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Question for Full-Timers
Yahoo Message Number: 159709
Hello all. Hope this day has been a good one for you thus far!

I've got a few questions for you full-timers; Do any of the Park Rangers, or other law enforcement type people ever ask if you're living full-time in your RV and if so, why would they even need to ask that and how do you respond?

We've ran across various posts in other blogs where the writers seem to try to evade the logical answer to that question and were just curious as to why they would.

Thanks!

Bud in Ohio (for now....37 more days to go)

Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 159716
Hello all. Hope this day has been a good one for you thus far!

I've got a few questions for you full-timers; Do any of the Park Rangers, or other law enforcement type people ever ask if you're living full-time in your RV and if so, why would they even need to ask that and how do you respond?

We've ran across various posts in other blogs where the writers seem to try to evade the logical answer to that question and were just curious as to why they would.

Bud,

I recall reading that after the big economic downturn there was a problem of displaced people trying to live in places like national forest lands. Many such areas have a limit (typically 14 days) on length of stays and rangers would keep a look out for people just moving around in the general area.

HTH, Art
Art and Barbara
Settled in Atterdag Village of Solvang
2015-2022 fulltime in a 2016 Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP
2002-2015 2002 LD MB
Art's blog

Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 159727
I have never been asked that question, but I keep a low residential profile in various ways. First, I never stay beyond the 14 day limit. Second, I relocate a substantial distance away. Third, if I see a ranger, I will engage him/her in conversation about places I can get to, and places to photograph. It creates an image of a recreational stay rather than a "residential" stay.

There are (I believe) regulations that prohibit use of many federal lands such as Parks and National Forests for residential purposes, and that is what is behind the issue. Thus, while I full time in my RV, I may legitimately stay in such places, as long as it is for recreational purposes.

So far, it has not been an issue.

Ken F in OR
'08 MB

Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 159731
Bud,

I am not full time yet, but should be soon. Many people are reluctant to say they live full time in an RV because in many states those living in an RV are considered "homeless". I don't know the full extent of what that means legally, and of course others on this forum know way more about it than I do. But hubby and I do and will continue to have an actual permanent address because we will have our kids full timing with us, and some people might not like it if we purposefully make our kids "homeless". :-(

-Rebecca in WA
Rebecca in WA
2016 mid-bath
"Ramirez"

Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 159735
We have never had that question asked and we stayed 3.5 mos in Lake corpus christi state park. (Really nice, you can stay by the month full hookups over the winter). All of the camp hosts, there were 7 and many of the folks who came in and out were full timers.
We don't volunteer this to the Rangers, but it is never an issue if we are asked. We never felt a need to volunteer that info in the state parks we stayed in from vt to California. And our LD is a 96, and looks kind of retro.
Sandy KalleAnka Vermont

Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 159736
We have full timed and boondocked a good bit of the time for over 7 years now and have never been asked that question. However, I am aware of it happening in the Coconino NF near Flagstaff, AZ in the summer of 2013 and here is the blog post that talks about that.

Cheap RV Living.com -Keep it Simple Sunday: Staying Legal as a Boondocker

We happened to be nearby when this happened and we met the writer of this blog and visited with the group of people that were there. Nice guy and all of the folks there maintained a clean and quiet camp. We were about a half mile away and were parked with another full time LD owner. I assume because we had newer and more traditional RVs we were never questioned.

We found messy camp sites in the area left by partying young folks who were not part of this group. Not sure if they got the same treatment or not.

After this happened I researched the federal statutes and it is clear that they are misinterpreting the intent and language of the statute as it related to their interaction with Bob and his group. It was the ranger's contention that if you didn't own or rent a residence then you were "residing" in your camper and that even one day was illegal under the statute. In my view it was an intentional misinterpretation to attempt to get rid of some "undesirable" people. Keep in mind that his interaction with the ranger happened on the day Bob arrived. They did not overstay the 14 days.

In my research on the issue I found that this had been tried somewhere in Colorado and that an older couple had been ticketed somewhere else in AZ. I don't recall the specifics of those cases or have the links.

Jim C

Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #6
Thanks for the response.  I lost this thread on the old group.  ::) I really like the suggestion of moving a substantial distance away instead of the next closest park.  Makes it more stealth like.  LOL

We are at our launch pad at Alum Creek State Park here in Ohio,  ready to head out West on Monday to begin this new RV lifestyle that we've planned so long for.

Hoping to meet many of you fine people along our journey!

Bud

 
Re: Question for Full-Timers
Reply #7
All the above advise, plus don't put a lot of stuff outside - not only looks trashy, but it looks like you plan to stay.
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy