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Re: Squeak is back!
Reply #26
Yahoo Message Number: 98635
"How do you check the parking brake fluid?"

See Msg # 96543

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze


Re: Squeak is back!
Reply #28
Yahoo Message Number: 98637
At a Caravan outing Tech Talk I was discussing the dangers of opening an ajar cab door and then slamming it shut while driving along. This procedure works ok in a car, but in a Class C, the air flow will yank the door open.  One wag suggested that this might be a way to eliminate that irritating noise in the passenger seat.

Terry Tanner

Re: Squeak is back!
Reply #29
Yahoo Message Number: 98638
"One wag suggested that this might be a way to eliminate that irritating noise in the passenger seat."

Terry

It might work if not for those darn seatbelt laws.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze

Re: Squeak is back!
Reply #30
Yahoo Message Number: 98639
Larry,

I tried actuating the parking brake while squeak was present.
No change.

As to the driveshaft, yes it seems like this might be a u-joint or something but wouldn't the frequency of the squeak change with speed. Mine doesn't.

Terry
Terry
2003 26.5'RB
Gardnerville, NV

Re: Squeak
Reply #31
Yahoo Message Number: 98641
Joan,

Google

Ford TSB 03-22-2

This applies to F series trucks but the time frame is right for our E series chassis, which use a very similar center bearing for our two piece drive shafts. I'm going to talk to a drive shaft shop on Monday.

Terry
Terry
2003 26.5'RB
Gardnerville, NV

Re: Squeak
Reply #32
Yahoo Message Number: 98643
tlburnes  wrote:

Ford TSB 03-22-2

This applies to F series trucks but the time frame is right for our E series chassis, which use a very similar center bearing for our two piece drive shafts. I'm going to talk to a drive shaft shop on Monday.
--- Thanks; I printed out the TSB, and will add this to my list when I take it in to the shop. The TSB check didn't produce this as it's for the F-series, but it sure sounds like the bearing is the problem on the E-series, too! (Lon Gould's message did indicate that the center bearing, aka "hanger bearing", was the source of the squeak; thanks again, Lon!)

I did have the parking brake reservoir checked after the last spate of messages on that topic; mechanic said it was "full".  Terry, please post your drivetrain shop's diagnosis; thanks!

Joan (Thinking the folks on this board are a great resource!)
2003 TK has a new home

Re: Squeak
Reply #33
Yahoo Message Number: 98645
Joan,
 Will do. I found several posts on Ford truck sites where guys with F-series trucks reported symptoms very much like ours where the culprit, suspected or actual, was the center or carrier or hanger (three terms for the same thing) bearing. The TSB describes this not as from the bearing itself but from its teflon seal slipping. That would perhaps account for the noise not accelerating with speed and being somewhat random, being worse when cold, etc. etc. I'll know soon.

Terry

2003 26.5'RB

Gardnerville, NV 89460
Terry
2003 26.5'RB
Gardnerville, NV

Re: Squeak is back!
Reply #34
Yahoo Message Number: 98646
Terry,

Are you absolutely sure the squeak is from the outside?

Dave N.
2000RB Albququerque

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Well, I was wrong about the levelers. The squeak returned. ...snip

On the other hand, there doesn't seem to be any problem wit the operation of the vehicle. In all other respects it works perfectly. I may have to just wait for it to go away or get worse.
...snip...
Dave

2017 TK

Re: Squeak is back!
Reply #35
Yahoo Message Number: 98648
Ciao has a hubcap squeak that sounds as you describe.
 When I bought Ciao up in Minneapolis, I stopped at the Ford place up there to get it checked out because it was so embarrassing, particularly when starting out in the morning.  Loud!
 I was skeptical, but no lie, the guy sprayed WD-40 between the holes in the hubcap cover to get the rubbing location between the hubcap and the tire, and the squeaking rhythm went away (for some time).

Sometimes it resumes and I just spray it again.

I wonder if our recent cold Texas weather has made the tires a bit out of round and thus rub on the hubcap, which seems to resolve when driving.

Honestly, I've even heard it at higher speeds and when driving in warmer outside temperatures - especially when driving along concrete barriers and places where the sound reverberates off the walls.
Still, it seems WD-40 greatly dampens the sound.
 If you can identify a wheel causing the issue, maybe that will help.
 I might also make sure that the hubcaps are evenly tightened with the 2 bolts and that no one has bent the hubcaps trying to pry them off with a crowbar because they didn't know there were 2 bolts holding it on (yes, one guy recently tried that on Ciao!).  I'm sure you were on top of anything going on with your tires though.

Hope that helps, Tessa in TX (headed to Disney & DC next week!)

Re: Squeak
Reply #36
Yahoo Message Number: 98649
Quote
Will do. I found several posts on Ford truck sites where guys with F->series trucks reported  symptoms very much like ours where the culprit, suspected or actual, was the center or  carrier or hanger >
(three terms for the same thing) bearing.> Gardnerville, NV 89460

Hi Terry and Joan,

I had to replace the carrier bearing on my 2003 rig in 2005 (at around 37,000 miles) during our way to Alaska. We were driving out of Whitehorse, Yukon Territory when our rig acted up. Talk about feeling vulnerable.... Luckily for us, there was a Ford dealer in Whitehorse; the only Ford dealer for many many miles!

While the Ford dealer was too busy to undertake a repair within the next few days, the service manager did go for a ride with us to diagnose the problem. As soon as he heard the squeak/squeal, he knew what it was.

The symptom was that there was no noise until we reached a speed of around 10-15mph; then a squeak that picked up intensity as the speed picked up. Then is almost sounded like a siren. He said it was a fairly common problem in that area. He then took the time to find a repair shop in Whitehorse to do the repair. Not the kind of service I've come to expect, at least not here in Ohio!
 Repair shop showed me the bearing after it was removed. It had hardly any grease in the bearing. There was not a grease fitting that could have been lubed, either.

At that time, the repair cost around $198 Canadian.
 We did not hear the noise before it became pronounced; that may have been because we had driven the Cassier Hwy. which was very rough due to long stretches of construction. It may be that our rig made noise similar to your's but we could not hear hit until it got worse. You may be in the early stages of bearing failure.

There is one other "squeak" issue I had with my rig that was very difficult to find. That one turned out to be brake pads that had "hot" spots on them. I was fortunate to have found a Ford dealer near home that worked with me on that issue before my warranty had expired. As you have probably discovered, noises originating under the rig are hard to pinpoint. The symtoms for that issue was that there was no noise until the rig was driven for around 5 miles. At that point, the pads built up some heat and I would get a squeak that would be more evident at low speeds that would vanish when the brakes were applied. One dealer tried to blame another Ford dealer for improper machining of the rotors. Long story, new rotors(all 4), new rear calipers and new rear pads. Thankfully, I didn't have to pay for that one!

Good luck and keep us posted!

Steve K. (in very snowy and VERY cold Ohio)
Steve K

2003 Mid-bath

Re: Squeak
Reply #37
Yahoo Message Number: 98650
nukamper2000  wrote: As you have probably discovered, noises originating under the rig are hard to pinpoint.
--- You're right! And, it can be especially disconcerting when the mechanic who's in the rig on a test drive says, "I can't hear anything!"  Or, worse, his eyes narrow, his face takes on a puzzled look and he says, "I don't know WHAT the h*** that is!" ;-)

Joan
2003 TK has a new home

 
Re: Squeak
Reply #38
Yahoo Message Number: 98652
Terry, could you ask them if anybody makes a lubricated replacement bearing. You would think so after all the problems. Thanks, john leach, Prescott, Az.

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Joan,

Google

Ford TSB 03-22-2

This applies to F series trucks but the time frame is right for our E series chassis, which use a very similar center bearing for our two piece drive shafts. I'm going to talk to a drive shaft shop on Monday.

Terry