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Re: Tire Time
Reply #25
I went with the Firestone Transforce when my Michelins failed me.  Belts on the front tires separated.

What a difference!  Much improved ride and handling, plus longer life and less expensive.  What more could you ask for?
2003 MB

Re: Tire Time
Reply #26
I have had good service from multiple sets of Michelin LTX tires in their various evolutions over the last 20 years on a couple of heavy duty trucks, a couple SUVs and the Lazy Daze. I was lucky to miss the recalled tires. About half the sets wore out with good miles on them, about half were replaced due to aging out. The only time I lost air was due to running over screws on the shoulder. 

I like the moderate all weather benefits of the LTX M/S line. I don't seem to get enough miles on any one vehicle anymore to test their 70,000 mile tread life claim. I like the ride and load handling capability,  the low road noise, and the all weather tread and tread compound are decent too. 

I can't see the benefit of paying more than $100 more per tire for the XPS RIB. The information I see on the RIB is that it is a harder compound, not a good winter tire (where we are UPS mounts snow tires in winter), and are re-treadable.  Good for those truck covering high mileage.

I am intrigued by the great reviews of various Toyos, Bridgestones and others. I may give them a try on another truck.

It would be great fun to do a tire swap weekend of various brands and types of tire on our rigs, since they all wear the same shoe size...
Paul
'92 Mid Bath

Re: Tire Time
Reply #27
We had the recalled Michelins replaced via our local Ford dealer about a year after the recall. Always liked Michelins. Had them on the big rig as well before the 4-door Norcold on AC set the coach on fire. The tires survived ;->

We are not heavy users of our replacement RV, a 2013 27-foot RB LD. We appreciate the big tire chains and their convenience, but are watchful and insist on current dates, etc.  s/Terry Apple

Hi Terry,
   I just stumbled upon this thread--  just last weekend, I had just started to research replacing almost six-year-old Michelins on my 2006 LD (purchased by original owners in March 2012, DOT production 4011, so just about at 6 years)  and just by chance happened upon a link to the Michelin recall from December 2013, and sure enough, it includes the tires that have been on the rig since 2012!    I was surprised to say the least that all this time since I bought it six months ago from orig owners I've been driving on recalled tires!  I called Michelin and was told all I needed to do was take it to one of their dealers who, after confirming the tires/codes match the recall criteria, will replace them at no cost.    I called the closest dealer to where I store my rig, America's Tire in San Jose, and made appt with them for next Wednesday for replacement and was told they had six of the Michelin LTX Defenders in stock to put on.      
    I'm still a little wary about this -- was it really that straightforward, Terry, since you've done this already… just in & out with new tires & all on Michelin's dime?    I'm really fortunate I found out about this recall before I leave next month on a 2,500-mile trip up to Oregon/Washington!       Anyone else have experience with replacing recalled Michelins? 
  Anyway, just a heads-up to anyone who might have this vintage Michelins to check these codes/dates below, just in case … because I certainly had no idea!
Daryl
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what's on my rig now:  LT225/75R16 LRE      B3JH AKEX     4011 
 so it matches recall criteria!:    (apparently original owners were not aware of recall!/or didn't' take action?)

   Copied from Michelin's website:  
To find out if a tire is affected by the recall:
Determine if it matches the information below:
     Tire Description   DOT Sequence   DOT Production Periods (Inclusive)
      Michelin LTX M/S LT 225/75R16 115/112R LRE   B3JH AKEX   0210 - 2512
If the information on the sidewall of your tires does not match these identifiers, it is not part of the recall.
If you have any questions concerning the tire's DOT information, please contact Michelin Consumer Care at 1-800-231-5893. -
Daryl 
2007  26.5’ mid-bath, “Blu Tent“
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sport S
  (previously 2006 23.5’ front lounge)
SKP #145689

Re: Tire Time
Reply #28
I too went with Firestone Transforce 5 years ago,  tires still look like new and again, what a ride!

Bob
2007 31 IB

Re: Tire Time
Reply #29
After I purchased my 07 I replaced the tires with Michelin M&S.  I drove it about 10k miles when the recall was announced.  I went to the local Michelin dealer (the place I purchased the tires).  They checked my tires, found that them in the recall batch, and put the new tires on.  No fuss.  I like the M&S II that replaced the tires I had purchased.   They ride and handle better.  It is not often you get to drive new tires back to back.   John
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath

Re: Tire Time
Reply #30
Daryl, the Michelin Defender LTX are fairly new, but I would still make sure that the replacement tires are within an "acceptable" date window and date-matched; I prefer no older than 6 weeks, but YMMV.

Also suggest the following:  check each tire before it's installed for production dates/matching, make sure that the tires are installed with the DOT date code to the outside (the inner duals should be the same dates, so it's not critical to install these with the dates accessible for viewing in the sidewall), remove the wheel covers before having the tires replaced, and check the job carefully after it's done.

Good tire shops can be hard to find; I've dealt with Mike Sanchez at Tire Outlet (901 South Second, SJ; 408-294-1836); fair prices and good service. They ordered the tires within my date range and did the job the way I asked them to. (Another shop with a good rep in SJ is Bruce's Tire.)

Please post your experience after the installation. And, yes, the tires should be replaced free of charge to the consumer.
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Tire Time
Reply #31
And make certain they change the tire stems.  The rubber (whether metal or rubber stems) deteriorates.
2004 26.5 MB
Enjoying retirement traveling, Rzr riding, photography, and of course the 2 grand girls!

Re: Tire Time
Reply #32
A comment/opinion/suggestion (and, as always, YMMV): any valve stems (or extenders) except the long valves from Tireman or "Borg" are pretty much useless; ordering and installing a set appropriate for your specific application will save time, effort, energy, and money over the long run and probably increase the life of your tires because checking the pressures is easy and convenient

Tire-Man: Products

Dually valve kits for Motor-homes, Busses and 6-wheeled chassis

(Also, "rubber" stems, unless they're brass or steel under the rubber, are appropriate only for tire pressures under 65 pounds.)
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Tire Time
Reply #33
thanks all for the feedback & advice!   I've printed out the above to take along to the tire place next week, so I don't forget the suggestions above.   Taking wheel covers off in advance sounds like a great idea too… thanks for that tip also :-)
 
Daryl 
2007  26.5’ mid-bath, “Blu Tent“
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sport S
  (previously 2006 23.5’ front lounge)
SKP #145689

Re: Tire Time
Reply #34
Daryl, the Michelin Defender LTX are fairly new, but I would still make sure that the replacement tires are within an "acceptable" date window and date-matched; I prefer no older than 6 weeks, but YMMV.

Also suggest the following:  check each tire before it's installed for production dates/matching, make sure that the tires are installed with the DOT date code to the outside (the inner duals should be the same dates, so it's not critical to install these with the dates accessible for viewing in the sidewall), remove the wheel covers before having the tires replaced, and check the job carefully after it's done.

Good tire shops can be hard to find; I've dealt with Mike Sanchez at Tire Outlet (901 South Second, SJ; 408-294-1836); fair prices and good service. They ordered the tires within my date range and did the job the way I asked them to. (Another shop with a good rep in SJ is Bruce's Tire.)

Please post your experience after the installation. And, yes, the tires should be replaced free of charge to the consumer.

Quick update:  had the six recalled Michelins replaced this morning at America's Tire in San Jose, in a couple hours at no cost to me.  (DOT dates of 1817, so little over month old)   We checked the spare and it was the original from 2005 & had sidewall cracking (but not part of recall) so i did buy one tire for a spare.  Only issue was one of the outer dually stems (with the curve) was leaking air.  Replaced valve core, but still leaking.   Long story short, since America's Tire doesn't do anything but tires (they had no stems) they referred me to Bruce's Tires, only a mile or so away.  (also your recommendation, JCT!)   they had one of the stem kits (like the kit mentioned above) in stock and so I drove right over there and they had all four rear stems replaced in a little over an hour.   Good guys there! 
    So anyway, new shoes all the way around as well as the rear stems replaced --now good to go for my trip to Oregon & WA next month :-) 
    thanks again for the info & advice!!
Daryl
Daryl 
2007  26.5’ mid-bath, “Blu Tent“
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sport S
  (previously 2006 23.5’ front lounge)
SKP #145689

 
Re: Tire Time
Reply #35
Critical requirements are buying 6 super-fresh, date-matched tires, installing them correctly (including having the tires mounted so the DOT codes are visible on the outside sidewalls), airing to the proper pressures for the coach weight/load, and thoroughly inspecting and accepting the installation before leaving the shop.

To answer a common question that often pops up (in the oft-repeated tire discussions) at this point: yes, new tires can be mounted without removing the long valves from the wheels. Many shops will refuse to do this because it takes a bit more time and certainly more care to mount a new tire on a wheel with a long or U-shaped valve stem, but a good tire shop with competent, trained, careful techs can and will do it right. Frankly, there are a lot of crappy tire shops with poorly-maintained equipment, high turnovers of untrained and often clueless installers, and plenty of aging "shelf stock"; it's up to the rig owner to know what s/he wants and needs and to make sure that the selected shop complies with the requirements.

I think I'm going to get either the Firestone or Goodyear tires suggested further upstream. However, what I'd really like to do is nail down a good tire shop/chain which owners' have had good experiences with. Specifically, an independent shop in the Orange county area and/or a chain store that can provide the type of service mentioned above. We have Tireman valve extenders, so besides getting fresh date stamped tires, we'd like of course so have someone knowledgeable about installing them without damage, etc.
 
TIA for any leads, tips and/or advice.

PS What is considered "super fresh"? Six months old or newer? Also, Allen tire in HB seems to get very good reviews. Anyone have any experience with them?