Re: Resealing the roof Reply #25 – August 13, 2019, 09:13:44 am "He hates Eternabond and said he has seen many rigs with problems because it was not installed correctly."---It's true, at least from my experience, that not all Eternabond roof jobs are done correctly; once in a while, this may be due to a defect in the product itself, e.g., "no-stick" adhesive, but, IMO, an "incorrect installation" is most often due to inadequate or improper surface preparation.Eternabond, whether it's applied correctly or not, is very difficult and time-consuming to remove completely; I'm pretty sure that this is the main reason that Vince "hates" E-bond.
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #26 – August 13, 2019, 11:59:20 am Quote from: schafir - August 13, 2019, 03:14:42 amHe hates Eternabond and said he has seen many rigs with problems because it was not installed correctly.He hates Eternabond because it's so hard to remove if future repairs need to be made.Larry
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #27 – August 15, 2019, 07:57:13 am I spoke to Vince yesterday about a complete reseal on my 2004 MB 26.5. Mine was garage kept and roof is in great shape. He said a complete reseal was 4k....they work by the hour and replace all 14 inch openings with new fantastic fans, new covers for shower, escape hatch, fridge etc. He also said it will be Feb before I can get an appt because they are so busy. I an now considering doing the vents, covers,rack railings, antennas, solar and fantastic fans myself and just let them do the side covers. I have installed fans and covers before and a brunch of scraping and proper prep work doesn't scare me. I so much wanted them to do the work. I just can't stop my head from spinning on the 4k estimate and having to drive out in Feb when there is salt/snow on the roads...I need to call back and ask how much for the side rail caps.
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #28 – August 18, 2019, 12:35:57 am Larry, we have one of those roof vent covers over our fantastic fan. I like the idea but have not bothered to place one over the other vents.The simple vent that was put in when the swamp box was removed - no roof vent cover - got damaged by a freak hail storm, but it a fairly easy replace.
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #29 – August 18, 2019, 01:36:41 am I also covered my escape hatch with Eternabond. Figured if Hail hits, it will survive. Plan on covering air cooler with Etherbond also. Retired..need something to do. Bought a large roll when I was in Vegas in June. Love the stuff!Regards.
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #30 – August 18, 2019, 01:44:37 pm One owner's/member's view of roof resealing:The subject of roof resealing has come up numerous times over the years. The advantages and disadvantages of using Eternabond in lieu of the current product that the factory uses, namely Locktite's Polyurethane PL Window Door & Siding, has been debated, ad nauseam. Many owners have made the decision to switch to Eternabond in spite of the fact that the factory, particularly, Vince "hates the stuff" and are perfectly happy with their decision. Some members claim to have been told that the factory will not work on a LD roof that has had Eternabond installed. This may be a non-issue for the LD owner who lives far from the factory in California and likely will never return to the west coast for any repairs. I have owned two LD's over the years, my first was a 26.5 RB that I had the factory reseal the roof with their recommended polyurethane product. Of course, they did an excellent job. The cost was not cheap at that time, but it was less than what the factory now charges. As others have said, the factory now replaces all the fans, vents, and roof covers but that was not the case years ago. This undoubtedly, along with the increase in labor costs, accounts for the high price of a factory reseal of the roof. My second and current LD is a 2007 30 TB. I am fortunate to live within 25 miles of the factory and and took it to Vince for a quote at the end of last year. Vince explained his reasoning for wanting to replace all the fans, vents and covers and gave me his caution against using Eternabond. I had previously installed a new fantastic fan in the bedroom area (that site came with only a vent back in 2007) plus I had a new AC unit installed in 2011. I mentioned that to Vince but that did not disway him from still wanting to replace everything. He pointed out that it is mainly the labor intensive costs, not the materials that drive the cost. "It's not rocket science," Vince pointed out and added, "you can do it yourself or hire someone else to do it." I then spoke with Larry Wade, here on this forum, and inquired if he is still resealing roofs. He declined, saying that he gave that up years ago but he did confirm that it wasn't rocket science. In conclusion, I made the decision to hire a local young man with a "young back" to reseal my roof using the factory sealant. From my perspective, this decision gave me the ability to use the the factory recommended sealant without limiting any future potential factory repairs. In short, I used cheaper labor than what the factory uses. I found a local young man that used to work for Giant RV and now owns his own Auto/RV Detailing business. The name of the business is Pinnacle Auto Care - Mobile RV Detailing. The owner's name is Victor Garcia. Victor serves the local San Gabriel Valley area. I really like him and he did a conscientious, thorough job. I had him use the factory sealant and also had him replace all the exterior roof vents and covers including the AC shroud, but not the fan motors themselves. The parts are easily ordered through Amazon. Other owners may choose to have someone with Eternbond experience install Eternabond, but the ease of removal of the polyurethane is another reason I chose to stay with the factory sealant. I highly recommend Pinnacle, but for others that reside far from the San Gabriel Valley in Southern California, find someone with similar experience by asking around RV repair places or do an internet search in your area.YMMV,Gary 2 Likes
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #31 – August 18, 2019, 02:21:09 pm Gary, how long did it take Pinnacle to do your roof reseal?
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #32 – August 18, 2019, 02:35:21 pm "Some members claim to have been told that the factory will not work on a LD roof that has had Eternabond installed."Guilty as charged! But the caveat is that regardless if the roof seams have Eternabond they WILL work on any other part, vents, A/C, etc. I just recently had that done. Vince removed and reinstalled my original MaxxAir fans (5) and even installed (a customer provided) one that needed replacement (although company policy calls for Fantastic as a replacement). All in all I was/am quite satisfied! 1 Likes
Re: Resealing the roof Reply #33 – August 18, 2019, 03:31:43 pm He worked alone (he decided against having a helper) and it took about 3-4 days. He was waiting on some shipments of roof vents and AC shroud. Also, because of our unpredictable weather, rain interrupted the work, I paid extra to move my RV to indoor storage to let it fully cure.Gary
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