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Furnace Use
When using the Suburban propane wall furnace, should a vent be kept open? There is no open flame inside the coach so I’m thinking it’s not necessary. It’s counter productive to have a vent or window open when you’re trying to heat a space but, then again, I don’t want to asphyxiate myself! I am reading the manual in that section and there are no warnings to ventilate while the furnace is in operation.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #1
The furnace vents to the outside.
You can go out there and put your hand near the exhaust and feel some heat.
Jota
96 23.5 FL

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Reply #2
Not too near, or you might get scorched. That exhaust is hot!
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

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Reply #3
Safe to run the space heater. It draws in outside air, combusts propane, and exhausts it. The heat exchanger in the heater draws in cold air from inside, heats it and blows it out the round vents. Don't run the oven, or burners of the stove top without having a small vent open. I open the fantastic vent fan about an 1/8" . That is plenty of ventilation, just while I'm cooking.
    For added entertainment, I have a Carbon Monoxide detector with a digital readout. Slow to respond, but it will have a reading if you have the stove top burners on without extra ventilation. It will actually alarm quickly. (ask me how I know). RonB
RonB (Bostick) living in San Diego
Original owner of "Bluebelle" a '99 TKB

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Reply #4
It is always a good idea to have a carbon monoxide detector in the rare event that you develop a leak in the furnace heat exchanger, or any other other source of CO.

Art
Art and Barbara
Settled in Atterdag Village of Solvang
2015-2022 fulltime in a 2016 Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP
2002-2015 2002 LD MB
Art's blog

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Reply #5
Great advise.

Propane Gas has proven to be a great companion for campers.  With a caveat!

Always make sure your gas detectors are working properly by testing them EVERY TIME before your trip. 

Stuff happens: like after using the cook-top stove,  left one of the gas burners slightly open without a flame!   

Or after using the stove top on a very low setting, the burner went out.

Before retiring for the night, we try always to insure that ALL the  stove burners are in full off position, water pump is off, and the small electric heater (if using) is positioned in a way not to burn us out.

Sounds like one of my experiences. 

Cheers!

Tony R (aka codefour)
Tony R
2010 LD RB - Sold to another happy LD Family

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Reply #6
Since the furnace uses a heat exchanger, neither exhaust gases nor intake air will enter the coach unless a window or door is open in proximity to the furnace ports. For a 2017 rig it would be safe to say the heat exchanger is unlikely to have been compromised due to rust-out or age-related failure. However, though the furnace can bring up the inside temperature faster than most other methods, it is highly inefficient in propane usage, and also a significant draw on your 12V resource. A good catalytic heater DOES vent and draw inside, but CO output is low, and only a small amount of venting is needed. Efficiency is very high, but heat is low and radiant, so best for maintaining interior comfort.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit

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Reply #7
Great advise.

Propane Gas has proven to be a great companion for campers.  With a caveat!

Always make sure your gas detectors are working properly by testing them EVERY TIME before your trip. 

And replace your LP and CO detectors every 7 to 10 years.  Smoke detectors every 5-7.  These items age out and are a small expense to replace compared to not working properly when you need them to. 

On a lighter note, a flatulent pet makes an excellent LP detector tester....

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Reply #8
To Michelle C..... Amen to that one!!  And Off, etc.
2005 RB

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Reply #9
Michelle, that explains a lot, and I don't have a pet...  :-)

Ken F in NM
'08 MB

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Reply #10
Stuff happens: like after using the cook-top stove,  left one of the gas burners slightly open without a flame!   

For those traveling with kids or grandkids - the stove knobs are just the right height for little hands. 

My daughter, when she was 4 (now 13), would play kitchen and once 'turned on' the stove.  The propane alarm properly sounded a short time later, for which I was grateful. 

Rich
2003 MB

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Reply #11
When I was looking at photos of people’s LD’s, and there was a photo of the stove, I could never figure out why one of the knobs was twisted the wrong way. I didn’t realize that it was the spark igniter, something that my ‘85 did not have.
Greg & Victoria
2017 Mid-Bath  “Nocona” towing a manual 2015 Forester
Previously a 1985 TK
SKP #61264

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Reply #12
"...a flatulent pet makes an excellent LP detector tester..."

Or most aerosols, such as women's hair spray, or a gas match with flame blown out!   ;)
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!

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Reply #13
"Stuff happens:"

Like casually leaning against the stove and silently turning on the gas. It's happened to me more than once over the years. Scary! These RV stoves lack a flame sensor, a vital safety feature that prevents gas from flowing to a burner unless it's lit. That's one reason I replaced the stoves in my most recent rigs with marine stoves that have a flame sensor.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

 
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We use the CO Experts Carbon Monoxide alarm in our LD when we travel in it.  I am a pilot and fly in cold weather.  To keep the cabin warm the heater in the plane uses air baffled from the muffler and if there is a leak it will be in the cabin right away, you need to know if small amounts are presents.  The CO Experts is the most recommended detector for airplanes especially for long trips when small amounts of CO can build up in your blood till you reach saturation.  The CO Experts warns you when 5 ppm are present, most alarms start at 40 to 50 ppm.  We want to  know!

     Karen~Liam
       98 ~ MB
         NinA
1998 ~ MB  WanderDaze
previously a 1984 Winnebago itaska- The Road Warrior, before that several VW Buses and before that a 1965 Chrysler Convertible Newport or our 1969 Chrysler La Barron with an ice box and a couple sleeping bags