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Re: Fern's '79 LD
Reply #25
Yahoo Message Number: 89785
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Fern,I just have to add my bravos to your decorating and your whole desk area.  What a great job you and your dad did.  It looks so homey.

Judy Wms.
Ditto! And love the coordinating accessories, too.  Very nice job.

Sharon N.

Re: Fern's '79 LD
Reply #26
Yahoo Message Number: 89794
Wow, Fern, it looks  so non-rvish.  Of, course, I want an rv but it seems all rv fabrics of any brand come from the same designer and now yours is unique like our stick homes would be.  How do you find traveling

Re: Locations for work/computer desk/area in different LD models
Reply #27
Yahoo Message Number: 89804
Fern,
 All I can say is "Wow!!"  I'm familiar with your rig from knowing its previous owner - I would never have guessed that picture was of the same rig.  You and your Dad did a fantastic job with the make-over.

Ted H.

'02 FL  NE-12

@ Stephen Foster SP, FL

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Posted by: "Fern" I know this isn't a direct answer to your question, but just for more ideas I thought I'd offer what I did to a 1979 22' TB (like a TK only with beds instead of couches).

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Re: Fern's '79 LD
Reply #28
Yahoo Message Number: 89807
teresadhill wrote:
 "Also, how did you get the cab seat looking so great?  Recover or buy a cover for it?"
 The upholstery is the original and is in good shape on both the driver's and passenger's seats. I didn't do anything to them but clean them.
 "Is it just the stripes or also the vanilla/white color that need help? Ciao Baby's stripes are the problem."
 It's the whole thing, really. There are places on the one side where the paint has actually peeled off, leaving the bare aluminum showing. I wish it were just the stripes. :)

With your talent, Tessa, I'd think you could tape off Ciao Baby's stripes, sand them, and spray paint them. But I'm certainly not the expert.

Fern
Fern Horst
Formerly owned:
1979 TK - "Dorie" (2007-2012)
2003 MB - "Absaroka" (2012-2019)

Re: Fern's Desk (Locations for work/computer desk/)
Reply #29
Yahoo Message Number: 89808
Anne Johnson wrote:
 "Why, Oh why, did LD discontinue this model? I think it would sell like crazy now. It looks good, is super efficient for one, two or more people socially."
 I do really like the seating across the back. It's my favorite place to sit and just "chill," looking out the back and side windows. And someone can sit there as well as behind me, while I'm working at the desk.
 I suppose, though, that the TK model offers more versatility as far as sleeping arrangements.

Fern
Fern Horst
Formerly owned:
1979 TK - "Dorie" (2007-2012)
2003 MB - "Absaroka" (2012-2019)

Re: Fern's '79 LD
Reply #30
Yahoo Message Number: 89809
Nancy Napier wrote:
 "How do you find traveling in a 79?  I have been a wannabee a long while but could buy an older model much more easily the question is could I keep it running?  Thanks for any advice."
 It truly is an individual choice based on you, your abilities or those close to you willing to help you out, what you really want in a rig, and the rig itself. A 1980 may be 20 times more reliable than a 1990, depending on its condition, so it's important to check all of that out.
 With an older rig, you generally have a lot less cost starting out. And you can make an awful lot of upgrades and repairs for the cost of a new rig. Of course, you'll still have an old rig after spending money fixing it up. There's nothing to make a 20 or 30 year old RV a 2 year old RV. :)
 If you don't have a lot of money now, but want to be RVing now rather than waiting for years down the road, you could spend what you have now for an older LD and put money into it as you have it. But you have to know what you're comfortable with personally.

Fern
Fern Horst
Formerly owned:
1979 TK - "Dorie" (2007-2012)
2003 MB - "Absaroka" (2012-2019)

Re: Locations for work/computer desk/area in different LD models
Reply #31
Yahoo Message Number: 89812
Denise and Garth,
 Thanks for the suggestion, it may well be what we end up doing.  I have also considered a very light, small car to go into an enclosed auto hauler with a desk in the front.  I have to check weights of a small car + trailer + desk and see if I can get it light enough to tow with a LD.

See you down the road,

Jerry Howell
Jerry Galang
Meridian, ID 83646

Re: Locations for work/computer desk/area in different LD models
Reply #32
Yahoo Message Number: 89814
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"I have never seen a 30/31 ft TB LD.  I know there is a drawer in a night stand over the pass through storage between the two twin beds.  I was wondering if that was removed and the pass through just carpeted, couldn't the twin beds be converted to couches as in a 26.5 ft MB ?  Or, one remove one and replace it with a double wide wall hugger recliner."
 I know this isn't a direct answer to your question, but just for more ideas I thought I'd offer what I did to a 1979 22' TB (like a TK only with beds instead of couches). It's a floorplan that LD doesn't offer any more. In fact, I've yet to find reference to another like this one.
When I bought it from Susan Fain (on this list), it had the two twin beds in the back with a couch that extended across the back (like a big U shape seating area) with a pedestal table that fit in the middle. It has pass-through storage all across the back, much like the 30' TB models, I would imagine (I've never seen a 30' TB either). There was also open storage under each bed, so I didn't have the water tank or anything else to contend with in modifying it.
We had a Flair with the nearly the same U shaped rear area with a pole supported table in the middle.  We did like the design, can't say much for the old Flair.  Since I am 6' 4.5" tall the best sleeping arrangement seems to be across the width of the LD as in the cab over.
Up there We place pillows over the cabinet at the end to be able to use the full length.

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I work from home (designing websites) and wanted to have a desk in my LD so that I can easily take my work with me. My father is a wonderful handyman sort of person, and he removed the passenger side bed, leaving the seating across the back intact. He then built in a desk, with a table top that pulls out to create an instant table for eating. The desk is not as deep as the bed was that it replaced, giving me enough room in the aisle to use an office chair without banging into the other bed.

I've uploaded a photo if you'd like to see it:

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> The back cushions on the couches lift off, making the width of the beds pretty much a typical twin bed width. I have thought that a platform could be built that would pull out from underneath the cushions on the driver's side to fill the width of the aisle, and I could remake the left-over cushions from the passenger-side bed that I removed, to fill in that space and make a large bed in the back. But so far the overhead cab bed has sufficed.

It's too bad the 30' TB does not have the option of an overcab bed.
Otherwise you could convert the rear bedroom to an office (where you could keep your "clutter" separate from the rest of the coach), keep your living room intact, and use the overcab for sleeping. But, you could still use the couch in the living room for your bed, if you find it big enough for your liking.
 Best wishes on your planning. "Where there's a will there's a way."  :)

Fern
That is a very well done job.  I hope whatever we end up doing comes out as nice as yours.

See you down the road,

Jerry Howell
Jerry Galang
Meridian, ID 83646

Re: Locations for work/computer desk/area in different LD models
Reply #33
Yahoo Message Number: 89815
Sharon N.
 Thanks for the measurements and the sage advice.  We may well end up with a bed across the rear as you suggest.
Jerry Galang
Meridian, ID 83646

Re: Locations for work/computer desk/area in different LD models
Reply #34
Yahoo Message Number: 89816
Ellen,
 I don't have any pictures at this time.  If I can find time to get to the LD and get pictures, I will try to post them.
 We were told we were getting the last of a close out item.  Then a few months later we saw them aga
Jerry Galang
Meridian, ID 83646

Re: Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen
Reply #35
Yahoo Message Number: 89843
FERN ~
 Your '79 LD looks very nice in your pics - Your kitchen area looks so big, usable and decorated very pretty.

I do have a question - What is the white appliance setting on the counter between the blue containers next to the stove?

Virginia central Texas '07 Red 26.5RB ~ '07 Black Matrix Starr and Midnight Roadie http://travelingstarr.blogspot.com/

Re: Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen
Reply #36
Yahoo Message Number: 89929
Virginia and Jim Cunningham wrote:

"I do have a question - What is the white appliance setting on the counter between the blue containers next to the stove?"

It's a Hot Shot made by Sunbeam:

http://tinyurl.com/33jph4>
 It boils up to 16 oz of water in less than two minutes. I drink both coffee and tea, so I can use it for both, since I use a Melitta one-cup drip cone to make my coffee. It's amazing how handy the Hot Shot is in the kitchen any time you need a quick cup or two of boiling water, or even to heat some water to wash a few dishes. I keep a 16 oz. measuring cup with it to dispense the water into, and then pour the water from the measuring cup into my Meltitta coffee filter, tea cup, dishpan, or whatever.

Fern
Fern Horst
Formerly owned:
1979 TK - "Dorie" (2007-2012)
2003 MB - "Absaroka" (2012-2019)


Re: Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen
Reply #38
Yahoo Message Number: 89977
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For those interested in the Sunbeam "Hot Shot" identified by Fern,
an apparently identical unit is available from Target for $14.99.  It is called the Sunbeam Hot Shot model 6131 at Target.....

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Alex Rutchka '05 26.5' MB SE #4
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It's a Hot Shot made by Sunbeam:
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Fern
Fern & Alex -

Thank you so much for all the info about the "Hot Shot" appliance - sure wish I had found that before I got a small electric tea kettle - will put the info in Starr's notebook for future reference.

Virginia central Texas Starr & Midnight Roadie '07 Red 26.5RB & '07 Black Matrix http://travelingstarr.blogspot.com/

Re: Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen
Reply #39
Yahoo Message Number: 89982
"In two minutes, you get 2 cups of 180 degree or so water. When on an electric hook-up, and two cups of water will do the job for you, it beats running the water heater."

Before spending money on an appliance that takes up scarce counter space, it's worth considering that Lazy Daze's standard Dometic microwave oven will bring two cups of water to 180 degrees in three minutes--not quite as fast as the Hot Shot, but fast enough for most purposes. I make tea that way whenever I'm plugged in.
 To paraphrase Alex, when on an electric hookup, and two cups will do the job for you, the microwave oven you already own will do the job nicely. :-) Of course if your rig didn't come with a microwave (I'm not sure Fern's did), that's something else again.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Redundant Appliances (was Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen)
Reply #40
Yahoo Message Number: 89985
Remember the site from last week with the OniMog adventure drivers who travel the world?  One of the things he stressed in preparing the rig for adventure is "redundancy is a good thing."  In otherwords, having various means to survive is good.

So in prepping for our adventures, I was thinking of adding a few things, with the goal of keeping it simple and not buying more than I need:

1.  Hot water heater:  runs currently on propane- I can get an  electric hot water heater device too  
2.  Heat:  runs currently on propane-  
a.  get a heat strip for the electric A/C unit and/or
b.  get an electric heat cube and/or
c.  use electric blankets or mattress warming pads

3.  Stove:  propane in rig - I just bought a $7 electric heat
 coil/hot plate device

So if I run out of propane and cannot refill, I still can take a shower, heat the rig, and cook some food/boil water.
 For electricity, I have 3 sources:  shore power, solar, and generator.

What else should I do, keeping in mind that simplicity is the goal?

Trying to get all my ducks in a row.

Our itinerary has expanded for our trip to include:

Grand Canyon, Yellowstone (Jun) Inuvik & Alaska (Jul-Aug) Pacific NW & California (Sep) Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta (Oct) Mexico & hopefully Baja Central America (to Panama- who wants to join me?) China (RV gets shipped to Europe during this month) (Feb/Mar) Europe (probably starting in Italy & heading north) (Mar-Aug)

Did anyone else see that Motorhome Magazine article about RVing in Rome and a picture of my RV Bible, "Take your RV to Europe"?  Oh yes!

Suggestions but not scare tactics welcome, :) Tessa in TX

Re: Redundant Appliances (was Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen)
Reply #41
Yahoo Message Number: 89995
"Hot water heater: runs currently on propane- I can get an electric hot water heater device too"

Tessa,

I assume the main use of the hot water heater is for showers.  How about a couple of these?: http://tinyurl.com/2covq8

All the appliances you are considering seem to be based on running out of propane.  Is that really much of a concern?  Perhaps someone with more experience can talk about propane availability.

I've personally found it much easier to run out of electricity (limited by battery/solar capacity) rather than propane.  Since the furnace fan is one of the biggest energy hogs, the cat heater has often been suggested here as a way of conserving electricity: http://tinyurl.com/ys9mud

Andrew 1999 23.5' TK, SF Bay Area
Andrew
2008 Rear Bath
(previously 1999 TK)

Re: Redundant Appliances (was Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen)
Reply #42
Yahoo Message Number: 89998
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For electricity, I have 3 sources:  shore power, solar, and generator.


 Just keep in mind that the electrical appliances you listed aren't going to run -- for long -- using solar.  To use those appliances, you'd want to either be hooked up to electricity or run the generator.

Linda Hylton http://map.datastormusers.com/user1.cfm?user=1167 http://earl-linda.blogspot.com/
Linda Hylton

Re: Redundant Appliances
Reply #43
Yahoo Message Number: 90004
"redundancy is a good thing... keeping in mind that simplicity is the goal"
 There's some tension between these two ideals, so it'll be a matter of deciding what you're most likely to need. I'll offer a few suggestions.
 "Hot water heater: runs currently on propane - I can get an electric hot water heater device too"

A Hott Rod takes up no space... but Atwood (who made your water heater) recommend against them, apparently because they can cause severe corrosion. Seems to me you're much more likely to be without electricity than without propane, so this may not be a high priority.

Heat: runs currently on propane -
a.  get a heat strip for the electric A/C unit and/or
b.  get an electric heat cube and/or
c.  use electric blankets or mattress warming pads"

The heat strip has one big advantage: it's on a separate circuit from the rest of the coach (except that it shares the microwave oven's circuit), so you can use it at the same time as heaters plugged into your outlets. On the other hand, it's as noisy as your  air conditioner, which can be annoying. And reports about its effectiveness are mixed: it works very well for some people, but my experience has been that running it for an hour or more yields only a modest increase in temperature. Bottom line: don't expect miracles.

I've found that "cube" heaters are much more effective, perhaps because they emit heat along the floor where it's needed, instead of along the ceiling like the heat strip. And they're MUCH quieter than the heat strip!

I use one amidships and one in back. They run at half power (750 watts) because they share the same 15A circuit, so you can't run them both at full 1,500W power. Because small electric heaters take up little space but save large amounts of propane (and battery power and noise), it makes sense to get at least one of these. I recommend an inexpensive one with a mechanical thermostat rather than the fancy digital type - it'll be more reliable and less quirky. (I have experience with both.)

Actually, one of my electric heaters isn't a cube; it's a 16" high oscillating "tower" heater, sold for about $25 at Wal-Mart under the Lasko brand. The oscillation spreads the heat around better than a stationary heater. I keep it tucked into the corner between the wardrobe and the curbside couch in my midbath... it's out of the way there, but heats the bathroom and kitchen pretty well.

Other things I'd suggest carrying extras of: belts, hoses, flashlights, batteries, oil, coolant, 12V light bulbs.

Andy Baird http://www.andybaird.com/travels/
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"

Re: Fern's '79 LD - Pretty Kitchen
Reply #44
Yahoo Message Number: 90007
I keep a Proctor-Silex one-quart electric hot pot available for water heating duties.  It heats water very quickly, and provides enough for two cups of cocoa in the morning, with the remaining poured into a vacuum bottle for use during the day.  I have a pint capacity vacuum bottle that is used ONLY for water.  This keeps various odors from permeating the water.  I don't care for cold fluids, so I pour a bit of this hot water into orange juice, or whatever, to warm it up a bit.

Mine is a different model, but this is similar:

http://tinyurl.com/2ju7zr>

- or -
http://www.amazon.com/Proctor-Silex-K2070-Automatic-Electric/dp/B00023XCWS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1204418919&sr=8-1>

A stainless steel one-quart percolator, with the guts removed, serves the same purpose if no electrical hook up is available.  If one pre-wipes the dishes, a quart of water heated on the propane stove provides plenty of water for washing and rinsing without turning on the water heater.  If I have a lot of dishes, which is usually, I pour in a small amount of wash water in the largest pan I have used and put some liquid detergent in it to heat.
This provides plenty of power to wash, and then I can use the percolator to gently ration out the hot rinse water.

Even though we are temporarily stuck in a house, I still use the routine in the first paragraph.  Actually I carry it a step further (I have lots of vacuum bottles!) by keeping a quart of heated water in the back bathroom for brushing my teeth during the day.
Letting the water run to get a few ounces of warm water to brush my teeth just doesn't cut it.  That outlet is far away from the water heater, thus the amount of water that would be wasted is just too large for me to bear.

Since we've had to give up coffee altogether (large sniff), I keep hot, hot water in my best vacuum bottle for sipping during the day.  A sorry substitute, but it keeps the heart rate in check!  ;->

Virtual hugs,

Judie Grounded (temporarily) in - Sierra Vista, Arizona
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Re: Redundant Appliances
Reply #45
Yahoo Message Number: 90011
Great ideas here too.  You guys must not be as spacey as me because yes, I am certain that at a most inconvenient time I will completely use up all the propane and haven't a clue where to get a refill.

Also, my reading about taking Ciao Baby to Europe says that propane is the one thing that is difficult to locate.  So I'm thinking about that too.

Andy said: the goal"

There's some tension between these two ideals>>

So true!  You said it!  Trying to be prepared without hauling so much stuff that I can't find anything when needed is a difficult balance.

Thanks for the great suggestions, Tessa in TX '92 MB- Ciao Baby!

Re: Redundant Appliances
Reply #46
Yahoo Message Number: 90023
Not to be a pill about all of this, but last night while contemplating my toes, a question or two crossed my mind:  What impact will the difference in European electric current and their variety of plugs have on Tessa's travels...none, some, or this isn't going to work...I've always had to carry different plugs or buy an appliance and plugs in the country I've been in.
 Another thought...have you practiced driving on the other side of the road, and especially since the steering wheel on the LD will be off-set, if you will?  Those round-abouts were a thrill in a tiny Daewoo made for the Euro market; in an LD they will be better than any Disney ride ever devised!
 Maybe renting an RV/caravan overseas is a more cost and aggravation effective possibility?  I'm thinking about some of those much smaller roads and the width of the LD, as well as, will mechanical repairs be an issue?
 And does your RV insurance company have any "issue" with Ciao Baby taking The Grand Tour?
 I'm hoping you'll say you've already covered these and all the answers are within the "no problem" spectrum.

TinaP

teresadhill hillfamily55@...> wrote:                               Great ideas here too.  You guys must not be as spacey as me because yes, I am certain that at a most inconvenient time I will completely use up all the propane and haven't a clue where to get a refill.

Also, my reading about taking Ciao Baby to Europe says that propane is the one thing that is difficult to locate.  So I'm thinking about that too.

Andy said: the goal"

There's some tension between these two ideals>>
 So true!  You said it!  Trying to be prepared without hauling so much stuff that I can't find anything when needed is a difficult balance.

Thanks for the great suggestions, Tessa in TX '92 MB- Ciao Baby!

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Re: Redundant Appliances
Reply #47
Yahoo Message Number: 90031
I did some research on RVing in Europe a couple years ago as we were planning on it, now we've put it on a back burner until this house is complete. Of course, another thing that cooled the plans was the drop of the dollar vs the euro.  It's a very expensive idea at todays rates.  What looked most logical to me would be to purchase an RV in Europe, use it for up to 90 days and take advantage of their guaranteed resale of the RV.  Or, purchase one and sell it when you are finished on your own.
 I think the width of the newer LDs would be the biggest headache.  If you have an older, narrow body RV then that part would be better.  However, there are not facilities for dumping like we do in the US over in Europe.
You will need a pump and/or some kind of BlueBoy to transfer the waste to the authorized dump which I understand is usually inside the bathroom in the campground.  There are adaptors for the electric but I don't know how expensive it would be to get one sized for the whole coach.  It's done in reverse by Europeans so it's possible.  I would just plan on not plugging the coach in myself.

-- Jonna in Tortuga, 2001 Teal RB 'Tortuga' Find us MAPhttp://map.datastormusers.com/user2.cfm?user=1013> Follow the BLOG herehttp://www.baddog.com/blog/blog.html>

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