Who Will Be The First? January 31, 2021, 09:18:04 am Leap up the mountain passes with 450 HP and 470 FT LBS of torque.BluePrint Engines 408CI Stroker Crate Engine | Small Block Ford Style 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #1 – January 31, 2021, 09:48:05 am The Banks headers and exhaust system along with a 5 star tune really made a huge difference in my v10. The 30ft LD is underpowered IMO otherwise. Now the new godzilla engine should take care of that issue and I imagine it wont be long until Banks and/or 5 star has a kit for it as well.
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #2 – January 31, 2021, 12:48:54 pm Pair that engine with a John Woods transmission and it would be a pulling machine.Of course, it wouldn't get past California Air Resource Board.Oh, well... 3 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #3 – January 31, 2021, 01:03:43 pm Blueprint sells engine/transmission pairs. 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #4 – January 31, 2021, 01:21:46 pm It's a small block Ford, not a big block normally found in bigger trucks. This engine is more suitable for a pickup truck or car, it wasn't designed to be an HD truck engine and will suffer a much shorter life because of it.Truck engines have reduced horsepower to cubic inch ratios, lower compression ratios to reduce the build-up of destructive heat, and large bearing surfaces to endure full-throttle operation for long durations without undue wear or damage.Normal passenger car engines do not like being run at full throttle for more than short periods, they produce too much heat, due to being designed to produce much more power per cubic inch. For example.Our V10s have about 415 cubic inches of displacement and produce 305-HP, which works out to .73-HP per cubic inch.Our 2015 Subaru Forster XT has two liters of displacement, about 122-cu/in, and produces 250-HP, equal to 2.0-HP per cu/in.Guess which one would overheat if run at full throttle for ten minutes.One might look at the older LDs that came with Chevy small-block 350 V8s. The majority of them needed fresh engines or a lot of engine work before they reached 100,000 miles. If the heads didn't crack or burn valves, the main and rod bearings would wear out, along with the timing chain. This was the result of running an engine designed for lighter vehicles. The same engine was used in lightweight pickup trucks. The 350 V8 only produced 165-HP, equal to .47-HP per cu/in. Our 1983 LD had the 350 and it was a slug, very underpowered.The older models equipped with the Chevy 454 big-block V8s had a much longer life span and a bit more power, the 454 was built as a truck engine.Larry 2 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #5 – January 31, 2021, 03:37:12 pm Wow Joan. That was the 'mushiest' piece of writing I've heard lately! Kind of circular reading and his idea of what 'stroke' is about defies reality. The stroke of pistons related to connecting rods is a result of compression ratio and gasoline quality. Duh! Bigger blocks are bigger than smaller blocks. Overhead cam engines are shaped differently than push rod engines. It is mostly about fitting higher horsepower engines in smaller engine bays. Add accessories and Turbo's in and it gets more crowded. To me a 'Big' block is over 300 cubic inches, 5 liters or so. Must have been a deadline or something, but he sure didn't clarify anything. (just my opinion?) Thanks for that piece of humor this morning. And Larry has it just right again. Lifetime and durability are designed in to the engine from the start. RonB
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #6 – January 31, 2021, 06:11:16 pm You guys are party poopers 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #7 – January 31, 2021, 06:46:20 pm Quote from: Don Malpas - January 31, 2021, 06:11:16 pmYou guys are party poopersShow us something that will bolt in without extensive modifications and withstand the stresses of towing.The 6.8L V10 was never given the high-performance treatment, other than exhausts and tuning chips, AFAIKFord built a durable truck engine and, from 2000 on, the two-valve V10 produced the same 305-HP through the rest of its production, only modified to increase its lifespan.The narrowness of the E450's engine compartment limits what can fit. It was originally designed for smaller engines.The three-valve, V10, used in Ford's Class A, F53 chassis produced 365-HP, the engine's larger heads accommodate the third intake valve, the head's extra width prevents it from fitting in the E450's engine's compartment. To make it fit would require shrinking the limited interior footroom even more, that or increasing the width of the cab.We are stuck with what we have, after exhaust and tuning mods. Ordering a new LD is one way of getting more power and even then, the E450 gets the low-performance 7.2L V8. The higher-performance engines from Ford's trucks may be a bolt-in option.I still yern for Powerstroke diesel.Larry 5 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #8 – January 31, 2021, 08:45:59 pm Quote from: Larry W - January 31, 2021, 06:46:20 pmShow us something that will bolt in without extensive modifications and withstand the stresses of towing.There isn't anything that can.Quote from: Larry W - January 31, 2021, 06:46:20 pmWe are stuck with what we have, after exhaust and tuning mods. Ordering a new LD is one way of getting more power and even then, the E450 gets the low-performance 7.2L V8. The higher-performance engines from Ford's trucks may be a bolt-in option.I still yern for Powerstroke diesel.I am sure the Ford 446 cubic-inch (7.3 litre) displacement Godzilla V8 will prove to be a better performing engine in an E450 MH than the 415 cubic inch (6.8 litre) displacement V10. The only question now is how long will Ford keep the E-Series Cutaway alive. As far as Powerstrokes, Ford only offers three now and only one would be appropriate in an E450 (if it could even fit, which I doubt); that would be the Ford 6.7 Powerstroke Scorpion 406 cubic-inch 6.7 litre 32-valve V8 with a single, variable-geometry twin-scroll turbocharger. The other two wouldn't cut it. One can dream. Ford has been busy improving the Transit Cutaway and now offers it with AWD but no diesel engine for 2021.Long ago we had a diesel Peugeot wagon. Diesel now with DEF no longer appeals to me. People are now seeking out pre-DEF diesel Sprinters to convert given all the DEF issues.Charles 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #9 – February 01, 2021, 09:17:40 am I just checked the Banks performance website and they dont have a tuner for the 7.3 godzilla engine for a motorhome. Given the amount of work Gale Banks has done on that engine, with one of them putting out over 1000hp on stock internals, they will probably have something soon. 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #10 – February 01, 2021, 09:52:32 am My seat of the pants evaluation between the V-10 and the 7.3 V-8 in the same size/weight LD rear bath is that the extra power is very noticeable. 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #11 – February 01, 2021, 01:36:08 pm Folks, I started this post as a joke. Around the campfire is not for serious stuff.I might put on a Banks exhaust, but not anything else. Does anyone think they can squeeze more out of an engine without shortening its life? I defer to Ford. And that's my final answer.PS Mike I am going to swap engines with you. 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #12 – February 01, 2021, 02:12:07 pm "Ford has been busy improving the Transit Cutaway and now offers it with AWD but no diesel engine for 2021."---No diesel, but the gas option is the Eco-Boost engine (comparison specs on the fleet site); the Eco-Boost is equipped with "auto stop-start". The video offers a brief explanation, plenty long enough to convince me that I would prefer not to have the "feature". I *think* it can be manually button-disabled on a ride-by-ride basis; IOW, it kicks on each time the van is started?https://owner.ford.com/support/how-tos/vehicle-features/energy-efficiency-and-fueling/auto-start-stop-technology.html# 1 Likes
Re: Who Will Be The First? Reply #13 – February 01, 2021, 02:39:22 pm PS Mike I am going to swap engines with you.Don, when you and Dorothy come here to visit I am padlocking the shop and disabling the vehicle lift. Mater of fact, I have lots of room to hide Villa Verde from you. :-) 2 Likes
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