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Life in a Lazy Daze
Yahoo Message Number: 103876
This is a different sort of post than the usual for this forum. There is nothing wrong with KoKo, all systems are "go". We don't want an opinion about something to buy. [Tho my birthday is coming up and SeeLevel gauges would be most appreciated] This post is about experiencing what we bought KoKo for - seeing new places.

We have been wandering around southern Utah for over two months. We have only used 50 gallons of gas in KoKo. However, we have used a lot of gasoline in the toad, Pelli, driving the back roads.
 Today, we are parked at 9,050 feet overlooking Cathedral Valley 3,000 feet below. This is the northern section of Capital Reef NP. It's a place where very, very few people venture. It is a decent dirt road to where we are and only five miles from the nearest paved road.

We have Verizon service and not so good TV. But, the view is very worthwhile.
 We are all alone, but not lonely. It is entirely possible that we will not see another human during our stay. Oops, Dorothy just saw another RV heading to Meeks Lake in the distance.

Our location is 38 29 184, 111 26 608. If anyone knows how to tell Google Maps how to show a location using lat & long and to then be able to share that map with others, please tell me. It may be a false memory, but I thought I had done it in the past. The new Google Gears is mystifying to me. Private, off forum message please!

This MAY show you our general location: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=37.0625,-95.677068&spn=32.885543,55.634766&z=4 plus a few photo's taken by others.

#################### PS If any readers will be touring Utah this or next month, please private message us, we might be able to get together and share stories.
We are mostly boondockers, but an occasionally state park is OK.

Cheers, Don & Dorothy
Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy


Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 103879
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" Our location is 38 29 184, 111 26 608. If anyone knows how to tell Google Maps how to show a location using lat & long and to then be able to share that map with others, please tell me. It may be a false memory, but I thought I had done it in the past. The new Google Gears is mystifying to me. Private, off forum message please!

This MAY show you our general location: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=37.0625,-95.677068&spn=32.885543,55.634766&z=4 plus a few photo's taken by others.

PS If any readers will be touring Utah this or next month, please private message us, we might be able to get together and share stories.
We are mostly boondockers, but an occasionally state park is OK."

Cheers, Don & Dorothy
38.29184,-111.26608  This worked.  Paste it into Google Maps

Chris
Formerly: 2002 30' IB


Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 103910
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" Our location is 38 29 184, 111 26 608. If anyone knows how to tell Google Maps how to show a location using lat & long and to then be able to share that map with others, please tell me.



This notation also works:

N 38.29184, W 111.26608

Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
The decimal notation is the the correct one for google maps, but N 38.29184 is NOT the same place as 38 29 184.  If I understand it correctly, you have to convert the seconds part to decimal first by dividing by 60.  In other words, change the 29 184 part to 29.184 and divide this by 60 to get .48640.  Then combine that with the 38 to get 38.48640.
 You've now got the decimal equivalent to 38 29 184.  Do the same for the longitude and the decimal cooridinates are:
 38.48640, -111.44347  You also need to put a minus sign in front of the 111 to indicate west longitude.

If  I did this right you should be here:
 http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=38.48640,-11\
1.44347&sll=38.485509,-111.440763&sspn=0.045014,0.076818&ie=UTF8&ll=38.4\
 86038,-111.443982&spn=0.022507,0.038409&z=15

Wish I was out there with you guys.

John in Reno

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Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 103912
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The decimal notation is the the correct one for google maps, but N 38.29184 is NOT the same place as 38 29 184.


 You're correct, of course.  I hadn't noticed the spaces between the numbers, mainly because there were no notations such as: 38° 29' 184", 111° 26' 608"
 However, the main point that I was trying to get across is still valid: that using "N" and "W" with the decimal equivalent of the GPS coordinates will work when entering them into Google Maps.

Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Linda Hylton

Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 103918
"38.29184 is NOT the same place as 38 29 184."
 I thought the same thing and was on the point of posting about it... when I realized that one can't have more than 59 minutes or seconds, so 184 seconds should never occur in a longitude.
 So, Don... now we're all really curious! Care to tell us just what you meant by separating the numbers with spaces that way? Were you giving us a decimal degrees reading, or degrees/minutes/seconds, or...?

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 103920
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So, Don... now we're all really curious! Care to tell us just what you meant by separating the numbers with spaces that way? Were you giving us a decimal degrees reading, or degrees/minutes/seconds, or...?


 Maybe there was supposed to be a decimal in the last number, i.e., 29' 18.4"?

Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Linda Hylton

Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 103937
I didn't know how to convert the formats, but found this neat tool that provides the satelite google map on the same page, which makes it easy.

http://boulter.com/gps/

When I entered Don's info, they provided these formats:

38 31:382 -111 44:994

Decimal Degrees (WGS84) Latitude Longitude 38.523033 -111.7499

Degrees, Minutes & Seconds Latitude Longitude N38 31 22 W111 44 59

GPS Latitude Longitude N 38 31.382 W 111 44.994
 I think someone should go check it out right away and see if Don and Dorothy are really hiding out there.  Perhaps Bumper could do a little flyover?  :)

Tessa in TX

Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #9
Yahoo Message Number: 103938
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So, Don... now we're all really curious! Care to tell us just what you meant by separating the numbers with spaces that way? Were you
giving us a

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decimal degrees reading, or degrees/minutes/seconds, or...?



 Maybe there was supposed to be a decimal in the last number, i.e., 29' 18.4"?

Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
That's kind of what I assumed because Garmin's default notation is degrees, minutes, and fraction of minutes -(hddd mm.mmm")

So there are three different ways to express the same thing:  the traditional  - ddd mm ss,  Googles - ddd.dddd, and then Garmins ddd.mm.mmm.

No wonder I'm always lost!

John

Re: Life in a Lazy Daze
Reply #10
Yahoo Message Number: 103939
Forgot to add a note to Don.  If you use Google maps a lot you should switch your GPS default to use their notation - then you don't need to do a conversion.

John

 
Life in a Daze - Lat & Long
Reply #11
Yahoo Message Number: 104147
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:12:02 -0000, "Andy Baird" wrote:

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"38.29184 is NOT the same place as 38 29 184."
 I thought the same thing and was on the point of posting about it... when I realized that one can't have more than 59 minutes or seconds, so 184 seconds should never occur in a longitude.
 So, Don... now we're all really curious! Care to tell us just what you meant by separating the numbers with spaces that way? Were you giving us a decimal degrees reading, or degrees/minutes/seconds, or...?
Well, I read the numbers off our GPS and without giving the numbers a thought I tried to use them to find our location on Google Maps. As several have pointed out, neither minutes or seconds can exceed 60. I knew that, I just did not think about what the GPS displayed. Sorry for the confusion.
 Thanks to all who tried to help me sort this out. It was John's second post that made it clear to me.

He wrote:
 
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... Garmin's default notation is degrees, minutes, and fraction of minutes -(hddd mm.mmm")

So there are three different ways to express the same thing: the
traditional - ddd mm ss, Googles - ddd.dddd, and then Garmins ddd.mm.mmm.
 I went to my paper Delorme map and guessed where we had been. [We were on a "goat path" off the road not shown on Delorme] I guessed the latitude as 38:29 which is close to the Garmin displayed 38:29.184.  I guessed the longitude as 111:26:30, which is close to the Garmin displayed 111:26.608. [:30 = .500 ~ .608]
 BTW, the newer Delorme maps show both dd:mm:ss and the Google format of dd:dddd. i.e. 39:15:00 = 39.2500

John also pointed out that Garmin can show the lat & long in ddd:mm:ss. I found that option today.

New Topic: A 'My Location' feature is built into the Google Chrome browser. This uses the signal from your wi-fi/cell connection to give an approximate location on Google Maps. If I could only find the 'My Location' button. Those that are using Chrome, may wish to experiment with the feature. We have been using Chrome for several months and have not had to reboot once. It's almost like having a Mac or using Unix.
 Right now, we are way the heck up a canyon NW of Farron, UT at Indian Creek CG. All of the campsites could handle four LD's. Each site has one or more 16 foot tables, two stands for your BBQ, a 4 foot fire pit, a 10 foot serving table and something else that we can not figure out a use for. The cost? $1.50 a night on the geezer card. There is one other site occupied here. Downside, a five mile dusty road.
39:26.464, 111:14.291.

Don & Dorothy An MB named Koko & a Jeep named Pelli
 Our Travel Blog: http://travelingdorothy.blogspot.com/ Our Mods Blog http://kokoandpelli.blogspot.com/

Don & Dorothy
Sold our LD in June of 2023

Our boring always non-PC travel blog
Traveling Dorothy