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Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #25
Yahoo Message Number: 159838
Ken, thank you for you reply, sounds like your LD is a little longer than the 22' I am going to look at, this particular on does not have a dinette but instead 2 recliners across from the couch. My ideal setup would be a island bed but I don't see that in my future. I will be looking at the LD next weekend. Mark

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #26
Yahoo Message Number: 159839
Mark,

Ours is a 27'. Good luck on your hunt. Hope you get what you want soon.

Kent

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2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #27
Yahoo Message Number: 159840
Mark think long and hard about that full time bed.. (Island)  When you have 200-300 square feet of space does it rally make sense to use 30 square feet of it for a full time bed. And it is really more than that as you really lose all the walk space beside the bed, for daytime use. It takes 10 minutes a day to make things a bed and then make it back to living area. I know it seems almost every one starting out thinks they need a bed they need to have a full time bed. However in reality in a smaller RV it is the biggest waste of space you can have.. All to save 10 minutes a day and lose 1/3 or more of your use full space the time you are awake and can actually use the space.

Garry

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #28
Yahoo Message Number: 159841
"sounds like your LD is a little longer than the 22' I am going to look at... My ideal setup would be a island bed but I don't see that in my future."

Well, there's always the 23.5' Island Bed Lazy Daze, which includes a number of innovations. ;-)

Andy Baird
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #29
Yahoo Message Number: 159842
I know what you mean Gary. If money was not an object, to me at this point, I think I would like to have a set up like that but then I am a newbie and have nothing to base that on, I may walk threw this 22' and think that the extra 4' or so that the jump up to the next size would afford, would be nice.
My situation is such that any traveling that I will be doing will be solo. The significant other has quite a few years to go before retiring, either the bad thing about having a younger woman or the bad thing about having an older man, *;) winking I am hoping that this 22' will not have any water damage but I am not optimistic, some painting he did around some lower parts, that I questioned in his pics, makes me suspicious. But their is always another LD, what will be will be.

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #30
Yahoo Message Number: 159843
I know it seems almost every one starting out thinks they need a bed they need to have a full time bed. However in reality in a smaller RV it is the biggest waste of space you can have.

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Some owners don't see having a "down bed" as a waste of space, even in a smaller rig. For some, a permanently made-up bed is a positive feature because it saves them time and energy in converting couches to beds to couches to beds to couches.....

Each person's wants/needs are different; every floor plan likely contains a deal breaker for *somebody*. What one person thinks is a "must have" may not even register on another's list of desirable features. Isn't it good that we have choices? ;-)

As ever, YMMV!

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #31
Yahoo Message Number: 159844
Exactly right.

As I see it, LD has been around so long they have been able to make such a beautiful array of wonder Motor Homes, there is bound to be one out there to satisfy everyone's needs in the Class C group.

My father loved his Class A's. But he also dipped his fingers in TT's, Truck Campers and boats. New, used, young or old there's plenty to choose from.

Ya gotta start somewhere.

Kent

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2015 27' RB "MissB.Haven"


Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #33
Yahoo Message Number: 159846
Our MB is our first RV. Before that we were tent camping from the back of our cars. I went early driving my MINI Cooper with the daughter, dogs and gear. Gina would follow after work with more food and toys for all of us.
When we started a friend commented that floor plans and size would not mater because anything was going to be a lot bigger and we would just grow into the space. Instead we should think hard on how we wanted to use the RV. That road led us to Lazy Daze but we were thinking a 23.5 Twin King. Later our Mid Bath came available and I had at this point been to a few LD meets and knew that this was a good solution for us. Now we leave the beds made up most of the time, but slid apart about 8 inches or so and just use the bath door to close off the area if someone drops in for coffee. Both of us have fun all the time we are camping and It is nice having the beds ready. Of course if we are expecting others the room reverts to our living room.

All that said now that the daughter is increasingly on her own (in grad school), and we are camping more on our own; a Rear Bath would be high on our list because we often have a house full of friends for drinks, dinner or chats when camping. The big open area in the Rear Bath next to the kitchen is nice for a gathering place to swap stories and tell tall tails.

If Mark's find turns out to be in good shape it would be nice escape pod for one or two.
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #34
Yahoo Message Number: 159853
"Well, there's always the 23.5' Island Bed Lazy Daze, which includes a number of innovations. ;-)" Andy, That's fantastic! And to make it even better, when I first opened the link on my phone, the light hit it just right...... I thought the grey was purple. He he

-Rebecca
Rebecca in WA
2016 mid-bath
"Ramirez"


Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #36
Yahoo Message Number: 159866
We have a '93 22' G30 with 454/7.4L; GM went to EFI in '90. One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the relatively low cost of restoring the various engine operating systems.

For example, there are about 7+- smog/operating sensors, some of which used to be expensive, but can now all be had for $25+-. GM made millions upon millions of generic vehicles based on this power train, which is why a complete AC kit (all new parts, pump, compressor, etc) can be had for around $350. Ditto for heater/radiator, etc, etc.

Over the last 4 years, I think I've replaced every possible item except for the engine itself (it has 69k original miles). Every time I take it out, I think to myself (and remark to my poor wife) that the thing runs like a dream. We just got it Calif smogged a few days ago, and the results are pretty telling:

HC: Max 150 Avg 39 Measured 34 CO: Max 1.20 Avg .10 Measured .01

From an operating stand point, this thing charges up the Cajon pass. I usually have to pass on the left if I don't want to get stuck behind either cars or trucks.

As for the LD construction, guaranteed it has water damage. The only question is how extensive, and whether or not you care. Or, if it's limited, whether or not you can or want to do the repair.

LD's might stay dry for 5-7-10 years, but after that, unless the owner is a maintenance hound (like many of the people on this board), time, energy & inclination tend to dissipate. The result is an inevitable leak over the side crown of the overhead, or sometimes down the rear.

We had a small leak over the passenger side overhead, which I repaired (studs, panel and wallpaper match), sealed and buttoned up 3 years ago. The entire rig is now sealed, taped & dry.

From my experience, you can buy a $25k rig, and watch it fall to $15k over 5 years time (or $50k -> $25k). Or, buy a cheap rig, fix & replace to get everything you want right, and try to beat the depreciation. That's what we did.

However, IMO opinion, that only works for the 20'-22'-24' models. The '27 & 31' footers drop like a rock, because after the newness wears off the original owners, they don't have a huge fan base to support a high value used market. On the other hand, the 20, 22 & 24 foot models have a huge fan base - at least here in SoCal, and unless they are completely trashed (or older than 1990), don't sell for anything less than $10k.

We got ours for $5k - it had been sitting for years. We've got $10k into it, so $15k basis. I figure I could sell it over a weekend for $10-12k. If 10k, then $5k over 5 years or $1,000 dollars per year. Not too bad - I don't think it's possible to have a lower cost of ownership.

That being said, we're playing with the idea of getting an (almost) new rig, say a 2014 TK, and make it our last RV. Keep it for 15 years or so, and don't worry about the re-sale value.

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #37
Yahoo Message Number: 159876
We never put the bed back into couch mode in our RB. Only once had 5-6 folks hanging out for a while, and using the bed like a couch. Only downside is not much room to move between bed and chairs.

Jay Carlson
Jay Carlson
2003  LD RB
2005 Bigfoot 40MH35LX
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Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #39
Yahoo Message Number: 159899
I am selling a 26-1/2' 1988 in great shape. look online it has blue accent. asking $10,500. hate to part with it but my son is moving his automotive / fabrication shop to Washington (and I want to help him), and I want a 3/4 ton Chevy or GMC to put a camper on instead. (my sweetie has a 32' trailer we need to move and sell also). my RV is on craigslist. my number is (714)204-6914. it can be seen in Anaheim, Mission Viejo, or San Clemente area. Sandra

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Reply #40
Yahoo Message Number: 159924
Made the 8 hour round trip to see the '90 , 22' rear bath I have been talking about, wasn't worth the trip, but one good thing is it was in a 22' and I think I might like a 26' better. I could have handled all the unknowns from possibly purchasing a motor home that has been sitting for 5 year and out in the elements at that if it was a deal, but I can't handle a bad body. Their were way to many area's of oxidation clusters and wavy siding and one spot w/a dime size hole showing the wood underneath. He let a possible 10,000 investment deteriorate to something I would not have given him 2.500.00. Sad Mark

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #41
Yahoo Message Number: 159926
Well I made the 8 hour roundtrip road trip to look at the '90 22' rb that I had been talking to a guy about. I should have known from the photo's that it wasn't going to be pretty, he hadn't bothered to clean the inside before he took pics and posted, last started 3+ years ago, soft spot in front of the bath and not even putting g a tarp over the top when it sat for 5 years in his driveway. But he said he had meticulously maintained it before he parked it, it had run well and no indication of leaks on the inside. Sounded like he, urged by his wife, was ready to get rid of it, so what the hey, went for a ride. I am a sucker for a project, but not this one, I could have handled all the possible and probable issues w/a vehicle sitting for 5 years but I cant handle a bad body. It had a couple of places in the back were the paint was bubbling from oxidation along w/some wavy aluminum I suppose from ply separation under the metal, same thing on both sides and on one of the storage doors behind the passenger side rear entry door their was a dime size hole in the metal showing the wood underneath. That was enough for me, he just let a possible 8,000. - 10,000 vehicle fall into such disrepair that nobody would probably give him more than a couple/three thousand dollars, sad. Been on the market for about 6 months. One good thing is I don't think a 22' is big enough, maybe but I think a 26' would be better. From the pics on Craigs list it looked like he had the upper bunk front windows but it was painted black , on the white, to look like windows. lolWhen I got home I had a message from a gentleman 60 miles from me that has a 26',1994 rear lounge, 109,000 miles brought back from Reno last Aug, used it a few times last year and it is to small for his family.$12,500. asking                                               Mark

Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #42
Yahoo Message Number: 159927
I think the 26.5 ft rear lounge is what we call a Mid Bath. The rear lounge models were on a shorter frame but the two floor plans have a lot of similarities. Here is a link to Andy's guide to the models and changes through the years. This is a very useful document.

Lazy Daze Pocket Guide

As you go from front to back the MidBath has a galley/kitchen just behind the driver, then a bathroom across from the closet and drawers, then two couches that make a king size bed. On some units there is only one couch and two barrel chairs like the rear lounge. If so that is also the unit I have though a bit newer. I really like the floor plan. In the summer I will sometimes hangout in the back reading because my skin no longer can take the afternoon sun. That is when I thank LD for the big windows that they designed into all their RVs.

Good hunting.
John

Good hunting.
John
Currently: 2008 36' Tiffin Open Road
Previously: 2007 Mid Bath

 
Retired and buying 1st RV.
Reply #43
Yahoo Message Number: 159985
I have a 1988 for sale 26 and a half foot rear bed mid kitchen my son's a mechanic has his own shop only 9000 miles on the front brakes with lines rerouted etcetera you can always call me 714 204-6914 I'm in Southern California From: johndacrema@... [lifewithalazydazerv] ; To: ;

Subject: [LD] Re: Retired and buying 1st RV.
Sent: Sun, Apr 17, 2016 2:08:40 AM  I think the 26.5 ft rear lounge is what we call a Mid Bath.  The rear lounge models were on a shorter frame but the two floor plans have a lot of similarities.  Here is a link to Andy's guide to the models and changes through the years.  This is a very useful document. Lazy Daze Pocket Guide                   Lazy Daze Pocket Guide   Founded in 1956, Lazy Daze is the oldest family-owned RV builder in the US.           View on www.andybai...       Preview by Yahoo        As you go from front to back the MidBath has a galley/kitchen just behind the driver, then a bathroom across from the closet and drawers, then two couches that make a king size bed.  On some units there is only one couch and two barrel chairs like the rear lounge.  If so that is also the unit I have though a bit newer.  I really like the floor plan.  In the summer I will sometimes hangout in the back reading because my skin no longer can take the afternoon sun.  That is when I thank LD for the big windows that they  designed into all their RVs. Good hunting. John Good hunting. John