Winterizing with compressed air December 23, 2009, 12:37:01 am Yahoo Message Number: 108722My Lazy Daze manual that came with my 1997 RB doesn't go into great detail on blowing out the water system. So my question is where do I blow air into the water system? Do I use the city water connection? Above freezing in Pacific Northwest after a couple of weeks of sub-freezing temperatures. I had a heater going but I think the water system froze or got close. No leaks yet, pump works and holds pressure. Hopefully I didn't have another learning experience...Jim & Donna 1997 Teal RB
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #1 – December 23, 2009, 02:54:00 am Yahoo Message Number: 108724Quote From: Jim Smeall To: Lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:36 PM Subject: [LD] Winterizing with compressed air"My Lazy Daze manual that came with my 1997 RB doesn't go into great detail on blowing out the water system. So my question is where do I blow air into the water system? Do I use the city water connection? Above freezing in Pacific Northwest after a couple of weeks of sub-freezing temperatures. I had a heater going but I think the water system froze or got close. No leaks yet, pump works and holds pressure. Hopefully I didn't have another learning experience...Jim & Donna 1997 Teal RB"Jim, If you don't but the kit from LD (I didn't) then you'll need to cobble together the parts. Install a "T" fitting just downstream of the pump. To this add a 90 degree on/off valve and a quick connect for your compressor. Note that you'll probably want to use an oilless compressor so you don't risk blowing any oil into the lines. I use 65 psi to blow out the system. Also you'll need to make a blow gun seal to blow out the sink traps.bumper
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #2 – December 23, 2009, 08:35:55 am Yahoo Message Number: 108728Quote "My Lazy Daze manual that came with my 1997 RB doesn't go into great detail on blowing out the water system. So my question is where do I blow air into the water system? Do I use the city water connection? Above freezing in Pacific Northwest after a couple of weeks of sub-freezing temperatures. I had a heater going but I think the water system froze or got close. No leaks yet, pump works and holds pressure. Hopefully I didn't have another learning experience..."Jim & Donna 1997 Teal RB No, you disconnect the water line from the water pump and connect the compressor hose (with an adaptor) at that point to blow the lines. If you would like for me to send you complete instructions from my LD manual, email me back. Otherwise, Google "how to winterize an RV with compressed air" and you will find plenty of advice.Chris Horst
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #3 – December 23, 2009, 10:11:24 am Yahoo Message Number: 108731Bumper says: "Also you'll need to make a blow gun seal to blow out the sink traps."I just pour a few ounces of the 'pink stuff' in the traps. My gallon jug has lasted me for years.Glen w/SOB[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #4 – December 23, 2009, 10:41:38 am Yahoo Message Number: 108733Quote From: Glen R. Fotre, CCIM To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: [LD] Re: Winterizing with compressed airBumper says: "Also you'll need to make a blow gun seal to blow out the sink traps." I just pour a few ounces of the 'pink stuff' in the traps. My gallon jug has lasted me for years.Glen w/SOBWell you could . . . but then you wouldn't be winterizing with compressed air, now would you? Besides, I've always been penny smart and pound foolish (I was also born in England). It tickles me to do some things on-the-cheap, and air is free. No hassle at all if you are already using compressed air to blow out the water system. To do the drains, I use a chunk of foam rubber with a hole in it, a quick blast of air is all it takes. One could also use one of those low pressure high volume inflators to do the deed (though that obviously wouldn't work on the water lines).bumper
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #5 – December 23, 2009, 11:17:00 am Yahoo Message Number: 108734Something to keep in mind when winterizing: if your rig has an outside shower, you need to deal with that as well as the interior plumbing. My rig came with one when I bought it used, and since it's not a feature I have any need for, I tend to forget it's there. As a fulltimer, I've never had to winterize Skylark, but if I did, that shower would be easy to overlook.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #6 – December 23, 2009, 02:04:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108740Quote "Something to keep in mind when winterizing: if your rig has an outside shower, you need to deal with that as well as the interior plumbing. My rig came with one when I bought it used, and since it's not a feature I have any need for, I tend to forget it's there. As a fulltimer, I've never had to winterize Skylark, but if I did, that shower would be easy to overlook."Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/ Even though I have winterized multiple times over the last 7 years of LD ownership, I still pull the LD manual out and follow it step by step when winterizing and dewinterizing. Otherwise I'd forget the city water inlet every time since I never use it.Chris Horst Arvada, CO - where it's snowing and a white Christmas is guaranteed. 2002 30' IB
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #7 – December 23, 2009, 07:43:17 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108750Bumper says: "Also you'll need to make a blow gun seal to blow out the sink traps." I just pour a few ounces of the 'pink stuff' in the traps. My gallon jug has lasted me for years.Glen w/SOB Well you could . . . but then you wouldn't be winterizing with compressed air, now would you? Besides, I've always been penny smart and pound foolish (I was also born in England). It tickles me to do some things on-the-cheap, and air is free. No hassle at all if you are already using compressed air toblow out the water system. To do the drains, I use a chunk of foam rubber with a hole in it, a quick blast of air is all it takes. One could also use one of those low pressure high volume inflators to do the deed (though that obviously wouldn't work onthe water lines).bumperJEEZ bumper, I blow out the supply lines first with compressed air; then pour the pink stuff in the "P" traps!PS: Air is not free, when you are compressing it with APS electricity!Glen[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #8 – December 23, 2009, 08:45:34 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108751QuoteJEEZ bumper, I blow out the supply lines first with compressed air; then pour the pink stuff in the "P" traps! Glen This was the method we used, too. It was my understanding that once the water had been blown out of the "P" traps, if "pink stuff" had not been poured into the traps odors could travel into the RV. Some folks used vegetable oil in place of RV antifreeze, but that idea did not appeal to me. The small amount of RV antifreeze used in the traps is easily rinsed out when de-winterizing. We also used a small amount of RV antifreeze to flush the toilet, if it was necessary to use it while winterized.Sharon N. Crossville, TN
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #9 – December 23, 2009, 09:13:06 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108755Quote From: ladysibley To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: [LD] Re: Winterizing with compressed airThis was the method we used, too. It was my understanding that once the water had been blown out of the "P" traps, if "pink stuff" had not been poured into the traps odors could travel into the RV. Some folks used vegetable oil in place of RV antifreeze, but that idea did not appeal to me. The small amount of RV antifreeze used in the traps is easily rinsed out when de-winterizing. We also used a small amount of RV antifreeze to flush the toilet, if it was necessary to use it while winterized.Sharon N. Crossville, TNEven with the P traps empty, blown out with compressed air, I've never had a problem with odors from the equally empty gray water tank. Guess that's 'cause we don't put anything down the sink drains save water, a bit of soap, and a trace of used toothpaste (g). Never felt the need to put propylene glycol in there for the winter. "Yonder" now lives pampered but not spoiled in a heated (50 degrees) garage next to our house, so I don't bother to winterize anymore. I do drain all the water, including the heater, between uses though.bumper Yonder Minden (no pink stuff), NV
Re: Winterizing with compressed air Reply #10 – December 23, 2009, 09:46:13 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108757Quote"Yonder" now lives pampered but not spoiled in a heated (50 degrees) garage next to our house, so I don't bother to winterize anymore. I do drain all the water, including the heater, between uses though.bumper Yonder Minden (no pink stuff), NV "Yonder" must be a very happy LD! :^DSharon N. Crossville, TN