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Why two 6 volt house batteries?
Yahoo Message Number: 114951
I know at one time I read why the house batteries are two 6 volt instead of one 12 volt.  But I can't find the answer now.  Can someone enlighten me?  Thanks.

John 1994 22' TK Chug
 PS-Optima claims you gain nothing by 2 6-volt instead of one 12 volt.  M

Re: Why two 6 volt house batteries?
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 114952
"Optima claims you gain nothing by 2 6-volt instead of one 12 volt."
 That statement needs a lot of qualifying. It's true that all things (in particular, amp-hours of storage capacity) being equal, there's little benefit one way or the other *electrically speaking*. As long as you end up with 12VDC and 225 Ah, it doesn't much matter how you got there.
 However, as a purely practical matter, would you rather deal with the two 65-pound 6V batteries you have now... or a single 130-pound 12V battery of the same Ah capacity?

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Why two 6 volt house batteries?
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 114954
From: Andy Baird
 Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:14 PM
 To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [LD] Re: Why two 6 volt house batteries?

"Optima claims you gain nothing by 2 6-volt instead of one 12 volt."
 However, as a purely practical matter, would you rather deal with the two 65-pound 6V batteries you have now... or a single 130-pound 12V battery of the same Ah capacity?

Andy Baird

Andy,
 Maybe not the whole story. There can be advantages in scale with fewer and larger cells that come with using two 6 volt batteries in series (6 cells total) vs. two 12 volt batteries in parallel (12 cells total) given the same amp hour capacity of the two battery banks. The 6 volt batteries gain an internal space savings in having half the number of cell wall dividers, half the cell plate insulator mats, and half the cell interconnects. This allows the golf cart style battery to have more robust, heavy duty plates, all else being equal (though it's likely not).
 If you are going to use flooded batteries, a maybe slight advantage goes to two 6 volts for RV applications. I'm not surprised Optima would pooh-pooh that idea - - they make sealed batteries.
 I have no problem with AGM's, I use them in plane, glider and in my FJ Cruiser. When the flooded 6 volts wear out in Yonder, they'll be replaced in kind. I think flooded cells represent a better value if you don't mind adding water and can have the battery bank vented.

bumper
Yonder
Minden, NV

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bumper
"Yonder" '05 MB
"WLDBLU" glider trailer

Re: Why two 6 volt house batteries?
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 114961
Reply from Optima battery to my 6 volt battery question:
 You will want to stay with you 2 6 volt batteries.  Here is why.  The deep cycle 6 volt battery has more mass to it then a deep cycle 12 volt.  You would need 3 of the D31M blue top battery deep cycle to have the same reserve time or run time to equal the amount in 2 6 volt batteries.

John 1994 TK Chug

Re: Why two 6 volt house batteries?
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 114966
"The deep cycle 6 volt battery has more mass to it then a deep cycle 12 volt."
 I gotta say, I'm disappointed with the vagueness of Optima's replies. Since they never specify what battery model they're talking about, or what the amp-hour capacities are that they're comparing, their advice as given is meaningless.
 Nevertheless, I agree with what Bumper said: *in a Lazy Daze*, the typical factory-standard setup--two flooded-cell 225 Ah 6V batteries--is the most cost-effective. It beats AGMs by a large margin if your criterion is dollars per amp-hour of storage.
 Zero-maintenance AGMs are definitely more convenient, though, which is probably why the factory has switched to AGMs for 2010.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"