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Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Yahoo Message Number: 20141
I was wondering if anyone here has had experience with the coiled water hoses (polyurethane at Camping World) that look so interesting? It looks like they would be easy to drain and store, and probably stay cleaner too; is there a draw back (other than price) that I am missing? Also does anyone put a bug deflector on their motorhome? Most of the folks with pickups have a bug deflector (but they keep the front of the hood from getting stone chips more than keeping bugs of the windshield!) I have never seen one on a class C. I did see a LD last summer that was returning from an Alaskan trip that had a large screen/shield covering the grill and probably the headlamps; where do you buy something like that? I also saw a LD that had clear plastic chip guard (tape?) covering the front of the hood and the front corners of the coach; anyone have experience with it? The present owner did not know where the original owner got it or brand.
Thanks for any opinions on these items.
Steve K
Steve K

2003 Mid-bath
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20149
"I was wondering if anyone here has had experience with the coiled water hoses (polyurethane at Camping World)?"
 I've been using them for about a year and like them a lot. No drawbacks that I can think of aside from slightly higher cost--and the convenience factor is well worth the price, in my humble opinion.

Andy Baird :-)
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories- bug deflector
Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20169
Steve K
 Bug deflectors do not work well on vans because of the short distance between the front of the hood and the windshield. I found one at a swap meet many years ago and installed it on my 77 Chevy van. It was ineffective. The bugs were deflected only part way up the windshield.
No wonder it was for sale!

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Coiled water hoses and other accesso
Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20165
Hi Steve,

I have had experience with both.  My opinion  is as follows:

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I was wondering if anyone here has had experience with the coiled water hoses (polyurethane at Camping World) that look so interesting?
I purchased the coiled hose after being in an accident and having a leak from the water tank which created a very muddy situation.   :-(   What I found was the diameter of the hose to be rather small.  I wish it were 5/8 inch  so that when I needed to refill the water tank (which with the leak was often)  it would have been faster.  It is amazing how much longer it takes between having a 1/2 and  a 5/8 in hose.  The other negative is that the hose does not recoil as tightly as it originally is in the store.  All in all, I would keep the old hose and opt for a shorter length  so that less would be laying on the ground.

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Also does anyone put a bug deflector on their motor home?
When I bought my  LD from the original owner it came with the big deflector.  The first time I went to wash and polish the LD, I discovered that it was impossible to get the hood clean with the deflector in place.  So I removed it.  I then discovered that the deflector had rubbed the paint off on the hood from the wind pressure pushing against it.  I never put the deflector back on, and when my LD was at the factory  being repaired from the accident, as long as they had to paint the side panels, I also had them repaint the hood.

Like I said, this is just my opinion.

Kathi
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20242
I haven't had experience with the coiled hoses but have had experiece with 1/2" hoses on RVs and can say that they aren't nearly as good as using a larger diameter hose. The lower flow rate of the smaller diameter hose is significant. I thought the coiled hose at CW was 3/8" not even 1/2"  and that would be worse yet. I know I've seen them in 1/2" elsewhere but I prefer the 5/8" hoses for the increased flow rate. You will really see a difference in the flow when showering and flushing the toilet and using the toilet sprayer as well as some other things. If two water sources are being used at once it will be far worse than using the pump and even in the shower the pump worked better on an old RV than a 1/2" hose. They seem like neat idea but unless you can get a 5/8" one I wouldn't bother. Get a shorter hose if you don't want it on the ground or try one of the Handi-Hose flat hoses they sell if you just want the convenience of one that empties of water easily and takes up very little space.
 It's often good to have hoses of various lengths and enough for when the closest water faucet is not real close by. I like to have a minimum of 50' and prefer the type that won't kink. Wal*Mart carries a very good quality hose with a lifetime warranty that can't kink due to construction of it and the price is good too.
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20307
"I thought the coiled hose at CW was 3/8" not even 1/2"  and that would be worse yet. I know I've seen them in 1/2" elsewhere but I prefer the 5/8" hoses for the increased flow rate."

Here is a clarification for those thinking about using these coiled hoses. With most standard hose types when they say they are 1/2" or 5/8" they are stating the inside diameter (I.D.). With these coiled hoses the diameter they state is the outside diameter (O.D.). That is a very important point!

At Camping World the 3/8" hose is the I.D., it is a 1/2" O.D. hose, they state the I.D. on ALL their hoses. The companies that make these hoses have basically 2 sizes available, 1/2" O.D. and 5/8" O.D. (1/2" I.D). If you are going to use this type hose make sure to get the 5/8" O.D. because this is at least the same inside and outside diameter as the existing PEX internal plumbing. The flow rate will be the same and it won't affect the dynamic pressure like a 1/2" O.D. hose will. They are much more expensive though and not available at all stores that sell those hoses. I've seen them in the Improvements catalog and they are $40-65 depending on length (25-50'). You may find better prices on these 5/8" O.D. coiled hoses elsewhere, Improvements isn't a price leader that's for sure! You can get a few good quality drinking water safe hoses in various lengths for that much money or you could get longer standard hoses and cut them down to smaller lengths using hose repair male and female connectors to make your custom lengths.

Mike
Coiled water hoses and other accesso
Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20280
We have a coiled hose (1/2", I think), but we did not get it at CW.  To a point I would agree that it does not provide the water flow of a 5/8", but I generally find it adequate.  We rarely use our shower (We usually plan to be somewhere with a shower every couple of nights.), but if we did, I think water flow would be a more serious matter.  Ocassionaly we ahve to turn on the pump if we need more pressure for a short period of time.
Tha coiled hose is really handy when moving frequently.  It just depends on how you use your LD.

Allen
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20287
Allen, In case you didn't know when you run the pump even if on city water hook-up your are no longer using the city water and only water from your fresh water tank. The check valve or aniti-siphon valve on the city water hook-up will close when you use the pump. That protects the pump and the city water supply from possible contamination by the tank water. It isn't that you are getting more water pressure it is that you are getting more water flow. Most people don't really understand the difference between water pressure and water flow.
Although they are somewhat related they are very different.
 Instead of copying a post I made on this topic earlier this month in another forum below is a link to it. It is something that many people here should probably read if they want to be clear on what the difference is between these and how they are linked to each other.A restriction in flow has affect on dynamic pressure but not on static pressure. You will no doubt need to copy and paste the link due to the length of it. I included links there to other sites that further explain the differences quite well.
 http://www.rv.net/forums/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/CFB/1/TID/658186. cfm

You could also go the the RV.net forum and use the magnifying glass to do a search. Search on static pressure and use my username there of richmondmj as the posting user. It was posted on March 12, 2003.

It may be a personal choice but we always use the shower in our LD and I've always used the shower in any RV and not a campgrounds whenever possible. I've never gotten athlete's foot or other things in the RV shower and can't say the same for campground or other public showers. I know how clean the RV shower is and who and what's been in it, I don't know about the other showers. Even though it is smaller it is still much cleaner and safer. I've also had a wallet stolen while in a CG shower when I was tent camping and had no choice but to use it.

To each his own!

Mike
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20296
"It may be a personal choice but we always use the shower in our LD and I've always used the shower in any RV and not a campgrounds whenever possible. I've never gotten athlete's foot or other things in the RV shower and can't say the same for campground or other public showers. I know how clean the RV shower is and who and what's been in it, I don't know about the other showers. Even though it is smaller it is still much cleaner and safer. I've also had a wallet stolen while in a CG shower when I was tent camping and had no choice but to use it."

Mike
 No matter how well a campground cleans its showers, you can never be sure how clean and healthy the previous camper before you was. I too prefer to use the LD's shower. Why have such a nice shower and not use it? Knowing that my wife' phobia with germs, I'm surprised she lets me use it ;-)

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
 
Re: Coiled water hoses and other accessories, Yes or No?
Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 20305
"No matter how well a campground cleans its showers, you can never be sure how clean and healthy the previous camper before you was. I too prefer to use the LD's shower. Why have such a nice shower and not use it? Knowing that my wife' phobia with germs, I'm surprised she lets me use it."

Larry,

That's exactly my point and reasoning!

Sounds like your wife and mine have a few things in common also!

Mike