Ford Maverick PU toad June 17, 2021, 08:11:29 am I've been researching toads and discovered that Ford is coming out with a new pickup, the Ford Maverick. The hybrid with ECVT trans IS flat towable. Production to start 3rd week in July 2021. It's advertised as an urban hauler because it's small. It'll be the smallest of Ford's PU line, below the Ranger. Based on the Escape hybrid chassis and power train. 199.7" long and 68.7" tall, base curb weight 3674 lbs.I like the idea of a PU for a toad, but it is about a foot and a half longer than the SUV towables in our weight range---Cherokee, Escape Hybrid, Equinox.I know I'll get those who say never buy a first year model, but the power train is tested. The body is the new part.What does the FOLD say? Does the length make much difference?Linda
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #1 – June 17, 2021, 09:44:18 am That is pretty heavy for a vehicle with limited out-of-sight storage. a pickup is fine if you regularly carry tall or dirty items, but it is all exposed to weather, theft, and unsecured - to bounce out. However, if your main use will be as an everyday hauler rather than a toad, then the compromise might be worth it.Steve
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #2 – June 17, 2021, 01:39:30 pm We own two cars that are somewhat related to the new Ford Maverick being a 2016 Ford C-Max Energi, and a 2002 Lincoln Blackwood. Both have great functionality and value proposition. Although both were also market failures especially the Lincoln Blackwood.With the Ford C-Max Energi, your first 20 miles are pure electric so my daughter being a city driver rarely needs to purchase gas. The Energi trim includes both hybrid and plug-in electric; whereas, a separate trim is hybrid only (no battery or plug-in 20 miles). The Ford C-Max Energi can also be flat towed. The cabin space and road visibility are great and the seating is high so it's easy to get in and out. The battery does take up 1/4 of truck hatchback space. I see this as a great toad option as you can purchase at great price and they are very economical. It's a bargain Toyota Prius with some superior functionality in my view. I do not know if the regular Hybrid only version can be Flat Towed so you would want to research. I'd only buy the Energi model if you drive less than 40 miles a day.My 2002 Ford Blackwood was the biggest market failure in pick-up history. Targeted as a luxury pickup, however, lacking a functional work truck bed and not available with 4 wheel drive. Similar size bed as a Maverick. The Blackwood did not even make it to a 2003 release. (one year, only 3000 range made). The truck bed had a carpeted floor, stainless steel sides, powered cover and LED lighting. The bed is basically a big trunk being the ultimate COSTCO grocery truck. I need to securely store my daughter musical instruments so it works great for us. Plus with almost 9000 towing capability I can tow my boat. $12,500 with 45,000 miles - try finding that price on a Classic Pickup and you will not get a 300 HP 32 valve engine or a single luxury feature. Blackwood is very similar layout to a Maverick because of limited truck bed and the dual cab. BUT NO FLAT TOW with a Blackwood. So if you combined a Ford C-Max Energi with a Blackwood you would have something like a FORD Maverick Hybrid. One huge advantage of Maverick over Blackwood is the ability to flat tow. The Maverick will not appeal to the Work Truck crowd that needs a much more functional bed. But as a toad this would work out well, especially if equipped with a FLEX BED (see attached link I believe includes cargo cover). This type truck can be a bit risky as to market failure as it’s unique as clearly demonstrated by Blackwood. I'm probably on the side-lines as I pretty much only buy market failures at a great price. I also own a Chevy Volt but again to get the bargain you have to purchase after the early adapter wave. With the $7500 tax credit the Ford Maverick might be a great value. Or wait and if not a hit get big dealer incentives on top of the tax credit. Ford Maverick's 'Flexbed' packs big-truck functionality into a small package...Used 2017 Ford C-Max Energi SE For Sale ,999 | Cars.comHere’s an example of a good price play on a 2017 Ford CMax Energi with only 160 miles. The CarFax list as a “manufacturer vehicle” which should mean it’s never been titled. As first owner you should qualify for Tax Credit of $4,000 range. First negotiate best price say $17,000. Then apply for tax credit $17,000 -$4,000 = $13,000. This is the exact way I purchased a Chevy Volt. There are taxes and shipping costs. No big risk to purchase a new car sight unseen. That’s a pretty nice Toad for under $15,000 especially in this current used car market.LarryD 2 Likes
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #3 – June 17, 2021, 03:15:14 pm Quote from: Larame SRT - June 17, 2021, 01:39:30 pmMy 2002 Ford Blackwood was the biggest market failure in pick-up history. Don't worry, there's still hope:Cybertruck | Tesla 1 Likes
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #4 – June 17, 2021, 10:47:44 pm I put in a reservation for a Maverick Lariat hybrid. Would like the extra power and towing capabilities of the 250hp upgraded engine, but it is not flat towable. A fully loaded Lariat hybrid is $32k. City mileage is 40mpg, which is pretty nice given $3.00+ gas. And that price includes a $1200 hard tonneau cover, which helps stop stuff in the bed walking away. 3 Likes
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #5 – July 06, 2021, 07:20:49 am Not sure if Ford has announced Mavericks are flat towable but the CVT transmission is a concern. Typically vehicles equipped with CVTs are not flat towable. Let's wait and see.
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #6 – July 06, 2021, 07:22:01 am Here is a video about Ford Maverick:Autoline After Hours
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #7 – July 06, 2021, 09:53:59 am Quote from: cli288 - July 06, 2021, 07:20:49 amNot sure if Ford has announced Mavericks are flat towable but the CVT transmission is a concern. Typically vehicles equipped with CVTs are not flat towable. Let's wait and see.[/quot]Yes, they have stated that the hybrid model is flat towable. It's in writing in their towing guide.https://www.maverickchat.com/threads/towing.265/#lg=attachment604&slide=0
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #8 – July 07, 2021, 02:06:39 pm Max speed with hybrid is 70 mph. That could cause some anxious moments on the highway. Seems like it would exceed the 4000lb tow limit for LD. What does full hybrid mean?Ron
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #9 – July 07, 2021, 02:27:37 pm "Max speed with hybrid is 70 mph. That could cause some anxious moments on the highway."--- It isn't clear (to me) from this statement if you mean that an RV towing a 4000 pound vehicle (or any vehicle) should be going faster than 70 mph on "the highway"?
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #10 – July 07, 2021, 03:10:47 pm Quote from: Sarz272000 - July 07, 2021, 02:06:39 pmMax speed with hybrid is 70 mph. That could cause some anxious moments on the highway. Seems like it would exceed the 4000lb tow limit for LD. What does full hybrid mean?RonMax speed with hybrid is 70 mph when towing behind a motorhome. I misread that the first time. Thanks for the question to clear that up. Maverick seems like a good toad provided the motorhome can handle it’s weight. I still don’t understand what Ford describes as “full hybrid” for the Maverick. Can anyone explain that?Ron
Re: Ford Maverick PU toad Reply #11 – July 07, 2021, 06:17:23 pm Quote from: Sarz272000 - July 07, 2021, 03:10:47 pmMax speed with hybrid is 70 mph when towing behind a motorhome. I misread that the first time. Thanks for the question to clear that up. Maverick seems like a good toad provided the motorhome can handle it’s weight. I still don’t understand what Ford describes as “full hybrid” for the Maverick. Can anyone explain that?RonThe Difference Between Full Hybrid, Mild Hybrid and Plug-in Hybrid CarsChris 3 Likes
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