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LD Storage Compartment Locks
Yahoo Message Number: 142844
I know that I should search the group for this, but can't find the search for this group only.  First time I have seen the "new and improved (?) Yahoo."  IMHO even if it all worked, it leaves a lot to be desired.
 Does anyone know what brand of locks LD uses for the storage compartments?  Or can you aim me at a message that discusses same. I suspect that I can call Vince and get the locks from LD.
 I have a couple of problem locks that need to be replaced.  In the pas, while on the road, I have been forced to buy "whatever brand I could find" and have them re-keyed.  That is not the way to go.  Not all CH-751 keys, or locks for them, are created equal.

Doug

Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 142852
Doug

When storage compartment locks break, I usually buy a kit of keyed-alike locks, the variety that uses a round key, eliminating the CH-751 key.
 With the CH-751 key, just about anyone can open your compartments, a fact I learned about years ago at the 50tth Anniversary GTG, in Cheyenne,  when the water truck operator was able to open the water tank access door with his own LD's compartment key.
A round key will provide a little more security, not much more since the compartment doors can be easily popped opened with a screwdriver, but may send a not-so-smart thief down the road to the next RV.

When buying a new lock, straight or round key, take a lock with you as a sample, the locks are made for various thicknesses of door and the locking arms vary in lengths and offset.
http://iss4locks.com/store1/rvstore/

Larry

Storage Compartment Lock
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 142853
Larry, assuming the compartment doors use the same size lock, do you happen to know which size lock offered by Industrial Lock is a good replacement?

Thanks for that link.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB


Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 142856
Michelle, I'm wondering if this company uses the same key for every lock it sells?

In reality, I think theft from storage compartments is nearly non-existent. I don't recall anyone ever posting of such a theft.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB

Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 142858
Go to the Lzy Daze Companion Site.  Under "Locks"  Some of it is my experience installing the cylinder locks.  It is a wortwhile investment if you are concerned about your storage compartment locks.

Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 142868
Larry:  With my rig not close to hand, I can't measure the depth of the locks.  The site you url'd shows a variety of depths for the cylinder locks (inches): 1/2, 5/8, 7/8, 1 1/8, 1 1/2, and 1 3/16.  Which of these is the correct size for the LD compartments?  Thanks, Jon
(Former) ‘06 TK “Albatross.” And (former) Vespa 250.   Alas, no more; both are gone.😕 Great memories remain! 😄

Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 142870
Doug and Jon
 The RV lock site I linked to was just one i found on a quick Goggle search for locks. I have never used them. They do have a very complete catalog of compartment locks. Using their on-line chat, they will key-alike any amount and combination of their round-key locks. Most stores have a four lock maximum. They actually may be a lock business and not a reseller.
 I didn't want to post until I had a chance to remove a couple locks from our LD for measurement.
Our 2003 LD's stock locks measurement -  5/8" cylinder and a 1-1/2" straight arm (cam).
http://iss4locks.com/store1/rvstore/ch751-replacement-locks/11-58-tubular-cam-lock.html The round-key replacements I bought had arms that were too short so metal extensions were welded on, I found that 1-5/8"  arms secured the doors better. If a bench grind is available, I would get the 1-3/4" arms and trim them, if necessary, if not, the stock size should work.
 LD has used the same door design for many years but I cannot guarantee that all doors have the same thickness. Take a look at your LD's compartment doors to see if the door's panels are 1/2" thick.

For some extra bling, the chrome locks covers are nice.
http://iss4locks.com/store1/rvstore/accessories/41-dust-cover.html

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 142875
John Campbell has a 2005 MB identical to mine.  Many years ago he changed all of his locks to "Acme-style" locks (the ones with the round keys).  It was a complex task as the locks required are of several different body lengths and "tab lengths."  Also after he finally got the correct locks he had to have them re-keyed.   He gave me a list of the locks he needed and I think that the list is someplace in my file.  If I can find the list I will post same.  (In fact I think that I may have done this some years ago.)  I know that my rig the "upper" rear compartment doors have 1 ½ inch long locks and the "lower" rear compartment doors have 1-inch long locks.  I suspect that the lock body lengths will differ for each Lazy Daze model, and maybe by year.
 I never considered changing my locks.  I figured  that if anyone really  wanted into the compartments they were  going to get in no matter what type of lock was there.  IMHO the Lazy Daze compartment locks are a bit of a joke.  There is no "backing" or "reinforcement" inside the compartment doors to keep the lock bodies from being turned by force from the outside.  The "hole" in the thin aluminum skin has "flat sides" to match the lock body, but the skin has little strength.  In fact if the lock has  the little "finger tab" on it, turning it by force is easier.  The little tab is fairly stout and its  hole has flat sides to match the body of the lock.  Then there the foam insulation inside the door.  The nut on the lock body fits against it and when you change a lock you must be careful not to compress it too much.  The standard CH751 locks can easily be turned with a large screw driver, and maybe a wrench for leverage.  The "Acme-style" locks that I have seen have "heads" that stick out further from the door surface and can probably be turned with a pair of Vise Grips.
 I have had to replace three locks;  all on the lower right rear compartment door.   All 3 locks failed in the same manner;  the key would no longer release the inner cylinder so that it would turn.  Tried multiple keys, lock lube, etc and the "tab" was not being blocked by something in the compartment.   I've had to drill out the locks in order to remove them.  Currently I have a "thumb" lock installed on that door and want to replace it with a regular lock.  I've done two of these lock replacements on the road so I carry the "thumb" lock as my spare.

Doug Baker

 
Re: LD Storage Compartment Locks
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 142877
"I never considered changing my locks.  I figured  that if anyone really   wanted into the compartments they were  going to get in no matter what  type of lock was there.  IMHO the Lazy Daze compartment locks are a bit  of a joke."

Doug

As my father always said "Locks keep honest people honest".

It only takes a screwdriver or a pair pliers to break in the exterior compartments. The reason why I changed was to give the potential thief a little bit of a hassle in the hope that it is easier for him to move to the next RV, the one with CH751 locks,

Locks can bend the two flats, in the door panel, that hold the locks in position, allowing the lock cylinder to spin..
 If the flats break down, I have found desk locks kits that come with a steel backing plate that matches the door lock holes, including the flats. The plate is screwed on the inside of the door, re-establishing the flats. and preventing the cylinder from rotating.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze