Space X - Satellite broadband February 14, 2018, 09:53:10 pm If Space X is successful with the plan described in the following link, it might be a great help to those traveling to remote areas.First Space X Broadband Satellites Near Launch | DSLReports, ISP InformationIf Space X can launch the biggest rocket in the history of such stuff, then I'm hopeful Space X and Elon Musk can create this type of broadband. 1 Likes
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #1 – February 14, 2018, 10:01:25 pm Reach will be good, but latency will be an issue. It will be tolerable, unless you're a 'gamer'.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #2 – February 15, 2018, 01:45:49 am Quote from: Chip Chester - February 14, 2018, 10:01:25 pmReach will be good, but latency will be an issue. It will be tolerable, unless you're a 'gamer'. Many years ago I used Hughes Satellite internet which did have pretty long latency because it used geostationary satellites (over 22,000 miles up). But what I have read about the proposed SpaceX system is that they expect round trip latencies on the order of 25 msec, because the satellites are in much lower orbits. This is in the same range as traditional terrestrial links.Art
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #3 – February 15, 2018, 11:08:06 am Yup, just read that article, and scurried over here to make amends. Clearly, traditional assumptions about anything Elon is involved in can be a hazardous slip-up. Non-geostationary is the key. Allows data path to be low and fast. Making cheap-to-fly re-useable 10-satellite launchers is the other one. (Making billions by selling PayPal to E-Bay is another.)SpaceX hits two milestones in plan for low-latency satellite broadband | Ars... 3 Likes
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #4 – February 18, 2018, 08:31:24 pm SpaceX is at it again. They are launching the first two demo satellites of their broadband project from Vandenberg AFB, scheduled for Wednesday morning at 6:17. We should have a great view of the launch from our location!SpaceX to launch demo satellites for its high-speed internet project - Feb....
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #5 – February 18, 2018, 08:58:44 pm Thanks for the tip. I will be on the lookout from my house. Hopefully it will be a clear morning.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #6 – February 18, 2018, 09:01:12 pm Quote from: Robin B - February 18, 2018, 08:58:44 pmThanks for the tip. I will be on the lookout from my house. Hopefully it will be a clear morning.Aw, I see you are from my old stomping grounds. You should have an excellent view, weather permitting!
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #7 – February 21, 2018, 08:56:13 am Quote from: HiLola - February 18, 2018, 08:31:24 pmSpaceX is at it again. They are launching the first two demo satellites of their broadband project from Vandenberg AFB, scheduled for Wednesday morning at 6:17. We should have a great view of the launch from our location!SpaceX to launch demo satellites for its high-speed internet project - Feb....Launch was delayed until tomorrow:PAZ Mission | SpaceX
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #8 – February 22, 2018, 09:47:49 am Successful launch this morning. We had a pretty good view from a site just above our property. The rocket will be deploying two demo micro-satellites for the SpaceX broadband project.Did you see it, Robin?
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #9 – December 19, 2018, 10:32:33 am This is an updated report on this project, which is dang exciting IMO. Article is dated 12/18/18.SpaceX sending 7,000 satellites into orbit to provide cheap, fast wireless...The article reported that the company has been approved to launch 12,000 low-orbit satellites. I'm hopeful that this happens in the very near future. The possibility of full-time Internet service nearly everywhere is very exciting.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #10 – December 20, 2018, 11:36:46 pm And then with sights set slightly lower, is Google's Project Loon. This will use high altitude balloons to provide Internet connectivity:Project Loon 2018I've tracked some of these over N. Calif when Google was testing 'trial balloons' at around 67,000.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #11 – December 31, 2018, 12:20:20 pm So... while we await Elon Musk’s execution of these satellites... what is the best way to get internet access? Hughes sounds slow. Maybe this is a new string? I tried looking at archived strings and could not find anything myself. Happy to learn what is most reliable for those already using internet, especially in remote areas of the West. Tina
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #12 – January 01, 2019, 12:27:00 am "Happy to learn what is most reliable for those already using internet, especially in remote areas of the West."Most RVers I know use Verizon for internet. They have the best LTE/4G (fast) coverage, especially in the West and Southwest where AT&T is sparse. The only place where AT&T's coverage beats Verizon's is in parts of the Pacific Northwest. As for Sprint and T-Mobile, they are usable in cities, but out in the boonies you're not likely to find their signals. The very useful "Coverage?" app makes it easy to find and compare all the carriers on a US map, so you can see the differences for yourself.Just because there's coverage in a given location doesn't mean there will be a strong signal, of course. A cell signal booster and external antenna are very useful things to have on hand. One popular and affordable model is the WeBoost (formerly Wilson) Sleek. It can't get a signal where there is none, but it can take a weak signal and boost it to a usable level. As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #13 – January 01, 2019, 10:30:18 pm Also, check out Verizon's new prepaid unlimited hotspot plan. $70 an month ($65 with autopay) for truly unlimited. It does not cap at 22GB, or anywhere. Only limitation is you are lowest priority on the cell tower you are working off of (network management), so "speeds may be slowed in times of congestion". Their postpaid hotspot plan caps at 15 or 22 GB and then it throttles you to an unusable speed for the rest of the month.I got it 2 months ago and have been using it at home for netflix streaming, youtube, email, LD forum, etc. I used up about 100GB the first month with no issue whatever.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #14 – January 02, 2019, 10:48:40 am Quote from: LindaB - January 01, 2019, 10:30:18 pmAlso, check out Verizon's new prepaid unlimited hotspot plan. $70 an month ($65 with autopay) for truly unlimited. It does not cap at 22GB, or anywhere. Only limitation is you are lowest priority on the cell tower you are working off of (network management), so "speeds may be slowed in times of congestion". Their postpaid hotspot plan caps at 15 or 22 GB and then it throttles you to an unusable speed for the rest of the month.I got it 2 months ago and have been using it at home for netflix streaming, youtube, email, LD forum, etc. I used up about 100GB the first month with no issue whatever.Linda, are you using this Vzn plan to replace a broadband Internet service such as Century Link or Xfinity? If so, are you satisfied with service and speeds?Chris
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #15 – January 02, 2019, 11:52:09 am I can't find the original posts from the Wizard who first mentioned the ATT Rural Home Phone & Internet a couple of years ago--just my subsequent comments, but I made the jump in August of 2017 & have been satisfied with the service, despite a few hiccups with the phone.For $60/month I get a small router that I plug into a wall jack (after disconnecting the incoming ATT plug on the outside of the house), and all my touch tone phones are operable (sadly, the rotary phones in the basement that still worked with the ATT landline are now definitely relics, so I can't amaze the 9 & 5 y/o granddaughters with those, but they do think it's a hoot to use the receiver & push buttons on the touch tone phone in the LD). The router serves as a wifi hotspot for the 250 gig internet service; I don't know about speed/etc., since I've not used it for Netflix/etc. (I get more TV than I need with Direct TV, which I need to get the local stations out of the Kansas City metro for local news/weather). The power pin seems to be a proprietary size, since I've not been able to find a 12v adaptor like I used in the LD with the Walmart Straight Talk phone-only router I previously used (I was told that was technically on the Vn system, & I had great coverage with that)--ATT has no adaptors, since they don't intend for this to be mobile (except you can use it anywhere you can plug into 120v service, so I just plug into the power strip from the inverter that the TV plugs into). As far as coverage, I've not been to the SW since getting this system, but I've got service at the farm six mile out of town, all the way south through ARK to a state park on a Louisiana Gulf Coast barrier island, and all through rural KS/OK/TX as I made my bi-monthly sojourns to help out with the granddaughters in Texas last fall. Even if I someday move into the 21st century & get a smartphone, I'd likely keep this for the internet, since it was cheaper than any other provider in my area, plus it goes whither I goest.Lynne
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #16 – January 02, 2019, 06:59:21 pm Quote from: Chris Horst - January 02, 2019, 10:48:40 amLinda, are you using this Vzn plan to replace a broadband Internet service such as Century Link or Xfinity? If so, are you satisfied with service and speeds?ChrisChris,I haven't done speed checks, but I'm able to surf the net and stream movies and youtube without buffering. Instant on. I'm not yet using it to replace Xfinity, but I probably will soon. I got the plan now to test it out and to make sure I have something for when I go on the road. I want to be grandfathered in before they change it, like they seem to do every year or so.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #17 – January 02, 2019, 07:01:34 pm Quote from: Lynne Broyles-Greenwood - January 02, 2019, 11:52:09 amI can't find the original posts from the Wizard who first mentioned the ATT Rural Home Phone & Internet a couple of years ago--just my subsequent comments, but I made the jump in August of 2017 & have been satisfied with the service, despite a few hiccups with the phone.For $60/month I get a small router that I plug into a wall jack (after disconnecting the incoming ATT plug on the outside of the house), and all my touch tone phones are operable (sadly, the rotary phones in the basement that still worked with the ATT landline are now definitely relics, so I can't amaze the 9 & 5 y/o granddaughters with those, but they do think it's a hoot to use the receiver & push buttons on the touch tone phone in the LD). The router serves as a wifi hotspot for the 250 gig internet service; I don't know about speed/etc., since I've not used it for Netflix/etc. (I get more TV than I need with Direct TV, which I need to get the local stations out of the Kansas City metro for local news/weather). The power pin seems to be a proprietary size, since I've not been able to find a 12v adaptor like I used in the LD with the Walmart Straight Talk phone-only router I previously used (I was told that was technically on the Vn system, & I had great coverage with that)--ATT has no adaptors, since they don't intend for this to be mobile (except you can use it anywhere you can plug into 120v service, so I just plug into the power strip from the inverter that the TV plugs into). As far as coverage, I've not been to the SW since getting this system, but I've got service at the farm six mile out of town, all the way south through ARK to a state park on a Louisiana Gulf Coast barrier island, and all through rural KS/OK/TX as I made my bi-monthly sojourns to help out with the granddaughters in Texas last fall. Even if I someday move into the 21st century & get a smartphone, I'd likely keep this for the internet, since it was cheaper than any other provider in my area, plus it goes whither I goest.LynneI would have gone with this one, but you had to be in the correct zip code to get it, and I wasn't able to find it anywhere as a current plan.
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #18 – January 03, 2019, 12:45:58 am Thank you all for weighing in. This is very helpful. I will look into Verizon, and likely get the antenna too.Truly looking forward to those satellites though. Someday...Thanks again for the advice. Tina
Re: Space X - Satellite broadband Reply #19 – January 03, 2019, 06:22:52 am Quote from: LindaB - January 02, 2019, 07:01:34 pmI would have gone with this one, but you had to be in the correct zip code to get it, and I wasn't able to find it anywhere as a current plan.Yes, I got really lucky by seeing it on the LDO site. No advertising about it up here in the boonies, & when I went into the local ATT store they didn't know anything about it--I took in the info from LDO & they had to call into their corporate office somewhere...apparently I was the first person to inquire about it, & though I've talked it up to other folks I know around here, when I've talked to the folks I know at the store, they've not had anyone else take advantage.
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