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Frame separation on sliding window
Has anyone experienced a sliding window failure like this before? Went to slide open the window on our TK and the frame pulled away from the glass. Looks like no screws are used in the construction. Any recommended adhesive I should use?
Steve
2003TK
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #1 –
I have a 2003 TK; I have not experienced this (fortunately), and I don't recall ever hearing a report of the window frame coming apart. Did opening the window require a lot of force? Are the window tracks clean and lubed so that the window slides easily? The windows are made by Hehr, as far as I know; you might want to call the number on this site for suggestions on how to best repair the frame.

Hehr windows, Hehr International, RV windows
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #2 –
The windows have never moved as easily as our full size windows in the house but I wouldn’t say they are excessively stiff to open. I blame it on my better half since  it happened while I was out and about.😁 I lubed and cleaned the tracks last year as part of my maintenance schedule.
Steve
2003TK
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #3 –
Judging by the red window lock that is the emergency escape window which is made to come out when needed. I am not sure how the system works but obviously something is amiss.
2010 RB "Monty"  & currently: 2021 RB "Villa Verde"
2004 Born Free 26'
1998 Beaver Patriot 33'
1992 Barth Breakaway 28'
1982 Fleetwood Jamboree 23'
1982 Dolphin/Toyota 22'
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #4 –
Wow, never seen that! I recently cleaned my window tracks and lubed them with silicone spay but some of the windows are still a little difficult to open, especially the galley window. I need to relube to see if that helps.  Annually cleaning and lubing windows is going on the maintenance schedule that I’m currently developing.  Let us know what Hehr says if you call them.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #7 –
Quote from: HiLola  - 
Wow, never seen that! I recently cleaned my window tracks and lubed them with silicone spay but some of the windows are still a little difficult to open, especially the galley window. I need to relube to see if that helps.  Annually cleaning and lubing windows is going on the maintenance schedule that I’m currently developing.  Let us know what Hehr says if you call them.
 the galley window

I have never opened this window except to clean it. Here in the West it allows the ever prevalent dust/dirt/sand in which quickly covers the cooking and food prep areas.

Chris

Formerly: 2002 30' IB
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #8 –
Quote from: Mike Coachman  - 
Judging by the red window lock that is the emergency escape window which is made to come out when needed. I am not sure how the system works but obviously something is amiss.
I agree with Mike.  This is the emergency exit window and according to my LD manual is designed to open.  I’ve not tried to exit that window nor have I studied the construction.  In fact, I don’t remember how to actually exit that window either.  Probably something else I should review once again. 
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #9 –
I may be wrong here but the only discernible difference I can see between the windows is that one has a red latch and the others have a black latch.

It seems the only value of the red latch is easy identification in a moment of panic.
Steve
2003TK
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #10 –
I just got off the phone with Lazy Daze. They haven’t seen this issue in the past and suggested calling Lippert who bought Hehr a while back.
Steve
2003TK
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #12 –
Quote from: 73gitane  - 
I may be wrong here but the only discernible difference I can see between the windows is that one has a red latch and the others have a black latch.

It seems the only value of the red latch is easy identification in a moment of panic.

 I looked at that window and agree, no discernible difference from the other large, sliding windows.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #13 –
I talked to Lippert. They didn’t give me much direction but would be glad to sell me a new window. The did speculate that perhaps butyl tape or silicon would be helpful. I think I will stay away from silicon.

They did confirm the only difference between an egress  window and a regular window is the color of the latch. At least I got that cleared up😁
Steve
2003TK
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #14 –
I was going to suggest skipping a call to Lippert because I expected what they told you would be just what they apparently did.

It seems to me that there are two separate issues here, i.e., any difference between the exit window (red latch) and the other window (black latch). As noted, they're the same except for latch color. The other issue - and far more important, IMO - is why the window frame fell apart.

Do try the links posted above; no guarantees, but maybe one or both may offer a repair suggestion.

YMMV, as always.
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #15 –
Thanks Joan, will do. I’ve looked over some and will continue.

Good news is I just fit it back into place and latched it up till a better fix is made. We’ll have to remember that any need for egress will be through the black latched window😁
Steve
2003TK
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #16 –
I think the only reason it’s on the right is so you’re not egressing (is that a word) 🤔 into possible traffic. Glad you found a temporary fix!
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264
 
Re: Frame separation on sliding window
Reply #17 –
The left rear window in my MB opens in the middle of a blank wall.  The right one opens near enough to the ladder that I could reach out and grab it to help me out and down.  Is that why it is designated the emergency exit?  Your guess is as good as mine.

Ken F in NM
'08 MB