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New owner with questions about updating interior.
Yahoo Message Number: 127897
We were finally able to find our new to us 2006 26.5' RB a few months back.  Found it posted on this site and flew down to TX from VA to close the deal and bring her home.  The people we bought it from could not have been any nicer.  The rig was spotless and they even set it up at the campground before they picked us up at the airport.  It was by far a great buying experience and road trip back.
The only thing we are not in love with is the the storm grey/blue (I think that is what it is called) interior.  Also not a fan of all the gold hardware. Love everything else about it...and the fact it does not look like every other Class C out there.
Are the bases/trim ring of the cabinet knobs put on with an adhesive?  I can get the knobs off but the base seems to be glued on. I did not want to force it.
I plan to have my wife recover the blue window valances with a more up to date color.  Was also thinking of pulling out the blue carpet and putting down a floating wood floor but am not sure how to deal with the cab section of carpet if I wanted to put down a tan carpet on the cab floor or cieling.  Any advice? Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 127901
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"...Was also thinking of pulling out the blue carpet and putting down a floating wood floor but am not sure how to deal with the cab section of carpet if I wanted to put down a tan carpet on the cab floor or cieling.  Any advice? Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions."

Anthony, if you contact me off line I will email you some links about replacing carpet with wood floors in RVs.

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 127902
"Are the bases/trim ring of the cabinet knobs put on with an adhesive? I can get the knobs off but the base seems to be glued on."
 Yes, the trim plates are glued on. Applying *gentle* heat with a hair dryer helps in removing them, but go slowly--if you heat too much or pull too hard or too fast, the trim plate may pull up or distort the vinyl woodgrain veneer it's attached to.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 127903
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Was also thinking of pulling out the blue carpet and putting down a floating wood floor but am not sure how to deal with the cab section of carpet if I wanted to put down a tan carpet on the cab floor or cieling.  Any advice? Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions.

Anthony, here's a link to floor improvements found in the Link section in this forum:  http://tinyurl.com/43wt66

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB


Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 127906
"I plan to have my wife recover the blue window valances with a more up to date color. Was also thinking of pulling out the blue carpet and putting down a floating wood floor"

Anthony
 Many completely remove the valances to expose more window and a bigger view. The tinted windows do make the interiors of LDs darker than RVs with clear windows. Another option is to narrow the valances, reusing the Factory fabric or something different.
 A disadvantage of completely removing the valances is it increases the drafts coming off the windows. I have spent numerous evenings, in many LDs, with every variation of valance, in cool weather, and definitely feel the difference, especially at each end of the window. Valance-free LDs are draftier.
The valance acts as an edge weatherstrip, when the shades are pulled down. The tighter the valance fit the shade is better it is when it comes to draft control.

Our 23.5' FL LD has the same blue/gray interior as yours.
We liked it and ordered it but planned from the beginning to cover the Factory carpet. The light blue carpet shows every bit of dirt. We noticed the floor models, at the Mothership, looked bad.
I begged Steve to install hard flooring throughout the interior...in vain, "no" was his answer. He said it added to much work to make it look and function right. So no hard floors.
I tried several types of carpets before settling on a dark blue indoor/outdoor carpet found at Lowes. For the carpet to keep its shape it needs to have a rigid backing. The more expensive carpet has stiff backing. Carpets with weak backing will stretch out of shape quickly. It looks bad and becomes a trip-hazard. A heavy, thick backing also keep dirt from migrating through the carpet.
Using heavy craft water, make a template of all the carpet and floor area you wish to cover. Using scissors and masking tape, piece the template together so it covers the the nooks and crannies.
 Flip the carpet and template over and tape the template to the carpet, after making sure both the carpet and template are flipped (failing to do this is a quick way of wasting a good piece of carpet). Then trace the outline of the template on the carpet's backing, with a Sharpie. Cut the carpet with a new, sharp utility knife. Change the blade if it starts to get harder to cut.  Use a straightedge to guide the knife on the long straight cuts. Take your time cutting. An tightly fitted carpet locks itself in place.
 Where the carpet meets the Factory hard floor, I use sticky-back 1" wide Velcro tape on the floor. The carpet has a strip of 1" wide Velcro, without the 'sticky' (adhesive), glued on with a solvent-based contact cement.
The indoor/outdoor carpet is thin enough not to make the carpet feel to deep or soft. It's pleasant to walk in bare feet and is a lot warmer. I'm finally happy with the carpet and it seems to be holding up fine after a lot of dirty campsites.
If it gets dirty where vacuuming doesn't clean it,  wash it. On a hot summer, the carpet can be rolled up and taken outside. Lay it out on the driveway and wash it with a push broom, a bucket of soapy water and a hose, with a nozzle. I do will do this once before pulling it out and using it, as a template, to cut a new, replacement piece of carpet.
The most difficult part of the job is cutting the first template. Subsequent replacements will use the old carpet as the template.
To cover the cab, lounge and bath cost less the $75. We should get 3-5 years out of the carpet before replacing, so the cost is minimal. It is more comfortable temperature wise, summer and winter, than hard floors would be with throw rugs or a single layer of carpeting.
 It's something to think about before engaging in a major project of removing the Factory carpeting and installing hard flooring.
You mentioned replacing the carpet in the cab, that is going to be another big job.
Get ready to remove a LOT of staples, in the floors and cab.
When LDs installs something, it's installed. They never try to save money on staples or polyurethane glue.

Have fun!

Larry
2001 MB
* Not to be confused with Larry W (3000 of my posts are actually from expert Larry W due to Yahoo transition mis-step)


Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 127909
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"I plan to have my wife recover the blue window valances with a more up to date color. Was also thinking of pulling out the blue carpet and putting down a floating wood floor"

Anthony
 Many completely remove the valances to expose more window and a bigger view. The tinted windows do make the interiors of LDs darker than RVs with clear windows. Another option is to narrow the valances, reusing the Factory fabric or something different.
 A disadvantage of completely removing the valances is it increases the drafts coming off the windows. I have spent numerous evenings, in many LDs, with every variation of valance, in cool weather, and definitely feel the difference, especially at each end of the window. Valance-free LDs are draftier.
The valance acts as an edge weatherstrip, when the shades are pulled down. The tighter the valance fit the shade is better it is when it comes to draft control.

Our 23.5' FL LD has the same blue/gray interior as yours.
We liked it and ordered it but planned from the beginning to cover the Factory carpet. The light blue carpet shows every bit of dirt. We noticed the floor models, at the Mothership, looked bad.
I begged Steve to install hard flooring throughout the interior...in vain, "no" was his answer. He said it added to much work to make it look and function right. So no hard floors.
I tried several types of carpets before settling on a dark blue indoor/outdoor carpet found at Lowes. For the carpet to keep its shape it needs to have a rigid backing. The more expensive carpet has stiff backing. Carpets with weak backing will stretch out of shape quickly. It looks bad and becomes a trip-hazard. A heavy, thick backing also keep dirt from migrating through the carpet.
Using heavy craft water, make a template of all the carpet and floor area you wish to cover. Using scissors and masking tape, piece the template together so it covers the the nooks and crannies.
 Flip the carpet and template over and tape the template to the carpet, after making sure both the carpet and template are flipped (failing to do this is a quick way of wasting a good piece of carpet). Then trace the outline of the template on the carpet's backing, with a Sharpie. Cut the carpet with a new, sharp utility knife. Change the blade if it starts to get harder to cut.  Use a straightedge to guide the knife on the long straight cuts. Take your time cutting. An tightly fitted carpet locks itself in place.
 Where the carpet meets the Factory hard floor, I use sticky-back 1" wide Velcro tape on the floor. The carpet has a strip of 1" wide Velcro, without the 'sticky' (adhesive), glued on with a solvent-based contact cement.
The indoor/outdoor carpet is thin enough not to make the carpet feel to deep or soft. It's pleasant to walk in bare feet and is a lot warmer. I'm finally happy with the carpet and it seems to be holding up fine after a lot of dirty campsites.
If it gets dirty where vacuuming doesn't clean it,  wash it. On a hot summer, the carpet can be rolled up and taken outside. Lay it out on the driveway and wash it with a push broom, a bucket of soapy water and a hose, with a nozzle. I do will do this once before pulling it out and using it, as a template, to cut a new, replacement piece of carpet.
The most difficult part of the job is cutting the first template. Subsequent replacements will use the old carpet as the template.
To cover the cab, lounge and bath cost less the $75. We should get 3-5 years out of the carpet before replacing, so the cost is minimal. It is more comfortable temperature wise, summer and winter, than hard floors would be with throw rugs or a single layer of carpeting.
 It's something to think about before engaging in a major project of removing the Factory carpeting and installing hard flooring.
You mentioned replacing the carpet in the cab, that is going to be another big job.
Get ready to remove a LOT of staples, in the floors and cab.
When LDs installs something, it's installed. They never try to save money on staples or polyurethane glue.

Have fun! Larry
Thanks Larry.
Never thought about removing the valances all together...
I guess when I pull them off I can see if we like it.
Also never thought about just making a "cover" of carpet to put over the carpet.  I agree...that blue carpet showes everything.  Oddly enough we love the blue/grey fabric on the couches and dinette.
Thanks again.

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 127910
I thought "water" might be a typo, but I googled "craft water" just in case, and, by golly, you _can_ buy it from craft stores; basically, fake water for floral arrangements. I'm still thinking Larry meant paper, however.

Eric
2005 Jayco 24SS

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 127911
"Valance-free LDs are draftier."
 Although I'm a strong proponent of removing the valances--I don't want anything narrowing my views!--I must admit that Larry is right. If you're traveling in really cold weather, you'll feel more cold air coming off the windows if the valances aren't there. It's only a few days a year that I notice it, so for me the trade-off is still worthwhile.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 127912
Hi Anthony, I am doing the same thing to my 26.5 mb, the floor is the easy part, pull out the old use it as a pattern and install! Staples work great! As for the dog house, it is a nightmare 1000 screws and glue from $&@#! Here is an idea, this is what I will do, I have access to several self service pick and pull salvage yards, and 1987-91 vans are plentiful here in CA. I bought a clean doghouse for under $75, and ordered an upholstered cover online from discount van and truck for $80 lots of fabric and color options and I like the look better! Too much carpet on the walls for me! Lol

Sent by wireless

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 127913
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"Valance-free LDs are draftier."
 Although I'm a strong proponent of removing the valances--I don't want anything narrowing my views!--I must admit that Larry is right. If you're traveling in really cold weather, you'll feel more cold air coming off the windows if the valances aren't there. It's only a few days a year that I notice it, so for me the trade-off is still worthwhile.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Thanks!!  I looked at your webite site but could not tell from the photos...did you remove the whole valance or just the left and right side? Was not sure if you left the top valance to hide the shade when it is up. Great site by the way. Really enjoyed reading it.

Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #12
Yahoo Message Number: 127914
"I begged Steve to install hard flooring throughout the interior...in vain"
 In 2011, Todd told me they had built at least one coach with vinyl flooring throughout, for owners with many dogs.  He quoted it as an extra $500.  The cab would still be carpeted.

Howard

 
Re: New owner with questions about updating interior.
Reply #13
Yahoo Message Number: 127915
"did you remove the whole valance or just the left and right side?"
 I completely removed all valances from both my first ('85) and current (2003) Lazy Dazes. As noted on my website, for privacy purposes I added small triangular pieces of "Frosty" pattern Con-Tact film--translucent but not transparent--to the side windows in the rearmost areas that had been covered by the bulky corner valances.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"