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I give up - here's my dumb question
Yahoo Message Number: 135899
Ok, based on past experience, I've been pretty good about searching forum threads, reading the (original) owner's manual & on-line companion, and gleaning bits of information from Andy's site in order to resolve questions about our '93 22' MP.
 However ... this time I'm stumped. But because it will be obvious to anyone (most likely everyone) who knows the answer, it's gonna come across as pretty dumb. So, here it is:
 Where is the switch for the aisle night light? (The little light located under the box panel holding the 120/12v converter, AC breakers & DC fuses.) Is it the switch located in the upper bunk area just to left of the front door? If so, I thought that switch was for a defunct/non-installed fan?
 The reason I ask is I just learned that the aisle night light is in fact on a different circuit from the porch & entry step light. And the reason I just learned that is because while calculating our avg daily amp usage (we almost always go out sans hook-ups), LD lists the amps separately for the porch/entry step & aisle night light in the manual.
 Talk about an 'a-ha' moment. For the last few weeks, I just assumed that porch, entry step & aisle light where on the same switch. And because the porch & entry step work from the switch next to the front door (alongside the other switch for the overhead light by the frig), but not the aisle night light, I thought maybe the aisle bulb was out.
 Replaced bulb - nope. Switched bulb with entry step light - nope. Pulled out voltmeter to confirm -0- volts. But was I getting -0- volts because I didn't have the correct switch turned on? Well, I went out and turned on the overhead cab switch to see, but still no aisle night light (it still has the new bulb).
 So, to summarize, if in fact the aisle night light switch is the one located in the overhead cab, then I still have to trace out a open/short to the fixture. No big deal - but I want to make sure I in fact have the circuit turned on.
 Or, is the switch located someplace else, and I've just never turned it on? If so, does that mean the overhead cab switch was/is for a fan that wasn't installed.

As usual, thanks in advance for any info/tips.

Karl
Re: I give up - here's my dumb question
Reply #1 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135901
Dear Karl,
 My previous LD was a 93 RB and there was a switch on the upper bunk for the night lite.  I bet yours is the same.  I very much doubt that the outside porch, entry step and the aisle night lite would be on the same circuit.  Being controlled by the same switch would not make sense.

Gary
Re: I give up - here's my dumb question
Reply #2 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135902
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"...site in order to resolve questions about our '93 22' MP...
Where is the switch for the aisle night light?"

Karl
Karl
 While you and I do not have the same floor plan (I have an '04 30'IB) the light in question is wired the same. My switch is in the bedroom area, as must be yours.
 Mine controls a light in the "hallway" near the toilet door and also another in the step-well just inside the entry door.
 My outside step light is on the wall next to the door as you have determined.
 I'm not sure if the night light has a separate fuse or not but you might investigate that.

Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Jiggs
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
Re: I give up - here's my dumb question
Reply #3 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135904
Karl, that switch is pretty chincy, so check it first, I have to cycle it several times some time before the light comes on. Good luck, Darryll
My dumb question - resolved!
Reply #4 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135906
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Karl, that switch is pretty chincy, so check it first, I have to cycle it several times some time before the light comes on. Good luck, Darryll
Hey guys, thanx for the quick input. Yes, the switch located to the right of the upper bunk does indeed control the aisle night light.
 Just to give everyone a chuckle, here's a classic trouble-shooting no-no: a few weeks ago, when I transferred the bulb from the night light to the step entry light (in order to see if the bulb was faulty), I neglected to put another bulb in the night light.
 So, after getting the correct answer today, even when I looked back towards the rear after hitting the over cab switch (weeks before, I had previously been examining around the bunk to see if the switch controlled a light and/or outlet in the upper section), of course the light still didn't go on.
 I only figured it out while I had my voltmeter out testing my coach batteries status (eg 12.6+ = 100%). Since I like to test my charge @ the 12vdc connectors on the converter, I simply whipped off the night light cover while I was down there, noticed the lack of bulb, and plugged in the meter. Nada. So I got up, turned on the switch, and voila'.
 Grabbed a spare bulb, plugged it in, and experienced a working night light. Oh brother ...

Again, thanx for the input.
Re: I give up - here's my dumb question
Reply #5 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135912
On our 30IB the switch is on the underside of the storage cabinet at the head of the bed (rear). We seldom use it but at times we have found it nice to have.

Bob SE 5

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Dear Karl,
 My previous LD was a 93 RB and there was a switch on the upper bunk for the night lite.  I bet yours is the same.  I very much doubt that the outside porch, entry step and the aisle night lite would be on the same circuit.  Being controlled by the same switch would not make sense.

Gary
Re: My dumb question - resolved!
Reply #6 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135913
Since we're on the subject of the night light and footwell light, I'd like to mention that I recently installed LED replacements for these, and I'm really happy with them. As recommended by someone here (sorry, I don't have the message at my fingertips), this $5.95 product from SuperBrightLEDs is what I bought:
 https://www.superbrightleds.com/moreinfo/led-landscape-lights/led-product/404/

Specifically, I ordered part number LPC-B-WW2: black case, two warm white LEDs. These are an almost exact replacement for the factory-installed night lights. The mounting hole spacing is about 1/4" narrower, but you can put one screw into an existing hole and make a new hole on the other side, and it looks perfect. (You do need to check the polarity when wiring these in. In my case, the existing white wire was negative and the yellow was positive.)
 The light output of these LED fixtures is a perfect match for the the warm incandescent glow of the original fixtures. And I'll never have to replace another peanut-sized bulb. :-) For six bucks apiece, I think these are just great. My thanks to whomever originally recommended them.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
LED lights
Reply #7 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135923
Andy, thanx for the link. On a related note, do you have any preference(s) for LED replacements for both the overhead incandescent and fluorescent lights?
 I read through the companion, and took down some notes regarding LED light strips as replacements (for the fluorescent lights), but I'm not sure how current that info is, or whether it's been superseded by some new rave product.

As always, TIA.

K
Re: LED lights
Reply #8 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135924
"Regan"  wrote: I read through the companion, and took down some notes regarding LED light strips as replacements (for the fluorescent lights), but I'm not sure how current that info is, or whether it's been superseded by some new rave product.
--- You'll probably get replies to this query, but you can also bring up many past posts on this topic, many of which are current, by plugging "LEDs" (and/or a variety of like phrases) into the message board's search bar.

As always, YMMV.

Joan
2003 TK has a new home
Re: LED lights
Reply #9 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135948
"Andy, thanx for the link. On a related note, do you have any preference(s) for LED replacements for both the overhead incandescent and fluorescent lights?"
 Sure! Eureka contains two articles on this topic. The first covers LED replacements for incandescent bulbs:
 http://www.andybaird.com/Eureka/pages/leds.htm

The second is a detailed step-by-step description of installing LED strips in a fluorescent fixture:
 http://www.andybaird.com/Eureka/pages/fluorescents.htm

Both articles include specific product recommendations and links to vendors. Hope you find them helpful!

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: LED lights
Reply #11 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135953
One more comment about LED light replacements: be aware that there are great variations in color, from icy blue-white to warm incandescent-like yellowish light. In general, the blue-white lights are cheaper, slightly more efficient, and more widely available.
 Some people can't see the difference, or don't care. I know more than one person who installed these blue-white LEDs in their rig and is perfectly happy with them. Personally, I hate them--just looking at them makes me want to put on a sweater!
 Here's a quick test: go into a dark bathroom, turn on an LED flashlight (because they have blue-white LEDs), and look at your face in the mirror. if you're comfortable with that, then go ahead and buy whatever LED product is cheapest.
 On the other hand, if you're like me and prefer the warmth of an incandescent light, then look for LEDs with a "color temperature" rating of 4,000° K or lower. If the seller doesn't give any color temperature, you can assume the LEDs are blue-white (euphemistically referred to as "cool white")--typically 5,000° to 6,000° K-- and you probably won't like them.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
 
Re: LED lights
Reply #12 –
Yahoo Message Number: 135965
Jeez Andy, you rock. Yes, my wife & I aren't getting any younger, and I probably need all the help I can get anyway. LOL
 I'll be sure to look for the 4k-. It's no wonder any self-respecting 'date night' spot has candlelight lighting, accent or otherwise.

K