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Kitchen Sink Replacement
Yahoo Message Number: 153504
Poked around in the Files Section trying to find info on a suitable Kitchen Sink Replacement for 2004 30' LD with no success.  Has anyone done this and if so, any recommendations?

Thanks Bud in Ohio

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 153685
?? Anyone have any ideas for this re-placement?  Like I said, I can't seem to find any old posts concerning it. Any direction would be greatly appreciated. OR.. perhaps I just need to take a measurement and go to my local Lowe's Store??

Thanks Bud in Ohio

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 153686
"? Anyone have any ideas for this re-placement?

Call the Mothership for the right size replacement, if available.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 153691
This is nice is you know someone who can install it. It will require some custom work to the countertop, and to put it mildly is a PITA to replace. But it is beautiful, works great, and doesn't chip or stain.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00079PVBW/ref=pe_385040_30332200_pe_309540_26725410_item_image
 Mine took a whole day to install by a skilled craftsmen. An expensive upgrade, but most likely it will only need to be done once.

bobmoore14
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Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 153702
This is a project that is on my list too. When you say "skilled craftsman" do you mean a cabinet maker or someone who knows their way around powertools?

Pat
The Pearl - 2000 31'
"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 153705
I mean someone that is multi talented and knows a lot about LD's. But I don't know if he would do another one. LW5315us from this group.

bobmoore14

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 153712
Other than buying a new sink from the Mothership, no one has found a drop-in sink that fits the Factory cut-out without major modifications.
The new sink on Bob's T/K was too large and too deep for the drop the drain to work correctly. It required a lot of changes in the plumbing and trimming of the countertop.
A friend recently change his sink to a new SS sink and found the Factory cut-out was too big, requiring adding material to the countertop to fill the gap and to provide support.

No way would I want to do another.

If your sink is ugly and beyond cleaning up, consider refinishing the existing sink.
The market has several manufacturers of kits for sinks and tubs Here is one example http://howto.homedepot.com/videos/watch/1743645479001/Homax-Tub-Sink-Refinishing-Kit.html If too complicated for your abilities or situation, there are plenty of contractors who do this type of work.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 153713
Even this looks like a really big job, fraught with places for it to go awry.  Why not just get a new sink directly from Lazy Daze?  Are they incredibly expensive?

Judie

Non-typical brevity because this is being .  ;->

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 153715
Amen to what Larry said: this is a big job, since it seems to be impossible to find a sink that exactly fits Lazy Daze's cutout.

Larry had to deal with a too-large sink. I recently replaced Skylark's fiberglass sink with a stainless steel one, and had the opposite problem: the new sink was the right width, but an inch too short from front to back. It would have covered the cutout--just barely--but there would have been only a very tiny sliver of counter for it to seal to at the front and back, and that didn't seem like a good idea.

The solution was to build out the counter cutout with fiberglass/epoxy, making it smaller to fit the new sink. I would never have attempted this without the help of a friend who has boatyard experience, and it even so was a major hassle.

Then after getting the sink to fit physically, there was the issue of plumbing. First, the new sink had no place to mount a faucet. This was an improvement in my eyes, because it meant the righthand bowl was not made tiny by the faucet mounting area--something I always hated about the Lazy Daze sink--but it meant the new faucet had to be mounted in the counter behind the sink, and that required a longer spout to reach the centers of both bowls. I bought a Moen 8717 industrial faucet, and it has been perfect.

Mounting the new faucet was pretty easy--just drill one hole in the counter. (I added cutoff valves for the hot and cold lines while I was at it.) The real pain was the drain plumbing. Because the new sink had its drain holes located toward the back, they didn't line up at all with the Lazy Daze drain plumbing. My friend and I replaced the drain pipes almost all the way down to the floor, simplifying the hookup in the process. It wasn't easy.

I love my new stainless steel sink, but installing it was a big job. I could never have done it alone, and like Larry, I wouldn't want to do it again.

Andy Baird
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Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 153716
I feel fortunate that Larry was able to do it. I think many people would have given up half way thru the project. It takes lots of determination to get done, and a lot of skill, tools, etc. Not an upgrade I would recommend to people. However, it is very cool. I saw an older LD that has one and that was the inspiration for the project. Never liked the acrylic sink in mine with stains, chips, etc. Now I am thinking of upgraded the bathroom sink which would be much easier since it mounts to the wall and there is no countertop. The plumbing is exposed and that eliminates the headache of working in the confined space of a cabinet.

bobmoore14

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 153724
Wow. While all of the replies are NOT the kind of replies I was hoping to get (LOL), I am still so glad that I asked before proceeding with this project on my own! It seems I am going to have to back off of the idea of replacement for awhile and possibly consider a clean up like Larry suggested.  There isn't anything "wrong" with the current sink, but it's just showing it's age and we thought a new one would spruce up the kitchen some.

I'm sure most of you know how that is; Buy a used "new to you" Lazy Daze and right away want to start making it to be more a part of you.  :-)

Thanks again for all the great advice!

Be Blessed, Bud in Ohio 2004 30' MB


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Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 153731
"It seems I am going to have to back off of the idea of replacement for awhile and possibly consider a clean up like Larry suggested.  There isn't anything "wrong" with the current sink, but it's just showing it's age

Bud

Giving the sink a good cleanup and polishing should be the first thing you try. Even replacing the Factory sink with the same would be a big project.
LD glues the sink in with globs of polyurethane adhesive. Removing it can take a lot of fancy language and two elephants.
It is one difficult removal and damaging the countertop is always a possibility.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #12
Yahoo Message Number: 153741
I can live with the sink, but would really like a different faucet - is replacing that alone as easy (LOL!) as replacing a sticks-and-bricks kitchen faucet would be?

Pat
The Pearl - 2000 31'
"Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most."

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #13
Yahoo Message Number: 153742
Here's a page from the "Lazy Daze Companion" on this topic:

http://lazydazearticles.blogspot.com/search/label/Faucets

You might also do a search of the forum for additional posts and photos; over the years, many owners have replaced the kitchen and bath faucets. Understand that faucets mentioned/recommended in past postings may no longer be available.

As ever, YMMV.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #14
Yahoo Message Number: 153743
"would really like a different faucet - is replacing that alone as easy (LOL!) as replacing a sticks-and-bricks kitchen faucet would be?"

Pretty much the same, yes.

Andy Baird
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"


Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #16
Yahoo Message Number: 153745
Not having seen it, but there could be an fairly easy "fix" to install the sink Andy found without the hassle of filling in the counter top. Since it's a hair too small front to back, a stainless steel "bezel" would do the job. Simple to make for a sheet metal shop with plasma cutter (I have one :c). The plasma cutter will slice through sheet metal as if it were thin cardboard - - the beauty is, unlike a band saw, there's no deformation of the cut edges, so all it takes to pretty the edge up is sandpaper and Scotchbrite - polish to suit or leave brushed.

The bezel would be cut to fit under the existing lip of the sink, then extend out all around for the desired distance. Could have an extension at the back with holes to accommodate the faucet as well. Sink seals to bezel, bezel seals to counter.

bumper
bumper
"Yonder" '05 MB
"WLDBLU" glider trailer

 
Re: Kitchen Sink Replacement
Reply #17
Yahoo Message Number: 153747
"a stainless steel 'bezel' would do the job."

Yes, that would work. I thought about fabricating a bezel, but lacking a plasma cutter or ready access to a shop with one, went the fiberglass route instead.

Andy Baird
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"