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Suggestions for quality caulking gun to dispense Polyurethane sealan
Yahoo Message Number: 126702
Ok.. So I've been using a cheapie caulking gun for sealing my windows and boy does it tire the ol hands out trying to squeeze 3M 5200 out of a tube.  I'll admit that these caulking guns are the run of the mill Home Depot specials for  there that have different ratio's to help apply thicker materials such as Poly sealants.. I see models from Newborn Bros, Tajima and others..
I'm not able to afford a $300 battery powered gun from Milwaukee or other companies but would like a  easier since I've probably got to still apply about 60LF+ of caulking in the not too distant future..

Thx!!
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Yahoo Message Number: 126703
Rick Flower  wrote: I've heard there are much better guns out there that have different ratio's to help apply thicker materials such as Poly sealants.. I see models from Newborn Bros, Tajima and others..
--- I also am tired of the cheap, drippy, painful handle, difficult to squeeze caulk guns; I'm ordering the "Dripless 3000" from Paintdawg:
 http://www.paintdawg.com/Dripless_Caulking_Guns.shtml

As always, YMMV.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home
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Yahoo Message Number: 126704
Take the following with a grain of salt, because I haven't actually used this product. That said... I have a collection of Ryobi One+ cordless power tools (saber saw, circular saw, drill, sander, buffer, Rotozip-style saw) that has served me very well in the past five years. Their cordless caulk gun is available at Home Depot for $40-$50:

http://tinyurl.com/88fn8dl
 That's without battery and charger, of course. But if you already own other tools in the Ryobi One+ system, or if you're looking for cordless power tools that are affordable (unlike Makita and some others) and of decent quality, I recommend the Ryobi tools. I've built all my furniture in Skylark with them. And Mike Sylvester uses 'em--that's about as good an endorsement as I can think of. :-)

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
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Yahoo Message Number: 126705
"I'm not able to afford a $300 battery powered gun from Milwaukee or other companies but would like a Rick
 Several years ago I did a full rehab on the MIL's house. I didn't want to take my expensive power tools home each night so I bought an inexpensive Ryobi Plus 1 kit to leave on the jobsite.
http://www.ryobitools.com/catalog/18v_oneplus> The Plus  1 series conta
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)
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Yahoo Message Number: 126706
"I have a collection of Ryobi One+ cordless power tools"

Andy

Do great minds think alike?
 How have your lithium batteries held up. The NiCad batteries usually are only good for two years or so before the capacity drops too much to be of use. The leaf blower sucks the life out a battery quickly so this type of usage probably contributes to the short life.
I would like one of the 3 amp/hour lithium batteries but the $90 cost keeps stopping me, especially when I can buy a pair of 1.5 amp/hour NiCads for $60. Tough to know what is the better deal.

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)
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Yahoo Message Number: 126707
3M 5200 is an incredibly strong adhesive, it's bonds are considered permanent, as
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Yahoo Message Number: 126708
Point taken.. I'm hoping I (or anyone after me) will never need to remove a window as I know first hand how much effort is required to break the seal on a window installed with this stuff.

You're also correct on the guns as most are quite expensive but the Ryobi appears to get good marks as long as it's not the ZRP310 model which I believe is somehow different than the current P310 model..
Amazon is selling refurb'd ZRP310 and someone mentioned specifically issues with the plunge rod bending when used with thicker material -- perhaps it was just an issue with that one gun but I'll avoid that model regardless.
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Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126709
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:31:30 -0000, Larry wrote: "  How have your lithium batteries held up. The NiCad batteries usually are only good for two years or so before the capacity drops too much to be of use. The leaf blower sucks the life out a battery quickly so this type of usage probably contributes to the short life.
I would like one of the 3 amp/hour lithium batteries but the $90 cost keeps stopping me, especially when I can buy a pair of 1.5 amp/hour NiCads for $60. Tough to know what is the better deal."

Larry/Andy et-al,
 What do you think of their current 18V system -- particularly for their drill/driver(s)?  I've currently got a small Milwaukee driver that fits the bill for most of my jobs (see link below) but this driver will NOT drill and doesn't have super high torque for those tougher jobs.. For that I bought a Makita drill/driver back in '07 but it's been a failure due to what I've been told are plastic gears that wear out.. I can get it rebuilt but why bother if it's just going to break again..

Are the Ryobi's better in this regard -- perhaps using metal gears? Since this caulking driver does not come with any battery/charger I was thinking I might be able to get a drill/driver with battery for a better price as they've got refurbs at Home Depot for about $80 with two batteries.. They've also got a kit with driver, combo charger (for nicads or li-on) and two LI-on batteries for $129..

Milwaukee driver: http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200357813_200357813

Thx!!
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Yahoo Message Number: 126710
Rick
 Your Milwaukee electric screwdriver is toy compared to any impact driver.
The smaller Ryobi impact driver will drive 4" X 3/8" lag bolts into pine. It is, by far,  my most used power tool and has been used almost daily for several years without a failure.
The 1/2", 2-speed drill is also original but is showing signs of wear, not bad after a few thousand holes, many through 1/4" steel.
Considering the price, it is a better deal than my old Makita which had the chuck fail.
There are Ryobi several kits available. Look hard at the prices of the different tools and also compare batteries (there are three batteries, 1.5AH (amp/hour) nicad, 1.5AH lithium and a 3AH lithium).
 What I like best in having one style of rechargeable battery that fits all my battery tools, a feature other tool manufacturers have not adopted. You will always have to replace batteries but it is better than having three or four types batteries and the one you need is dead. Having one style is cheaper in the short and long term.
When doing a power-tool intensive job, I will bring 2 or 3 batteries and a fast-charger. I use drill and impact driver almost exclusively, bringing the 120-VAC drill or air impact tools out only when a lot of work needs to be done or for a extra tough job.
Ryobi's circular saw, reciprocating saw and 4-1/2" angle grinder are light duty tools, convenient for a small jobs or places where 120-VAC power is not available. Unfortunately, they are not nearly as powerful as their 120-VAC cousins. Battery run time is also short on these three tools unless the large lithium battery is used.
 Check out Ryobi's selection of Plus 1 tools, there is a lot to choose from.

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)
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Yahoo Message Number: 126711
Larry, I think I read a blurb about a brake job you did on your LD but I can't find it in the files. I'm thinking about doing the rears in my "91 Ford RB. I noticed that there are at least two sizes listed? 121/8 X 3 and 12 X 3. Do you happen to know which size fits? I think you also recommended Motorcraft? Be well. Dale from Downey.

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Reply #10 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126712
Dale

See
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/lifewithalazydazerv/message/119036>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lwade/sets/72157625459994065/>

I used Motorcraft pads and Centric rotors and calipers.
There are many other good brands of brakes. You may not have a lot of choices due to the age of your rig. If it has drum brakes, the choices are even more limited.
 Don't have a clue as to which rear brakes you have. You will have to disassemble the brake and them match it.
Find a good brake supply shop and don't bother with Pep Boys or the other mass auto parts outlets.
Napa is also another potentially good source.
I buy parts from and use the data base of Rock Auto a lot.
http://www.rockauto.com/>

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)
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Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126713
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 23:05:30 -0000, Larry wrote: "  Your Milwaukee electric screwdriver is toy compared to any impact driver."
 True -- but I frequently use it to drive 2 or 3" wood screws without issues and this driver was used by itself to assemble a 4'x12' chicken coop easily -- that tool has lots of torque for its size which is why I like it so much..
 When it's time to drill or drive something that requires more oomphf, I pull out the Makita -- it's MUCH heavier but gets the job done..
I've also got a Metabo driver which has great ergonomics but just doesn't have the torque for most jobs (and perhaps has about 1/3rd to 1/2 the torque of the Milwaukee driver) and as such sits around in it's case and I should probably find a new home for it..
 I realize the Milwaukee isn't comparable to one of the aforementioned Ryobi drivers or impact wrenches.  I do find the Milwaukee can be used for about 85% of the jobs I use a battery powered tool for and weighs very little with superb battery life..

I'll checkout the local HD to see if I can get a deal on a Ryobi system..

thx!
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Yahoo Message Number: 126717
"How have your lithium batteries held up."
 I've only had them for about a year, so it's too soon to tell how long they will last. But I will say this: unlike the NiCd and NiMH batteries, the LiIon batteries hold a charge for months, so they're perfect for an occasional user like me. With the older battery technologies, half the time when I picked up a tool it would need charging before I could use it, because it had self-discharged just sitting on the shelf. I've never had that happen with the Ryobi lithium packs. I too hesitated a long time before spending the money, but I'm very glad I did.
 "What do you think of their current 18V system -- particularly for their drill/driver(s)?"
 I like the Ryobi One+ 18V system just fine, as I said earlier. I'm not a contractor, however; I'm doing occasional fix-up and home-improvement work with these tools. If I were earning a daily living with them, I'd probably be using contractor-grade Makita tools (not their consumer-grade stuff), because it would be worth the (considerable) expense.
 I owned a contractor-grade Makita drill/driver for a number of years, and it was built like a tank. But when I needed more cordless tools, such as saws and a sander, it would have cost me well over a thousand dollars (probably closer to two thousand) to get a set of contractor-grade Makita tools that would match what I bought from Ryobi for about $200. I ended up trading the Makita drill to a friend and going all-Ryobi. For my purposes, the Ryobi One+ system is perfect. I've never run into a job I couldn't do with those tools.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
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Reply #13 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126719
An alternative system that uses interchangeable batteries is the the Sears "Nextec 12-volt tools" with Li-ion battery that recharges in less than 30 minutes. I have the drill
 http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917586000P?prdNo=8&blockNo=8&blockType=G8
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00917586000P?prdNo=8&blockNo=8&blockType=G8>

and dearly love it, but there are many other tools.
 http://www.sears.com/shc/s/search_10153_12605?vName=Tools&keyword=nextec12-volt+tools&viewItems=25&autoRedirect=true&redirectType=CAT_REC&prop17=nextec12-volt tools
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/search_10153_12605?vName=Tools&keyword=nextec12-volt+tools&viewItems=25&autoRedirect=true&redirectType=CAT_REC&prop17=nextec12-volt%20tools>

I don't know how they compare with Ryobi tools.

Eric
2005 Jayco 24SS
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Reply #14 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126720
As I have a great personal and business relationship with Centric, if anyone here in the Los Angeles area ever needs brakes, email me directly, I am positive that the price will be right. And I can help ensure that you get the correct parts the first time, in fact can easily arrange for you to see how the calipers are rebuilt, the pads manufactured, and what an operation that Centric is.
 For those of you not local, sorry, although feel free to contact me if you are getting conflicting information on brake parts.
 As Larry said, Rockauto is a fantastic source and has very fair pricing. I have used them for a huge variety of needs.

Ken Sann

Wannabe in socal
Doing the rear brakes yourself
Reply #15 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126721
Hi Dale,

After I got my 24' SOB, I realized the back end weighed over 7000 pounds. At that point, I decided I wasn't man enough to work on anything connected to the axle! Shoot, my 3000 pound rated floor jack can't handle even one side.

Les Schwab has done excellent work on the rear brakes at a very reasonable price, and I don't have to risk life and limb. I have plenty of mechanicing experience, including racing cars for 7 years and doing all my own work, but handling a 7000 pound axle weight is much different than working on cars that whose _total_ weight is only 3000 pounds.

But maybe you are younger and fitter ;-)

Eric
2005 Jayco 24SS
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Reply #16 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126725
"An alternative system that uses interchangeable batteries is the Sears 'Nextec 12-volt tools' with Li-ion battery that recharges in less than 30 minutes... I don't know how they compare with Ryobi tools."
 The Nextec tools are relatively small and light compared with conventional cordless power tools, so they should be easier to carry and less fatiguing to use. On the other hand, there's a reason why they recharge in 30 minutes: the Nextec battery stores only 15.6 watt-hours, compared to 48 watt-hours for the Ryobi LiIon battery. Still, for occasional light-duty use, the Nextec tools could be appealing, especially with Sears's Craftsman warranty backing them up.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
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Yahoo Message Number: 126727
"Still, for occasional light-duty use, the Nextec tools could be appealing, especially with Sears's Craftsman warranty backing them up"

Andy

The Sears of old where their tools were all guaranteed for life is gone. Only simple hand tools still have the lifetime warranty.
 I broke a Sear's clicker-type torque wrench last year, one that I was given as a present when I was 18. I had broken it twice before and was replaced by Sears. This time they told me it was not covered anymore, the only exception was if I could produce the original receipt. Small chance of that.
Sear's cordless tools now have a 1-year warranty, same as their other power tools.
http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/nb_10155_12602_NB_CSwarranty#point4>
 The Nextec are small, light-duty tools perfectly suited for carrying in an RV. The product line is small, with several unusual tools.

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)
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Yahoo Message Number: 126729
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:20:23 -0000, "Larry" lw5315us@...> wrote:

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The Sears of old where their tools were all guaranteed for life is gone.
Very true and Sears may not be around much longer. They have been headed downhill for several years. I shop for tools elsewhere.
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy
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Reply #19 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126742
Posted by: "Don Malpas"  cool_delta_mike Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:24 am (PST) 'Very true and Sears may not be around much longer. They have been headed downhill for several years. I shop for tools elsewhere.'
 Another 'sadness' to add to the list. From my recollection, Sears & Roebuck started their decline some 40 years ago at least with respect to their tool offerings. I suppose much earlier really, as small families were pushed off the farm and their core mail order catalog business declined. Sears changed to keep up, but sometimes in the wrong direction  dabbling in insurance, finance, real estate and more, taking away from whatever was left of the downhome, we care about you, feeling of shopping at Sears.
 As newlyweds, the wife and I would go to Sears in Vallejo, CA and browse, she in clothing and me in tools. She'd join me and we'd spend an hour or so, often buying nothing at all 'cause we had so little money. For my birthday or Christmas, there would always be some Craftsman tool as a present ' I was easy enough to shop for as we had few material things. One day, pregnant and well along, she looped her arm through mine in the tool department and just followed along . . . that is until she saw the 'real me' an aisle over. Aghast, she pulled her arm away from the stranger and in a very innocent and shocked voice apologized. He assured her that he had not minded in the least and that it had been rather pleasant. Her face was still red when she got to my side.
 Back then there were department sales people, so the folks working the tool department were knowledgably and  could answer questions. Then, in the early 70 's, that changed when they went to a centralized cashier station covering several departments ' no more tool specialists, though at least their tool quality hadn't gone downhill and they were still made in the USA. No any more.

bumper

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bumper
"Yonder" '05 MB
"WLDBLU" glider trailer
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Reply #20 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126744
I know this is off-topic, but I have such fond memories of the old Sears & Roebuck, I just had to add my 2-cents.  When I was growing up in So. Calif., there was only one Sears that we knew of.  It was the big store in Los Angeles, and 30 miles from Pomona.  Going there was like visiting the Smithsonian.  It was an all-day family affair.  The store had multiple floors, and an amazing assortment of things to buy.
 In those days, Sears had their famous catalog.  You could spend hours browsing through it.  You could even buy motorcycles out of the catalog.
Before that you could buy kits to build houses.  Sears was really part of the American way of life.  Then, like Bumper said, they stopped printing the catalog, and the store started going downhill.  The only bright spot for me today is that here in Prescott Arizona the local Sears tool department does actually have knowledgeable tool people, and a separate checkout counter for tools.  I suppose someday that will go away too.

Dick
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Reply #21 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126745
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"...I have such fond memories of the old Sears & Roebuck, I just had to add my 2-cents."

Dick
I also have fond memories of the local Sears & Sawbuck Stores. As a kid I'd step into our local store because right up front they displayed the genuine leather saddles. I remember that you could smell that leather twenty feet away. And in upstate New York I could bet that there wasn't more than two good saddle horses in the entire county.

Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
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Reply #22 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126746
Oh, the little Sears Catalog of just toys that was always at Grandma's house in time for Thanksgiving FamilyFest. Circling and drooling over all the possibilities, comparing with cousins wishes, sneaking hints, such fond memories.

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Sears memories
Reply #23 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126747
My "Gran" wasn't much of a birthday shopper, so she'd drive me to the Sears store, tell me "go buy something", while she read in the car. I still have and still use a (now 56 year old) Sears soldering gun from one of those birthday trips.
 Sears still sells us plenty of stuff. Every time we've bought a major appliance in the last 20 years, it seems to come from Sears - best selection, best price in our area. I still get tools from them, just not as often, now that there is a Harbor Freight a mile away.

Eric
2005 Jayco 24SS
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Reply #24 –
Yahoo Message Number: 126748
My sister & i played a game with the Toy Catalog for hours on end. We sat together. Everything on my side of the catalog was mine. Everything on her side was hers. We would swap toys with each other if there was something one of us wanted but it was on the other side of the page.
No video games, smart phones, TV & such. You entertained yourself.

Ed