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Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
I've decided it's time to invest in a tire pressure monitoring system. It appears from this discussion that Doran, Eez, & TST are three possibilities.  However, since this thread is 3 years old, I thought I should ask if there are others that folks are using now and/or if you have more recent experience with TPMSs that I should consider.  Thanks for your thoughts.
Susie
2007 MB
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Reply #1 –
Seeking the same overview update as well.  Time for new tires, valve extension solution, TPMS for 8-10. That is, after I settle my Alcoa rim recall issue...
2000 Front Lounge
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Reply #2 –
We’ve been using the Tire Minder TM66 for 2 1/2 years now. This unit has a repeater that I placed in the cubby above the sink in our RB.

The Tire Minder is reliable and gives warnings on Tire Pressure, Slow Leaks, Sudden Pressure Drops, Temperature and Loss Of Signal.

The dash mounted monitor has a cradle that I place on the dog house. Keeping its mini antenna extended at all times. I set the front tires at 55-60 lbs and the rear sets at 70 lbs. The monitor “beeps” ocassionally to let me know the Tire temp has risen to 80 lbs. no worries there.

The Sensors are mounted to the rear dually’s via the “Borge” valve stems I purchased at Borge and installed at Allen Tire ($60 for the installation of the rear stems-no change to the front OEM stems).

I would like “flow through” sensors so I could check/add air without removing each sensor. No a big deal, really, just something I’d rather avoid.

I purchased the TM66 at Camping World for $325. The TM77 is the new version of the TM66, I believe. Get ready to drop about $500 for the TPMS, Valve Stems and their installation. It’s money well spent.

Here’s a YouTube video on Tire Minder. https://youtu.be/FA1ZHbWcEnc

The peace of mind knowing your tires are being monitored is worth every penny.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
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Reply #3 –
Thanks Kent, that’s great info and appreciate knowing the cost of unit and install costs. I can start watching to see if it goes on sale soon 👍🐯
Nov 2023, 2012 31’ IB, white/green swoops & swirles, 2009 Mini Cooper, racing green convertible, toad 🐸

We ordered white/gray  2018 27' mid bath 1/3/18 and we are hoping for a July 16th 2019 delivery, sold, and tried a Lithium Travato, wish  I would have kept the Lazy Daze 27’
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Reply #4 –
Kent, here's a detail question: Are the stem extensions supported in some manner on the way from the inner wheel? Thinking centrifugal force would cause them to splay out.  And the tire monitors would seem to aggravate the matter.

I'm guessing you've never hung your head out the side door to take a look, though...
2000 Front Lounge
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Reply #5 –
Chip,

Yes the stem from the inside dually is supported by an oval rubber boot/flange that allows the stem to be centered between the inner and outer dually.
If you look closely to the enlarged valve/sensor pic, you can make out the rubber boot which fits in the rim of the tire.

Included also is a picture of a Borge valve kit. My rubber support boot/flange is oval. The rim determines the kit you will need. Either Borge or Allen Tire or The Tire Man will help you choose the correct kit.

The sensors are about the diameter and size of a 16 ounce water bottle cap and aren’t heavy at all. I’ve had no issues with the stems or the sensors since I had them installed back in 2015.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
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Reply #6 –
Split this out of the Yahoo Archive board.  Best to start new topics rather than adding to one in the Archive.
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Reply #7 –
Quote from: sdever2000  - 
I've decided it's time to invest in a tire pressure monitoring system. It appears from this discussion that Doran, Eez, & TST are three possibilities.  However, since this thread is 3 years old, I thought I should ask if there are others that folks are using now and/or if you have more recent experience with TPMSs that I should consider.  Thanks for your thoughts.
Susie
The Lazy Daze Companion: Tire Pressure Management Systems (TPMS)

This thread in The Companion is from last year.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB
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Reply #8 –
Thanks, Kent, for the detailed review.
Is anyone using Eez-tpms now?  It seems to have good reviews on Amazon.
Susie
2007 MB
Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
Reply #9 –
Installed the EEZ TPMS last November.  Got off amazon.  Already had the extenders so install was simple.  Took some time to understand what was going on with the tires as I don't have any experience with TPMS or large trucks for that matter.  I set my front at 65 and rear at 70.  At first seemed crazy that the pressure (and temp) could rise so much when in use but after asking on this forum folks informed me that is normal.  I really like them now that I have the upper/lower limits set correctly.  Able to see pressure and temp in real time is reassuring.
2006 RK
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Reply #10 –
Quote from: sdever2000  - 
Thanks, Kent, for the detailed review.
Is anyone using Eez-tpms now?  It seems to have good reviews on Amazon.
Susie

We have been using it for four years and are happy with it. At the time it had the biggest display which we like. Additionally, the monitor has a user replaceable rechargeable battery.

Jim
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Reply #11 –
Just poking about on Amazon to see what they have to offer in the way of TPMS especially their Tire Minder offerings since that’s what we have.

I found a Tire Minder Flow Through Adapter that allows you to use your existing “Non-Flow Through” Sensors and be able to add/check tire pressure without having to remove the existing sensor once the adapter was in place. 🤗 I’m so excited! At $30 for two. Now I won’t have to get a flow through sensor and simply trash my existing ones. 😫 [Edit: Tire Minder does not make a Flow Throw Sensor at all and this adapter serves the same purpose].

Just noticed Amazon has a very limited supply, however Tire Minder at Minder Research also sells them at the same price (2 for $29.99). TireMinder Flow-Through Adapter (2-Pack) - Minder Research

Here’s a shot of the adapter and some details about it.

Who knew, right?

Kent 
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
Reply #12 –
Kent,
If you buy the flow through extensions, it would be great to hear your opinion of them!
2002 M-23 Twin King & 2016 Subaru Forester tow car
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Reply #13 –
Soon enough. You can count on it. Except for the added length to the valve stem it looks like a real winner, especially for those of us with few other affordable upgrade options.  At $15 a wheel, it is pretty reasonably priced.

Done! Just placed my order for 3 sets of 2...and a whole 3 cent shipping charge. Gotta love it.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
Reply #14 –
Kent,
Do you presently leave your Tireminder sensors powered and on the valve stems all the time or do you remove the batteries from the sensors when not using the rig?  How many months do you get from a sensor battery?
2002 M-23 Twin King & 2016 Subaru Forester tow car
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Reply #15 –
In late 2008 The options were more limited.  I went with a PressurePro TPMS.  All it tells me is the tire pressure, but it has done so very reliably.  I had one sensor out of 10 fail about 7 years in, and it was replaced under warranty.  At about 8 years, the sensor batteries were getting weak, as evidenced by some of the sensors being slow to be detected on startup in cold weather.  I didn't even think about a different system.  I replaced the sensors, and continue to be happy with them.

Ken F in OR
'08 MB
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Reply #16 –
I bought the TST 507 & 10 sensors before taking delivery on the LD  4/14.
I also bought a box of 50 of these flow thru caps  when they were about double the cost of 10.   I have found the sensors to consistently read 2-3 psi below what both manual and electronic gauges show.  I don't see it as a problem as I am monitoring for sudden changes.  It's interesting to watch the temperature differences between the sunny and shady sides of the rig going down the road.  I've had one sensor die of old age,   another went in a blowout that rattled the skirt, and two more scraped off the tow'd in a car wash (que the 'next time I do that will be a mistake' lesson).  

Generally satisfied all around.   I replaced all the batteries before heading to Quartzite Jan, 18.   That said,  after seeing the Tireminder at Q and listening around the campfire,  if I had to get another,  I'd go for the Tireminder.

YMMV
Joel
Joel & Terry Wiley
dog Zeke
2013  31 IB   Orwan   / 2011 CRV Tow'd LWEROVE
Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
Reply #17 –
Our Doran 360 is still working fine after five years, except for a couple of sensors that died.
It's hardwired to keep the monitoring part of the receiver on, tracking the tire pressure, even when the ignition is off, providing immediate readouts as soon as the ignition if turned on. It draws little power in this mode..
The sensors are left on the LD's tires year round. The sensors are removed from the Jeep, when at home.
Removing the sensors doesn't seem to make much of a difference in battery life.
The lack of air-through sensors hasn't been too big a deal, only needing to add air 3 or 4 times a year. The tires are filled 5-psi over the recommended pressure to delay refilling.
A booster is used to monitor the inner dually sensors, the Jeep can be parked fifty feet away and still be readable.
My biggest complaint is the settable pressure ranges are too narrow, resulting in occasional low pressure reading in the morning or high pressure warning on hot days.

A TPMS is a peace of mind device that adds the great convenience of fast, from the seat driver's seat, tire pressures readings .

Larry


Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
Reply #18 –
Quote from: Kent Heckethorn  - 

I found a Tire Minder Flow Through Adapter that allows you to use your existing “Non-Flow Through” Sensors and be able to add/check tire pressure without having to remove the existing sensor once the adapter was in place. 🤗 I’m so excited! At $30 for two. Now I won’t have to get a flow through sensor and simply trash my existing ones. 😫 [Edit: Tire Minder does not make a Flow Throw Sensor at all and this adapter serves the same purpose].

If you are using the adapters, make sure the added length of the extenders doesn't cause the TPMS sensors to stick out too far.
Our LD has Tireman extenders and adding a 1-1/2" to the front extender's length would have the sensors sticking out pass the edge of the tires.
Our Jeep would also have the same problem.
I also worry about possible stress on the extended stems from the added length and possible leaks from the extra connections.
IMO, snapping a stem off is a lot more inconvenient than occasionally adding air.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
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Reply #19 –
Larry,

Extending past the tires edge is a consideration. More of an issue with the front wheel set than the dually’s as the rear valve stems are set back inside the rim quite a bit.

While I did buy the “flow throughs” for all six tires, I believe I will leave the front tires as is and contend with the removal of those sensors when physically checking/filling them. [Edit: Looking at the top photo I posted the other day shows the sensor just inside the tire cover of the front wheel. With that in mind, perhaps the flow throughs will work there as well...we shall see].

Thanks,

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
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Reply #20 –
I installed the Tire Minder Flow Through Valve adapters this morning.

After a little thought, I was able to work my way through the installation with only a few minor adjustments.

First adjustment was figuring out the two valves in the package from Tire Minder. Apparently they set up each valve as they “could be used”.

After I realized I could attach the Sensor facing outward or toward the hub, I set all six so the sensor faced the hub and then secured them with their locking nut.

The rear tires did not require the wheel covers to be removed. The front tires required the covers to be removed as well as the small OEM extension on the tires steel valve.

The front flow through sensors tighten down with the sensors mounting nipple facing the hub. This places the sensor behind the tire cover. That’s nice. Out of sight from prying eyes. Once the cover is back on the wheel you can’t see them. Replacing the sensor battery will require an annual cover and sensor removal. Easy as pie when using a “Tire Spoon”

That’s it. Here are some pics of the installation. I am very pleased. No more hassle filling/checking air. 🤗

Kent

 
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
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Reply #21 –
The sensor connection is a clever idea. I think I would like that better than the flow through valves on our LD. Have you tested it to see if having it tucked down effects the monitor's ability to pick them up? I would think not but you never know.

Jim
Re: Tire pressure monitors - My 1-year use summary
Reply #22 –
Jim,

The front sensors are within about 10 feet of the monitor so I don’t think signal transmission will be an issue. It’s actually nice that they are tucked away as they are now.

The rear sets are nicely centered and will present no problem replacing the batteries when necesssry. The fill valves are easily accessed as well. I’m very pleased with the final outcome.

Here are a couple of pics showing the way the flow through valves came packaged and the configuration needed for our LD’s.

Best $90 I ever spent. I’ll be putting them to the test next week on our drive to Zion.

Kent
2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"
 
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Reply #23 –
Kent,
Thank you for the mini review.  Thanks for all the photos.  They made it very easy to see what comes in the package and how they installed for you.  Informative post!
2002 M-23 Twin King & 2016 Subaru Forester tow car