finally made a decision August 24, 2009, 11:24:27 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105226After all the research, e-mails, and advice, I finally just bit the bullet and ordered theWinegardTR-1518Carry Out Fully Automatic Portable Satellite along with the ladder mount and the ac/dc adapter. It means no actual drilling or installation at least right away. I can either leave it mounted on the ladder when under open skys, or if need be, carry it out from under obstacles.The price wasn't too bad...found it on sale, and it is supposed to come w/50ft. of coax and 50 ft. of power cable.I guess for now, I can pass them in thru the driver side window. Eventually I will want to figure out a permanent access hook up but this means no converter, no need to swap out the TV, and being able to sight/connect automatically--a boon for us solo folks. Even tho it can handle dual tvs, I will only have one receiver so who cares! One down side is that as far as i can figure out, the small 13 in. i have in the bdrm won't be useable unless there is someway to switch the receiver back and forth. Right now, I'll just not use it.The cost for DNS for the four network channels is $12 a mo,. or $149//13 months for both east/west feeds.Still going thru stick house DISH subscription w/Bob--we will split the base cost, he'll get HDTV and I don't know yet if they will let me have DNS in the RV. If anyone wants to know, I'll keep the list updated on how this works. [And Lorna--I trust him..after almost 40 years we know each other pretty well...grin!!].Next is to get the whole house inverter and another solar panel installed. Guess that means after dropping off Mom in AZ its off to Am Solar! Gini Free and Junah-Dober Gal Celie and Nihm, Tonkinese kitlets "Kooch" the little red LD that could "Growing old is mandatory. Growing wise is optional."[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: finally made a decision Reply #1 – August 25, 2009, 12:08:40 am Yahoo Message Number: 105230Gina, You could redo the coax (cable) wiring in your coach to make things a bit more workable. On Yonder, I did the following. Note that I have a manual dish on the roof and also have an "F" connector outside so I can hook up to my home's satellite system when Yonder is in garage. First you'll want to rewire the stock outside cable connector so it will instead provide a satellite antenna input. Most new digital TVs have an input selector on their remote controls or on the TV itself. This negates the need for the stock coaxial switch that LD used on many models. This coaxial switch (or another purchased at Radio Trash or Home Depot, will be used to switch the sat receiver from roof to outside "F" connector (remote dish). The sat receiver output can then be connected to both TV's. The main TV, being closest to the receiver will probably use the sat receiver component video output (if it has one) or alternately "S" TV out or the RCA plug out put for video and audio. The sat receiver "F" connector (coax) output can be routed to the bedroom TV. Other devices, like a DVD player, will be wired to an unused TV input. The rooftop off-the-air antenna will connect to the TV's F connector (TV antenna) input. Another option, if you won't be using both TV's at the same time, is to use an AB switch to route the sat receiver output to one TV or the other - - though this won't be as convenient as the above.bumper Yonder
Re: finally made a decision Reply #2 – August 25, 2009, 12:30:32 am Yahoo Message Number: 105236Next is to get the whole house inverter and another solar panel Quoteinstalled. Guess that means after dropping off Mom in AZ its off to Am Solar! =========================== Gini: If Dish gives you a bad time about traveling in the RV, why not switch to DirecTV, who will give you consent to travel and keep the east/west coast connections with very little hassle.Anne JohnsonLovely La Verne, CA
Re: finally made a decision Reply #3 – August 25, 2009, 10:01:06 am Yahoo Message Number: 105243I don't know yet if they will letQuoteme have DNS in the RV. The law (FCC regulations) is that you cannot have both "locals" and DNS on the same account at the same time. However, since you must go through a 3rd-party company (All American Direct) to get DNS if you are a Dish Network customer, you might be able to get away with it (assuming Bob subscribes to "locals" through his Dish Network account)...I don't know how closely All American Direct checks with Dish Network...you do have to give them your Dish Network account number when filling out the RV Waiver, but whether or not they check with Dish Network to see whether or not you subscribe to the locals, I don't know. But, I guess nothing ventured nothing gained. If they turn down your RV Waiver because you have locals, you can always get your own account.Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Re: finally made a decision Reply #4 – August 25, 2009, 11:54:28 am Yahoo Message Number: 105251"...and I don't know yet if they will letQuoteme have DNS in the RV..." Gini Free Gini, it will be interesting to see if you can get DNS with the Dish account being at your primary home. I doubt you will. I recently switched to DirecTV from Comcast and even tho I take one receiver from home (not the main DVR one) with us in the LD, DirecTV would not let me get DNS. Actually, it's a federal govt rule, not DirecTV's. However, I have always had local stations via DirecTV while traveling here in CO as long as I have been not much farther than 200 miles from home (still within the spot beam). And when you are farther than 200 miles from home you can always put up the batwing and get local stations wherever you are but you WILL need to hook up a digital TV converter for that to work now.Chris
Re: finally made a decision Reply #5 – August 25, 2009, 12:36:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105258In order to get DNS stations in an RV, you must create a separate RV account with DirecTV. You cannot do it with a home account. You can read all about it on the DirecTV forum http://forums.directv.com/pe/index.jsp Do a search in the forum for RV account.Dick
Re: finally made a decision Reply #6 – August 25, 2009, 12:55:49 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105261Quote "In order to get DNS stations in an RV, you must create a separate RV account with DirecTV. You cannot do it with a home account. You can read all about it on the DirecTV forum http://forums.directv.com/pe/index.jsp Do a search in the forum for RV account."Dick Dick, Gini has Dish, not DirecTV but I believe the process is the same for both companies. Chris
Re: finally made a decision Reply #7 – August 25, 2009, 12:57:34 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105262....must create a separate RV account with DirecTV. You cannot do it with a home account......QuoteDick This topic is of great interest to us as we are finally checking into satellite TV - I checked the Forum you mentioned Dick, but felt it required too much digging - thus I went to DirecTV's home page and up at the top, my right hand, corner is a link for different types of service re: "Transportation" On the Transportation link is a link for RV - go to FAQ and it is very clear what can/can't do - Hope this helps, But, remember Linda is the smartest on satellite TV stuff.Virginia Starr and Midnight Roadie
Re: finally made a decision Reply #8 – August 25, 2009, 01:10:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105266From: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of chorst_2000 Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:56 AM To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Subject: [LD] Re: finally made a decision
Re: finally made a decision Reply #9 – August 25, 2009, 01:21:08 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105268From: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jensjems Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:57 AM To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Subject: [LD] Re: finally made a decision....must create a separate RV account with DirecTV. You cannot do it with a home account......QuoteDick This topic is of great interest to us as we are finally checking into satellite TV - I checked the Forum you mentioned Dick, but felt it required too much digging - thus I went to DirecTV's home page and up at the top, my right hand, corner is a link for different types of service re: "Transportation" On the Transportation link is a link for RV - go to FAQ and it is very clear what can/can't do - Hope this helps, But, remember Linda is the smartest on satellite TV stuff.Virginia Starr and Midnight RoadieLinda does seem to be very knowledgeable on satellite TV, but remember that there are also many of us who have been with satellite TV long before there was such a thing as DirecTV and Dish. Back when we had to hand crank a 12-foot dish trying to find a satellite signal out there somewhere in the Clarke Belt. Before there were "rules" or even signal encryption.Dick
Re: finally made a decision Reply #10 – August 25, 2009, 01:43:06 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105270....had to hand crank...to find a satellite signal out there somewhere in the Clarke Belt. Before there were "rules" or even signal encryption. .. DickTechnological advancements are wonderful -Aren't you glad you don't have to "Crank" that pole out anymore ;o)Virginia
Re: finally made a decision Reply #11 – August 25, 2009, 02:12:25 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105272From: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com [mailto:lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jensjems Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:42 AM To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Subject: [LD] Re: finally made a decision....had to hand crank...to find a satellite signal out there somewhere in the Clarke Belt. Before there were "rules" or even signal encryption. .. DickTechnological advancements are wonderful -Aren't you glad you don't have to "Crank" that pole out anymore ;o)VirginiaThat is so true. Most folks have no idea what we went through in those early days. To give you some idea. Our first satellite dish was made by Drake Co., the same people who gave us the first relatively inexpensive receiver. It was solid sheet metal. Both azimuth and elevation were adjusted by using trailer tongue jacks modified for use on a satellite dish. The feedhorn was just that, a feedhorn. One polarization and it had to be used with a block down-converter mounted behind the dish. To change from horizontal to vertical we used a TV antenna rotator to which the feedhorn was attached. You would set the control box in the house to north or east/west to change polarities. The receiver had no channels per se. It was continuous tuning like an analog broadcast receiver. In the Idaho winter, changing channels was a real challenge. My wife and I used walky-talkies to communicate from the house to the yard. First I would look up the satellite and channel and set the feedhorn polarity with the rotator. Then I tuned the receiver to the approximate frequency. I would then wade out in hip-deep snow to get to the dish, and start cranking the dish back and forth, and up and down waiting for my wife to tell me she had seen something. It wouldn't necessarily be what we were looking for. Once something was showing on the TV, I would make small changes in the dish while she gave me the signal strength over the walky-talky. If it was the channel we were looking for, we could then fine tune everything and hope for the best. This could take 15 or 20 minutes just to tune in a single channel. Yes Virginia, I am very glad those days are behind me.Dick
Re: finally made a decision Reply #12 – August 25, 2009, 11:59:41 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105283....Most folks have no idea what we went through in those early days. ....In the Idaho winter, changing channels was a real challenge. My wife and I used walky-talkies to communicate...I would then wade out in hip-deep snow to get to the dish, and start cranking the dish back and forth, and up and down waiting for my wife to tell me she had seen something. It wouldn't necessarily be what we were looking for...This could take 15 or 20 minutes just to tune in a single channel. Yes Virginia, I am very glad those days are behind me. Dick And all I had to worry about as a young girl was if there really was a Santa Claus 'o) You were a great sport to wade out into the snow like that and tackle such a task to get just any channel - yet today we can't select from the zillion channels available and we want more - go figLoved your story Dick -Virginia Starr and Midnight Roadie
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