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Corner Cap Separation on some LD
Yahoo Message Number: 153327
I've been doing a little research on the cap separation on some Lazy Dazes. It seems like before 2006 the LD company had glued or what have you, the end caps of the LD with inferior silicone just use stainless steel sheet metal screws to pull the caps into position, allowing the 3M 5200 to properly squeeze out and cure." My question is, do I leave the screws in or take them out after it cures? Someone said if I leave the screws in it could crack the end cap because it needs to be able to expand. Im asking anyone on here who has fixed the separtion caps on their LD & did you take out or leave in the screws? Thank you in advance for your help,

Jo
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153329
Jo

Drill pilot holes through the caps one size larger than the diameter of the screw.
Tighten the screws until just snug, do not over tighten.
Leave the screws in place.
The old old cap adhesive is a double sided tape. Usually one side breaks loose but often it is shredded, requiring total removal. Total removal of the damaged tape.

There is a lot more to doing this, if you want an acceptable result.
I suggest you search my past postings, you will find many about the "How to do" the caps,.
The information you need is already there.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153330
There is a lot more to doing this, if you want an acceptable result.

---- There certainly is; I suggest following Larry's advice to look up past posts on this topic and also on the use of the fast-cure 5200.

Thorough preparation of the surfaces to be "stuck" is critical to the durability (and appearance) of the fix.

I left the stainless steel screws in place after sealing the edge caps behind the driver's (and passenger's) door; no cracks.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153340
Larry & Joan,

When I wrote for information I did look on the site here and found only 3 messages on Cap Separation. After you two responded and mentioned there was a lot of info on this subject I went back and worded it differently and that's when I saw all the information dating back as far as 2009 and probably futher. I will start reading up on this more. I have to say when I first heard about the Cap Separation on this LD I was a little concerned but after reading about the 3M product and Larry saying it was common in certain modles I was ok about buying this rig. I realize there is more to it then putting the screws in and letting it cure. I found that out when I came across the guys blog where he used wood to hold the corner caps in place while it cures. He talked about his prep work before he applied the 5200. Now that I found all of these post about what to do I will read more on it. Don't know if I really want to try this myself but I do want to learn more about the process. Thank you Larry & Joan for your help and guiding me in the right direction. I appreciate it. I'm going to pick up the LD this Wednesday.. *:) happy

JO
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153343
Joan,

I just read one of your post where you were sealing the corner gap and what you need to do, how fast it hardens, gloves, etc. Some good information and lots to read up on. Im glad I found more post on this instead of only 3... thanks again..
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153356
Jo,
 What specific wording did you use (in the search your groups      function?) to see "all the info dating back as far as 2009 and      probably further". I have to do some similiar repairs as well.

TIA,

George Culp
23.5 TK
Saucier, MS
 On 6/15/2015 12:13 PM, Jo Blackmore        [lifewithalazydazerv] wrote:

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Larry                & Joan,

When I wrote for                                      information I did look on the site                                      here and found only 3 messages on                                      Cap Separation. After you two                                      responded and mentioned there was                                      a lot of info on this subject I                                      went back and worded it                                      differently and that's when I saw                                      all the information dating back as                                      far as 2009 and probably futher. I                                      will start reading up on this                                      more. I have to say when I first                                      heard about the Cap Separation on                                      this LD I was a little concerned                                      but after reading about the 3M                                      product and Larry saying it was                                      common in certain modles I was ok                                      about buying this rig. I realize                                      there is more to it then putting                                      the screws in and letting it cure.                                      I found that out when I came                                      across the guys blog where he used                                      wood to hold the corner caps in                                      place while it cures. He talked                                      about his prep work before he                                      applied the 5200. Now that I found                                      all of these post about what to do                                      I will read more on it. Don't know                                      if I really want to try this                                      myself but I do want to learn more                                      about the process. Thank you Larry                                      & Joan for your help and                                      guiding me in the right direction.                                      I appreciate it. I'm going to pick                                      up the LD this Wednesday.. *:) happy

JO
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153357
Not Jo, but in addition to searching the archives for posts using phrases such as end cap repair/end cap sealing/end cap gap/and a variety of other keyword combinations, you might want to look at this page from the Lazy Daze Companion:

http://lazydazearticles.blogspot.com/search/label/End%20Caps

Yahoo's message board search feature is not robust or "smart"; you will get plenty of returns with random and isolated words, i.e., "end", "cap", "sealing", but keep looking. Relevant and helpful "how-to" posts (and photo links) are there.

One comment on end cap "separation"; if the wrap has become "unstuck", or is just gapping or bowing out a bit, a lasting repair can be made pretty easily with careful surface preparation and sealant. However, if the wraps/caps have separated significantly for the corners, or have warped or twisted away from the corners to the extent that trying to seal them back on to the corners would result in cracking or splitting (I've seen a few like that), a better option might be to have the end caps replaced at the factory. (If the location is do-able)

As ever, YMMV.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153369
George,

Go to the conversations section and scroll down til you see a little magnifying looking symbol, click on it and you will see "Search Conversation" then type in what Joan mentioned. Also here is one you can type in "Sealing corner seams on LD side & pest"  you will read some good info that Joan & Larry suggest as they both have fixed their LD.. Good luck George..

JO

"Jo, What specific wording did you use (in the search your groups function?) to see "all the info dating back as far as 2009 and probably further".  I have to do some similiar repairs as well.
TIA, George Culp 23.5 TK Saucier, MS"
 
Re: Corner Cap Separation on some LD
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Yahoo Message Number: 153371
Thanks for the info Jo. Will do some      more searching.

George


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George,

Go to the conversations section and                      scroll down til you see a little magnifying                      looking symbol, click on it and you will see                      "Search Conversation" then type in what Joan                      mentioned. Also here is one you can type in                      "Sealing corner seams on LD side & pest"  you                      will read some good info that Joan & Larry                      suggest as they both have fixed their LD.. Good                      luck George..

JO