Toad or No Toad-Brake systems March 13, 2001, 08:24:10 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2607Consider keeping your options open. Next time you buy a car, find one you like that can be towed without expensive modifications. Hondas, Saturn and some other automatic cars can be towed as well as some trucks. Motorhome magazine has a list of towable vehicles. If you find that a toad would be usefull, get a towbar installed. A car is nice when you you stay in one place for a period of time. If you move a lot, leave the car home. Rent if needed. Most states now require that toads have braking systems. Who has experience with these systems?I have seen several types with a range of prices(some are very expensive) but have no idea whats correct for our types of usage..
Toad or No Toad Reply #1 – March 13, 2001, 08:59:29 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2609JP Woodruff wrote: (snip) - - - BUT .. if I'm in a campground and I want to go for my morning hike, where is the trail? Do I need to unhook and drive the RV to a trailhead 3 miles distant? And is there a place to park the RV at the trailhead? - - -That's my concern also. So, although I just have a little 22'er, I bought a Saturn that I'm going to tow one of these days. I've not camped much yet, but I've already seen lots of times I wished I had my car. Now I'll have one. Sarah in Seattle
Toad or No Toad Reply #2 – March 13, 2001, 11:23:30 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2614Try walking or bicycling. Small scoters or electric bikes also work. Try ZAP on the web. Bruce
Toad or No Toad Reply #3 – March 13, 2001, 11:23:30 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2615Try walking or bicycling. Small scoters or electric bikes also work. Try ZAP on the web. Bruce
Toad or No Toad Reply #4 – March 14, 2001, 12:19:25 am Yahoo Message Number: 2616"What do campers do when they want to go birdwatching? "We still use the LD rig - park alongside the road at trailheads. We seldom stay in a place for more than three days, and have never felt the need for a Toad. Even when we go to our kid's house for a week over holidays, we still shop, sightsee, etc. in the rig. I have nothing against those who tow a Toad; I just have never felt the need for one, and have been happy not to have one on some roads and for some gas stations.Happy TrailsGus Weber
Toad or No Toad Reply #5 – March 14, 2001, 12:19:25 am Yahoo Message Number: 2617"What do campers do when they want to go birdwatching? "We still use the LD rig - park alongside the road at trailheads. We seldom stay in a place for more than three days, and have never felt the need for a Toad. Even when we go to our kid's house for a week over holidays, we still shop, sightsee, etc. in the rig. I have nothing against those who tow a Toad; I just have never felt the need for one, and have been happy not to have one on some roads and for some gas stations.Happy TrailsGus Weber
Toad or No Toad Reply #6 – March 14, 2001, 12:19:25 am Yahoo Message Number: 2618"What do campers do when they want to go birdwatching? "We still use the LD rig - park alongside the road at trailheads. We seldom stay in a place for more than three days, and have never felt the need for a Toad. Even when we go to our kid's house for a week over holidays, we still shop, sightsee, etc. in the rig. I have nothing against those who tow a Toad; I just have never felt the need for one, and have been happy not to have one on some roads and for some gas stations.Happy TrailsGus Weber
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #7 – March 14, 2001, 08:49:51 am Yahoo Message Number: 2619I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs.jack
Toad or No Toad Reply #8 – March 14, 2001, 05:37:10 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2637We have towed a Jeep Cherokee some 50,000 miles with our old MH and also with our 1998 26.5 MB Lazy Daze, through all kinds of country. Each time we left home we debated on leaving the Jeep at home and each time we decided to take it. Last year we went to Alaska via the ferry's so we left the jeep. Although the campgrounds were close to town and there was no traffic, we both said never again without our "Toad"
Toad or No Toad Reply #9 – March 14, 2001, 06:07:40 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2638We'd like to know more about your trip to Alaska by way of ferry. Did you take the ferries both ways? Out of which ports? Was it expensive to take your LD, and did you sleep in it on the ferry? How long did it take? It sounds like a wonderful way to go! Would it work to take the ferries one way and drive the other?Thanks very much, Sandy
Toad or No Toad Reply #10 – March 14, 2001, 06:42:22 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2639We would also like to hear about your Alaska trip. We will be taking the ferry from Bellingham, Washington, (with our LD) to Haines, AK. We reserved the ferry back in January, to be sure we could get a cabin and reserve a place for the LD. For two adults in an outside cabin w/bath, plus our 26.5 LD (which is charged by length), it will cost us about $2400. Certainly not inexpensive, but we thought it was worth it to have the 3 day inside passage ride on the ferry and also have our LD with us when we disembark in Haines. Please let us hear about your trip. Thanks.-Robin
Toad or No Toad Reply #11 – March 14, 2001, 06:44:18 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2640P.S. You cannot sleep in your rig on the ferry (it is not permitted).
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #12 – March 14, 2001, 09:06:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2643bear_bait_jack said: "I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs."Ibelieve toad brakes are required in many states, Jack. Here in California the requirement is anything over 1,500 lbs., which would include most cars. Check out the following web site for your local requirements. Remember, you must (legally) meet the requirements of any state you travel through: [url=http://www.lazydazeowners.com/[url=http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htmSafe towing! ~Greg
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #13 – March 14, 2001, 09:06:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2644bear_bait_jack said: "I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs."Ibelieve toad brakes are required in many states, Jack. Here in California the requirement is anything over 1,500 lbs., which would include most cars. Check out the following web site for your local requirements. Remember, you must (legally) meet the requirements of any state you travel through: [url=http://www.lazydazeowners.com/[url=http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htmSafe towing! ~Greg
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #14 – March 14, 2001, 09:06:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2645bear_bait_jack said: "I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs."Ibelieve toad brakes are required in many states, Jack. Here in California the requirement is anything over 1,500 lbs., which would include most cars. Check out the following web site for your local requirements. Remember, you must (legally) meet the requirements of any state you travel through: [url=http://www.lazydazeowners.com/[url=http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htmSafe towing! ~Greg
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #15 – March 14, 2001, 09:06:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2646bear_bait_jack said: "I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs."Ibelieve toad brakes are required in many states, Jack. Here in California the requirement is anything over 1,500 lbs., which would include most cars. Check out the following web site for your local requirements. Remember, you must (legally) meet the requirements of any state you travel through: [url=http://www.lazydazeowners.com/[url=http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htmSafe towing! ~Greg
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #16 – March 14, 2001, 09:06:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2647bear_bait_jack said: "I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs."Ibelieve toad brakes are required in many states, Jack. Here in California the requirement is anything over 1,500 lbs., which would include most cars. Check out the following web site for your local requirements. Remember, you must (legally) meet the requirements of any state you travel through: [url=http://www.lazydazeowners.com/[url=http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htmSafe towing! ~Greg
Toad or No Toad-Brake systems Reply #17 – March 14, 2001, 09:06:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 2648bear_bait_jack said: "I didn't think that any state in the U.S. required brakes on a Toad. Is that correct? That doesn't mean that brakes on a Toad are not a good idea. I worked in a campground in WY last summer and very few Toads had brakes. I believe brakes are required in Canada for vehicles over 1000 lbs."Ibelieve toad brakes are required in many states, Jack. Here in California the requirement is anything over 1,500 lbs., which would include most cars. Check out the following web site for your local requirements. Remember, you must (legally) meet the requirements of any state you travel through: [url=http://www.lazydazeowners.com/[url=http://www.rvsafety.com/state.htmSafe towing! ~Greg
Toad or No Toad Reply #18 – April 05, 2001, 02:14:41 am Yahoo Message Number: 3066"if I'm in a campground and I want to go for my morning hike, where is the trail? Do I need to unhook and drive the RV to a trailhead 3 miles distant? And is there a place to park the RV at the trailhead?"For short distances like that, how about a folding bicycle? Dahon (http://www.dahon.com) makes a wide variety of bikes, many of which can fit in a small, easily carried bag when folded.