IB floor plan jpg request July 22, 2009, 09:05:12 am Yahoo Message Number: 104083The url http://www.lazydaze.com/Floorplans/265ib.htm is blank. Would someone with that image post it or put it in the photos section.Thanks!
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #1 – July 22, 2009, 09:22:45 am Yahoo Message Number: 104084I have one for the 1998 model I could send you. I assume you know that model is no longer manufactured. Hence, no floor plan on the website.Dick
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #2 – July 22, 2009, 12:07:11 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104089Ah, that's why. So the only IB available is 31ft then?
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #4 – July 22, 2009, 02:45:28 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104094"So the only IB available is 31ft then?" I believe the factory said that the 32' Kodiak model was available in either a twin bed or island bed configuration. The one on display there now is a TB, but they have at least two other Kodiak chassis that they could build as 32' IBs if someone placed an order for same. I agree with Chris that it's a pity this model will be a limited-edition special; it has a lot going for it, and as we've discussed, is far less expensive than comparable Kodiak-based coaches from Born Free and others.Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #5 – July 23, 2009, 01:48:31 am Yahoo Message Number: 104106I have to agree with Chris and Andy...I think it's a shame that the 32'LD on the Kodiak chassis will be a limited-edition special. I'd love to have one, even if it is on an "orphan" chassis. It just looks like a really well-thought-out RV, with a reasonable price, given all its extras. I'd like to see the wheelbase-to-length ratio a bit higher than 56%, but it still should handle well. Interesting timing for the cover story about the 32' Kodiak LD in the August issue of MotorHome magazine. Day late, and a dollar short?Sharon N.Crossville, TN
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #6 – July 23, 2009, 08:40:28 am Yahoo Message Number: 104111The orphaned chassis is a bit scary. Won't parts/repairs quickly become an issue?Richard Aloha, OR
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #7 – July 23, 2009, 09:38:14 am Yahoo Message Number: 104114"The orphaned chassis is a bit scary. Won't parts/repairs quickly become an issue?" I don't think so. As I pointed out in a message a few days ago, that version of the Kodiak chassis has been in production essentially unchanged for about five years, and it has been used in a large number of trucks and RVs. Remember, this is GM we're talking about--they don't build anything unless they can sell at least a few hundred thousand a year. I don't have actual production numbers, but it's a safe bet that there are plenty of Kodiak chassis out there and plenty of mechanics who know how to maintain them. Parts are required to be stocked for ten years, and third parties will jump in after that to ensure that there's a supply, just as they do with all automotive products. And of course the Kodiak shares many parts with other GM products. No, I really don't see it as a significant problem. If you can still get parts and service for a Lazy Daze built on a 1984 Chevy 350 chassis--and I know from personal experience that you can--then I expect it'll be a l-o-n-g time before anybody has to worry about getting their Chevy Kodiak chassis serviced. :-)Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #8 – July 23, 2009, 01:23:40 pm Yahoo Message Number: 104120"The orphaned chassis is a bit scary. Won't parts/repairs quickly become an issue?" I would hesitate to buy a new Kodiak now. Sure normal maintenance parts will probably be available for years but what about repair parts. Things like dash parts, window mechanisms, HVAC controls and all the other little pieces that are not stocked by aftermarket vendors and that can only be purchased from the OEM dealer. Since GM is getting out of the medium duty market, there will be no OEM dealers to buy parts from. The stock of available dealer-only parts will dry up in a few years. I don't know about you but when I buy something as expensive as a new car or MH, I plan on keeping it a long time. I want to be sure that all repair parts are readily available for a long time. This will not be the case with the Kodiak unless someone else takes over Kodiak production. This is a similar situation to many Class a motor homes in which the manufacturer goes bankrupt. All of the specialized parts, custom made for the particular MH, become obsolete. When I left my job at LAX, we had several million dollars worth of Neoplan buses in mothballs due to needed specialized, manufacturer-only parts. They were not available due to Neoplan's bankruptcy. Kodiaks will suffer the same fate within a few years. Many motor homes are still on the road many years after most vans and pickups have been salvage. The average MH racks up only 6000-8000 miles a year and it can take decades to wear the chassis out. The majorities of Kodiaks are built for commercial purposes and are worn out within ten years or so. Plan on parts becoming very scarce at this time.My Kodiak fantasy is dead. The good news is that there are other suitable chassis's available if LD wishes to continue producing the 32' models. Right now LD is discourage and not willing to invest more money in another manufacturer's chassis until they are sure the chassis will continue to be available and the market picks up. This experiment cost LD a lot of money and time. As I said earlier, I would not buy a Kodiak unless a very substantial discount is given, something I doubt LD will do. Just being built on a four-year-old chassis reduces it value. I wonder if the chassis will receive a usable warranty. A major reason why I own a Class C is that the mechanical and cab parts are readily available and should continue to be since there are million of Ford vans on the road. The reason why you can keep a 1985 LD on the road is that millions of Chevy vans wee built and enough of them remain on the road to justify the aftermarket's continuing support. There are not going to be enough Kodiaks on the road to have this kind of support IMO.Larry
Re: IB floor plan jpg request Reply #9 – July 24, 2009, 12:04:11 am Yahoo Message Number: 104136Quote The orphaned chassis is a bit scary. Won't parts/repairs quickly become an issue?Richard Aloha, OR Here's another view: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2009-05-31-gm-bankruptcy-warranty-questions_N.htmor: http://tinyurl.com/mk8bljSharon N.Crossville, TN
the Orphaned Kodiak risk (was Re: IB floor plan jpg request) Reply #10 – July 24, 2009, 10:01:15 am Yahoo Message Number: 104139Very thorough and insightful. Thanks Larry.
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