wheels.  They were not long enough.  I've installed the Tireman valve stems that I purchased last September (I had one extender leak  so I purchased the Tireman stems for the next wheel/tire issue).  Doran recommends using a produce like the Tireman or Borg valve but does not mention either product by name.
I like the green light.  I like the instant on (when hard wired or plugged in).  It will warn of low  pressure but only as it cycles through the wheels.  So they state that it is not a devise that will warn about an emanate blowout.  There is one warning for a slow leak (6% pressure loss as I recall) and different warning for a fast leak (I think 12% loss).  It will also alarm at start if your tires are below the pressure that it expects.  It not give you a green light if you program 6 wheels and then use only four transmitters because two were left off when they could not get past the hubcap.
Until I could get the RV to the tire shop I drove with the four transmitters on a short trip and eventually figured out that I needed to delete the two others to get the green light. Most people would not have to tinker with the system as much as I have but I got to know the Doran well by doing so.

I am very happy with the product.
John

Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

Reply #2 – January 21, 2014, 03:53:27 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 144664

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After reading that Andy was going with the Pressure Pro, my decision was made.  Andy researches to the nth and he has not led me wrong yet!

Bob in FL  SE 5

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:38 PM, "cindybeck123@..."  wrote:

Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

Reply #4 – January 21, 2014, 06:34:33 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 144672

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You might want to go to the Techsnoz site - https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Techsnoz/conversations/messages   (subscribe if you don't already belong) and look at Article55.pdf in the 'Files' section; it details Terry's installation of the 'Tire Traker' TPMS.

Joan

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Reply #6 – January 22, 2014, 12:14:26 am

Yahoo Message Number: 144678

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I have a Tire Trakker, 10 sensors and a remote "booster."  I used it with my 2005 MB and Jeep Cherokee for nearly 4  years.  The booster unit was not required and has never been out of the box and the system worked fine, when it worked at all.  I bought my Tire Trakker because of the replaceable sensor batteries and because Terry Tanner had one and it was doing well.  However, my experience with Tire Trakker has not been the same as Terry's:
 >> The first receiver lasted about 1 year before it failed.  It was replaced under warranty.
 >> The second receiver lasted about 15 months.  It too was replaced under warranty.  While getting this unit replaced, the Tire Trakker people told me that the receiver should not be left connected to the 12-volt RV power unless it was turned on and running.  Also "There is a note in the manual about this."  (Not in my original manual or the new manual that came with the replacement receiver.)
 >>  I changed the batteries in the sensors every year, but the sensors were often intermittent.  I felt that they were very sensitive to the physical nature of the valve stem to which they were attached.
 >> I felt that the "error detection" logic in the software left a lot to be desired.  I experienced many cases of "false error indication."  When I read Tire Trakker's criteria for the error I could see why I got the error indication, even though there was no problem.
 At present my system is sitting on a shelf in my office.  The receiver is sick again and 4 of my 10 sensors have completely stopped working.  Over the years the unit did catch a couple of situations that could have developed into serious problems.  However, I feel that it was not a good investment.
 While my experience with Tire Trakker has not been good, I have talked with other people that have had good results with it (or with one of the 3 identical systems that are sold under other brand names.)  Obviously YMMV.
 I now have a different motorhome and have started to look for a new TPMS.  Glad to hear that Andy has researched the subject and selected a system.

Doug

Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

Reply #8 – January 22, 2014, 09:35:13 am

Yahoo Message Number: 144687

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Good point, Bob.  Does your Pressure Pro system need a wireless booster so the toad's signals reach the monitor?

Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

Reply #10 – January 22, 2014, 09:38:49 am

Yahoo Message Number: 144689

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Larry, thanks for your reply. I hadn't heard of the Doran, but after your post I looked on Amazon and saw it there. Is that system something that I could easily install myself - just screw on the tire sensors and program the monitor?

Cindy in Q for now.

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Reply #12 – January 22, 2014, 03:07:49 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 144695

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Hi, Cindy, Bob, Andy, Gini, and other interested parties,

I'm at Quartzsite. I elected to go with the Tire Traker system. I liked it for several reasons: user changeable batteries, small monitor (dashboard real estate is getting scarce), user manual is easy to read and understand, light weight sensors, competitive price, sensors available at Camping World if necessary (Tire Traker and Tire Minder are the same system, just a different private label).

Although I don't understand the hardware(circuit boards)/firmware differences between the competing systems, they all seem to be pretty much the same technology, i.e. reading and displaying remote information wirelessly. The differences seem to be pretty minor, despite what the reps say, and it's mostly which features appeal to you. Every system will have its pros and cons.

In any case, I will be the ongoing test case for Tire Traker. Terry Tanner installed the Tire Traker system awhile ago per one of his files, but all he did was describe the installation. He hasn't reported how he's liked it after using it for awhile.

If I have any difficulties, I'll keep the group posted.

Kathy Lautz

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Reply #14 – January 23, 2014, 08:40:52 am

Yahoo Message Number: 144707

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Yes I did. In my current frame of mind, I'm reinforcing corners, not cutting them. Also, I'll wire the booster cord to a 12v plug and use the extra 12v receptacle in the cabinet to the left of my TV in my mid bath. I don't use the TV so I keep a power converter up there too, for charging small electronics.
We'll all just have to keep a running log of TPMS issues as they occur, to see if any definitive pattern shows up. I'd also like to hear about any anyone's system alerts if/as they happen.

Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

Reply #16 – January 24, 2014, 12:10:25 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 144716

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"Also, I'll wire the  booster cord to a 12v plug and use the  extra 12v receptacle in the  cabinet to the left of my TV in my mid bath. I don't use the TV so I  keep a power converter up there too, for charging small electronics"

Cindy
 Just about all TPMS systems have decent range. I would hold off on buying the booster until you see a need.
A booster does need to be plugged in, when is use and should be unplugged to prevent a power drain when parked..

Larry

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Reply #18 – January 24, 2014, 07:02:17 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 144719

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Thanks, Kathy, exactly what I was looking for, if I need to go that route.

Cindy

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Reply #20 – October 23, 2015, 10:36:07 am

Yahoo Message Number: 156577

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I have a 2014 TK.  I am installing TireMinder TM66 TPMS.  I found I had to remove my value extensions.  No a real problem in my estimation.  I'd rather have a direct connection to the tire values.  I used a Demal to enlarge the holes on the rear tire hub cap.

I have two questions for the group.

1. I'm pondering going without the rear hub caps.  Yes its not as 'pretty' but it become more easy to check air pressure and fill rear tires.  Anyone else doing this.

2. For those that have installed this system where did your install the booster.

Thank you all for your help -- both past and future.  I'm a member of many newsgroups this is one of the best well run.

 glen google.com/+grhafford

Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS)

Reply #22 – October 24, 2015, 11:48:41 am

Yahoo Message Number: 156604

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In the past 8 years we have used two different TPMS systems and neither required removal of the valve extensions. Why did you have to take them off?

Jim C

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Reply #24 – October 24, 2015, 12:34:00 pm

Yahoo Message Number: 156606

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I may have misunderstood as well. However, on some of the valves we use the solid trucker type valve extensions and I thought he might be referring to those and we didn't need to remove those.

Jim C