Re: Where does the generator go? Reply #25 – August 03, 2009, 12:30:53 am Yahoo Message Number: 104433Hi, I've read about those devices before. I will probably consider installing one later, but for now when I'm done with the project, I'll be able to monitor amps and volts going into the batteries by using the gauges
270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #26 – August 31, 2009, 12:42:33 am Yahoo Message Number: 105414Hi group, Just an update on the project. I finished the alternator bracket fabrication. I was able to verify that the alternator does fit on the Lazy Daze but I put the project on hold for a couple of already planned camping trips. Now I'm back at it until completion. I've posted pic's on flickr. I'm transferring the whipple supercharger from my 83 chevy diesel van to the 85 22FL Lazy Daze. A diesel engine without a turbo or supercharger has very poor horsepower at high elevations. I bought an external voltage regulator for the 270 amp Leese Neville alternator and the voltage can be adjusted from the driver's dash. This way after the house batteries has a full charge at 14.4 volts, then the voltage can be turned down to 13.4 volts for a float charge. Check out the pictures on flikr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22122583@N02/ I'll post more pic's when all complete and will update with the results.Billy J. Brower 1985 22FL diesel Lazy Daze http://www.flickr.com/photos/22122583@N02/
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #27 – September 01, 2009, 01:36:21 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105454BillyNice work, I am sure you will love the results..Garry
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #28 – September 01, 2009, 01:44:33 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105456Billy,What's your thoughts on Gear Vendors unit? Was it stock?Neal
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #29 – September 01, 2009, 07:44:13 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105464Hi Neal, The Gear Vendors overdrive unit is not stock. The original owner had it installed 10 years later. The Gear Vendors does drop the RPM quite a bit when
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #30 – September 01, 2009, 08:11:46 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105465Hey Billy...When you talk about "trans sp
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #31 – September 01, 2009, 09:38:05 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105469Hi John. There's an aftermarket remote mounted spin-on trans filter on my Lazy Daze that's hooked up
LD Supercharged diesel project Reply #32 – September 01, 2009, 11:50:45 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105472Billy,I have been off the list for some time.I am very interested
Re: LD Supercharged diesel project Reply #33 – September 02, 2009, 08:06:29 pm Yahoo Message Number: 105489Hi Jerry, Yes it's the 6.2L GM diesel made by Detroit Diesel Corp. Right now I'm
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #34 – November 18, 2009, 11:33:52 pm Yahoo Message Number: 107736Hi group, The project is complete. The 270 amp leese neville alternator puts out over 150 amps at idle. I have an on/off switch and voltage regulator adjustment knob mounted on the dash above the volt and amp meters. The custom air filter box took a while to make along with other mods. The Lazy Daze has a lot of power now with the supercharger. We're taking it to Missouri this Friday to visit family so when I get back, I'll post all the results. We'll be traveling I-40 most of the way. We hope to meet some of you on the way. I posted some more pics on flicker.Billy J. Brower 1985 22FL diesel Lazy Daze http://www.flickr.com/photos/22122583@N02
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #35 – November 19, 2009, 12:16:15 am Yahoo Message Number: 107738"Hi group, The project is complete. "BillyHats off to you. That is a beautiful job of packaging. Bet you spent way too many late nights getting it all together . Have you had a chance to weigh your LD with all the additions?Can't wait to see it in person. Enjoy your trip.Larry
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #36 – November 19, 2009, 12:27:25 am Yahoo Message Number: 107739Hi Larry, I haven't had it on the scales yet. Maybe I'll have it weighed at one of the truck stops on the way. With a full time job (not retired yet) I did spend many late nights working on it. I'll see you aga
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #37 – November 30, 2009, 10:06:17 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108047Hi group The supercharger and 270 amp alternator Missouri trip was a success. I need to do some fine tuning though. We left Simi Valley, CA Friday night and camped out at the flying j
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #38 – November 30, 2009, 11:52:46 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108049"I left the fridge plugged to 120 ac power and with the heater fan cycling, using a power hog coffee maker and using the microwave several times while parked, when we were ready to leave, the battery voltage was at 10.7v." That's a good way to permanently damage the batteries. While it's impossible to say exactly how far you drained them in the absence of a Link-10 type battery monitor, a steady-state reading of 10.7 volts is way below 50% of their capacity, and that's bad news. Unless you plan to replace the pair every year, you may want to rethink your usage. Broad rule of thumb: never go below 12.1V.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #39 – December 01, 2009, 05:25:12 am Yahoo Message Number: 108053"The supercharger and 270 amp alternator Missouri trip was a success. I need to do some fine tuning though. The fuel mileage was 12 to 14 mpg at 65 to 70mph. I'm planning on playing with the fuel adjustment and fuel timing to try to get the most power and economy. Billy J. Brower 1985 22FL diesel "Glad your trip was a success. Fuel economy sounds great. Sounds like you're getting the kinks worked out of an awesome electrical system. Did you run the generator at all? Did you try that transmission out before you installed the supercharger?Good luck on the tweaks.George & Helen '84 20'RD diesel__ From: billy billyjbrower@...> To: lifewithalazydazerv@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 10:05:59 PM Subject: [LD] Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel projectHi groupLazy Daze http://www.flickr com/photos/ 22122583@ N02
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #40 – December 01, 2009, 10:13:05 am Yahoo Message Number: 108057Quote Hi group The supercharger and 270 amp alternator Missouri trip was a success. I need to do some fine tuning though. We left Simi Valley, CA Friday night and camped out at the flying j in Kingman AZ. I left the fridge plugged to 120 ac power and with the heater fan cycling, using a power hog coffee maker and using the microwave several times while parked, when we were ready to leave, the battery voltage was at 10.7v. The lowest adjustment on the voltage regulator is 13.2v which allowed the alternator amps to max out causing the belt to slip and squeal when first turned on. I had to idle the engine first until the amp meter read below 250 (which takes about a few minutes) to prevent the belt from squealing while driving. With the batteries discharged at 10.7v, it took about 3 to 4 hours of driving to fully charge them. I'm planning on replacing the dash mounted potentiometer with one of a higher resistance so the adjustment can be made at a lower volts. I ran the fridge on propane for the rest of the trip. Billy, you've invested a lot of time and money into building your project LD, but you are also in the process of throwing money away, due to a lack of proper research. As Andy said, at 10.7V, your batteries are way below 50% - actually, about 0%. Deep-cycle batteries will last years when used moderately, or a few hundred deep-cycles, defined usually as to 50% state-of charge. At 0% once, there is already some permanent damage, to an unknown degree. You may actually have now much less capacity for charge storage than you had before your trip. Also, no amount of charge current capacity will force the batteries to charge faster than they will accept it, and that tapers dramatically as the charge builds. If the batteries are depleted, they will charge fast at first, but likely take 8 hrs of driving or more to reach full charge. If the other electrical appliances can take it, or the battery charging is on a separate circuit from the house 12V, you can charge the batteries at a higher voltage. They will, however, then evaporate the electrolyte, which requires carefully monitoring and replenishing levels. A charge-integrating battery monitor will give you a good idea of state of charge, but if you have damaged the batteries, even that will not give a useful indication now. Proper charging is a complicated multi-stage process. There are many valuable links to proper battery and 12V system maintenance at this site, which will provide you with all the information you need to evaluate your system, make modifications, and protect your investment.Steve
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #41 – December 01, 2009, 06:41:05 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108079I didn't take the portable generator on this trip, I left the four batteries in the generator compartment. Yes, I've used this trans before supercharging the engine. I've had this transmission in the motorhome for over a year now.Billy J. Brower 1985 22FL diesel Lazy Daze http://www.flickr.com/photos/22122583@N02
Re: 270 amp alternator and supercharged diesel project Reply #42 – December 01, 2009, 08:11:51 pm Yahoo Message Number: 108081Hi Andy and Steve, Sorry, I meant that my battery bank voltage went down to 11.7v the first night, not 10.7v. I know that 11.7v is too low so that's why I unplugged the fridge to run on propane for the rest of the trip. For rest of the time, voltage didn't go under 12v. I have a xantrex prosine 3.0 inverter that has a multistage 120a 12v charger. I copy the three stage charging procedure by adjusting the voltage regulator. The way I understand it is that I can have a faster bulk charge with using the 270 amp alternator and with having eight house batteries, 270 amps divided up into eight batteries shouldn't be high enough to evaporate the electrolyte excessively. The absorption stage is when the voltage is at 14.4 volts and the amps will decrease in time. When the amps read close to zero is when I turn down the voltage to 13.5 for a float charge. This project really didn't cost very much money. I already had the supercharger on my van that I swapped over to the motorhome. I won the 270amp alternator on ebay for $250. The four 1150 batteries were good used ones from work that I traded four junk ones that was in my garage at no cost. The four 6volt batteries cost $300 at sams club. I bought the inverter a couple of years ago on ebay for $1200 it was a factory refurbished unit. The digital gauges were about $300 on ebay. It did take some time to make the alternator bracket and air filter box. I did all the labor my self and my friend did the welding as a favor as I do favors for him too.Billy J. Brower 1985 22FL diesel Lazy Daze http://www.flickr.com/photos/22122583@N02
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