Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #25 – April 12, 2013, 08:24:14 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138263"So, I played around twisting the levelers until they registered level, but I've been mulling a solution in the back of my mind. Immediately after I read your post, I realized I need to pull those dang things off and put a portable carpenter's level on the dinette table (situated between the two axles)" If you have somebody who's willing to sit back there and call out the readings, that will work. If you're driving solo (as I do), or your navigator is sitting in the passenger's seat, it's not such a good strategy. Me, I want my bubble levels (not levelers) right where I can see them while I'm maneuvering into position in my campsite. Per the factory's recommendation, I have one on the dashboard (for left/right) and one on the driver's-side door (for fore/aft). They're stuck on with mounting putty, so I can adjust them if necessary. One other thing to keep in mind: when you think about getting an 18" or longer carpenter's level, remember that if you're going to be laying it on a smooth, flat surface such as the dinette table, the only thing that matters is the *length of the vial*. The length of the level is irrelevant in this scenario. When laid on a smooth surface, a two-inch vial in a six-inch torpedo level is precisely as accurate as a two-inch vial in a three-foot carpenter's level. The only reason to use a long level is because it averages out the unevenness in a rough-cut surface, and that doesn't apply here. So don't waste your money on a big level, unless it has a correspondingly long vial. Personally, I find the little stick-ons supplied by the factory work just fine.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #26 – April 13, 2013, 10:03:07 am Yahoo Message Number: 138269Note also that the table may not be reliably level. I am in a MB, and my table is not level when the rig is level. It is off just a bit. Use the floor rather than the table if you are using a bubble level back there, unless you have checked and verified that your table is level when the floor is. Remember that being level is most important for proper function of the refrigerator, and next, for the stove and oven. Things like tables and people are farther down on the list... As a side note, and in response to the idea of using a bottle jack, I use Quadra Bigfoot levelers, then check level on the floor with an 8" torpedo level. I also have the bubble levels on the dash and drivers door for my initial indication. I shudder at the thought of having to scramble around with a bottle jack, trying to get my rig level using it and blocks, but if it works for you, that's fine. It's just not my cup of (lazy) tea. Just this week, I have been on a wonderful site (#5 at Tuttle Creek CG by Mt Whitney) that I could only use because I put blocks under my Bigfoot pads and had the left front tire a foot in the air. The folks next to me asked why I had set up on an angle instead of level, and had trouble believing me when I said I was level. I brought them inside and put the level on the floor. Spot on! A little later I saw them working to re-level their rig. Andy would have had to pass up that site and pick another. I wanted THAT one, and was able to use it. Bottom line, we all have different needs and different ways of getting there. Identifying that the bubble levels you had were off, and fixing that, is good. As others have said, I think that the factory recommendation for placement of the bubble levels is spot on.Ken F watching the sun rise over Mono Lake
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #27 – April 13, 2013, 10:51:47 am Yahoo Message Number: 138270I was at Tuttle the previous week for a night. It is deceptively off level, I was
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #28 – April 13, 2013, 11:58:40 am Yahoo Message Number: 138271Quote "Just this week, I have been on a wonderful site (#5 ***at Tuttle Creek CG by Mt Whitney...***"Ken F ***watching the sun rise over Mono Lake*** Oh how silly of me, your LD must have wheels because it appears you have moved ! In reading your post I was scratching my head as to how you could possibly watch the sunrise over Mono Lake while sitting at Tuttle Creek... something that I've never been able to do. :-}Steve S. Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Eastern Sierra conditions Reply #29 – April 13, 2013, 12:01:09 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138272Hey guys, how's the snow level look? I'm planning on taking my son up Whitney via the PCT (from New Army) as soon as the cables ice out. I hear Portal is still closed, but the troops are getting restless. Kick off for those doing the entire trail is 4/26, so spring
Re: Eastern Sierra conditions Reply #30 – April 13, 2013, 12:09:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138273Snowpack
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites Reply #31 – April 13, 2013, 03:03:47 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138279Just this week, I have been on a wonderful site (#5 at Tuttle Creek CG by Mt Whitney) that I could only use because I put blocks under my Bigfoot pads and had the left front tire a foot in the air. QuoteAndy would have had to pass up that site and pick another. I wanted THAT one, and was able to use it. Just a comment and not a complaint, but when I've been in campgrounds with mostly unlevel sites, I've wondered why, as long as the sites had to have been graded/prepared, the workers didn't go the extra step and make the sites really level. I know, there could be undercrud that prevents this, but often there's not. Chris H (enjoying our 50th anniversary [today] trip in Puerto Vallarta and ready to get the LD out of storage for some non-touristy travel) PS: This is our first-ever trip to Mexico and I have really been impressed with how friendly, courteous and respectful our Mexican neighbors have been. It's been a very pleasant and enjoyable trip.
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites Reply #32 – April 13, 2013, 03:06:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138280congrats!!!! that's awesome!!!
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites Reply #33 – April 13, 2013, 03:09:42 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138281I am interested
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites Reply #34 – April 13, 2013, 03:43:23 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138282wrote: Just this week, I have been on a wonderful site (#5 at Tuttle Creek CG by Mt Whitney) that I could only use because I put blocks under my Bigfoot pads and had the left front tire a foot in the air.wrote: Just a comment and not a complaint, but when I've been in campgrounds with mostly unlevel sites, I've wondered why, as long as the sites had to have been graded/prepared, the workers didn't go the extra step and make the sites really level. I know, there could be undercrud that prevents this, but often there's not. --- Tuttle Creek, Goodale, and Horton Creek were "renovated" in 2011-2012; the upgrades included installing a water system, a dump station, new toilets, fire rings, and a few other things, e.g., lantern poles and new tables. As far as I know, what was not included in the renovation was grading/leveling the campsites. http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/info/newsbytes/2012/554xtra_bifo_campgroundsbed_rehab.htmlTuttle is a great campground, and it's certainly cheap, particularly with an old people's pass; just bring plenty of blocks! ;-)Joan
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #35 – April 13, 2013, 04:29:34 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138285QuoteSteve, you, Tom J., and Andy are fast indeed; I didn't "beat the delete", so the subsequent postings brought a "HUH?!" from me, and I imagine others may have been confused, too. Can you provide a "word picture" of the block arrangement you attempted to diagram? If it's too much hassle, don't bother; I'll just remain "un-blocked"! ;-)Joan Ok, Joan - a new approach:_____***** __*****_***** ______*****_***** ___*****_*****_***** *****_*****_***** That makes 11 blocks for 5" - if THIS displays properly! You can see where some half blocks - if not a requirement, would give more room for error.Steve
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #36 – April 13, 2013, 04:51:20 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138286wrote: Ok, Joan - a new approach:Quote _____***** __*****_***** ______*****_***** ___*****_*****_***** *****_*****_***** That makes 11 blocks for 5" - if THIS displays properly! You can see where some half blocks - if not a requirement, would give more room for error. --- OK, thanks, Steve; I got it! And I hope I never have to use it! ;-)Joan
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers Reply #37 – April 13, 2013, 05:05:09 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138287Quote"I shudder at the thought of having to scramble around with a bottle jack, trying to get my rig level using it and blocks, but if it works for you, that's fine. It's just not my cup of (lazy) tea." "..Scramble around..."? As mentioned in my post, the use of bottle jacks are only as a last resort at those rare sites that we just must have but may not be very level. Not all RVers have a hydraulic or mechanical jack systems or want the headaches that may come with them. At our favorite high Sierra lake there is a great site at waters edge under the Pines with an incredible panorama view of the lake but the parking pad is about 12 inches off of level for our 30' Class A. These days we like camping in one great spot for a week or two rather than bouncing around from camp to camp every night or two. As for leveling the hard way using bottle jacks from time to time? I find it very relaxing puttering around camp. After all, isn't it the camping itself why most of us got into this in the first place?...Al
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites Reply #38 – April 13, 2013, 05:56:38 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138290Quote I am interested in info on Mexico travels are you blogging and if so what is the blog so I can follow along?Jan/Scottsdale AZ. QuoteJan, I'm not blogging but when I did a search on Google for "blogs on Mexico" it said there were 1,150,000,000 hits. Wow! Chris
Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites Reply #39 – April 13, 2013, 08:48:18 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138296Oh my goodness sure don't want to wade through those :-)Jan/Scottsdale AZ. Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 21:56:36 +0000 Subject: [LD] Re: Question About Lynx Levelers and unlevel campsites
Re: Eastern Sierra conditions Reply #40 – April 13, 2013, 10:14:46 pm Yahoo Message Number: 138304West side 108 is open to Kennedy Meadows now.