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Winters with LD
Yahoo Message Number: 459
OK gang, I have some questions. I live in Seattle, and it doesn't freeze very much in the winter, but can. I want to take weekend trips during the winter, and need to know what some of you that have experience can tell me about the insulation of the 1987 22'.
What will I need to do to prevent freezing pipes and things? I don't want to put antifreeze in the tanks because I'd just have do drain it every time I took a trip, and hopefully, that will be often!! All suggestions welcomed!! TIA, Sarah in Seattle

Winters with LD
Reply #1
Yahoo Message Number: 460
The fresh-water tank and plumbing are in the passenger area - as long as you keep that above freezing most of the time you should be ok. Keep all the lower cupboard doors open a crack too.

The holding tanks and valves are completely exposed if yours doesn't have the cold-weather package. LD recommends rock salt there. I carry it, but we usually don't camp much below freezing, so I haven't used any.

For maintenance heating where you have hookups a portable electric heater is ideal - generally pretty safe to leave it running on low while you are away. Since this requires hookups, we also have an LP catalytic heater. We use it except while sleeping most of the time while we are inside - but not when we leave. If you plan to be away more than a few hours, hookups are best.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit

Winters with LD
Reply #2
Yahoo Message Number: 461
Sarah, Our middlest daughter is also Sarah with and "h". We want to use our LD for winter sking trips so I went up to Mt Bachelor and talked with some of the snowmobilers that were using class c units. We were in the snowzone with about 6 feet of depth and they told me that there was no problem as long as they kept the furn1ce going. They put antifreeze in the holding tanks but not in the fresh water tank. As long as you stay at the level of the Sound, I dont think you will have too much problem. I would drain everything during late Dec and All of Jan. Just carry jugs of water in your refer to keep it from freezing and use that to cook and flush the pot.

I hope that it is realy that simple. but I am going to try it next winter.

Sterling

Winters with LD
Reply #3
Yahoo Message Number: 462
OK, I hate to appear the local idiot, but what would you do with the rock salt in relation to the holding tanks and valves? The only two things I've ever done with rock salt is to sprinkle it on sidewalks in the winter to melt the ice, (until we found out that was environmentally un-friendly) or pack around hand-made-hand-cranked icecream to get it frozen.

Also, have any idea what a cold weather package costs, and do you have to go down to the LD place in Pomona/Montclaire Ca to get one or can other RV repair places do it? You are (obviously) corresponding with a mechanically challenged individual.

I don't have access to an electrical hook-up. Am in an apartment complex. So, if I just drained the tanks and left the valves open while I'm not using it, would that work? I really appreciate your help here. Sarah in (we're having a heat-wave, it's 85 degrees today) Seattle.

Winters with LD
Reply #4
Yahoo Message Number: 463
Sterling wrote (snip) We want to use our LD for winter sking trips so I went up to Mt Bachelor and talked with some of the snowmobilers that were using class c units. We were in the snowzone with about 6 feet of depth and they told me that there was no problem as long as they kept the furn1ce going. They put antifreeze in the holding tanks but not in the fresh water tank. As long as you stay at the level of the Sound, I dont think you will have too much problem. I would drain everything during late Dec and All of Jan. Just carry jugs of water in your refer to keep it from freezing and use that to cook and flush the pot.
Sterling

Sterling - Wow. What nerve. Driving in all that ice and snow to Mt. B in the winter. Makes me break out in hives just to think about it. However, good ideas re: staying at 'Sound' level. Will drain said tanks, carry water and add antifreeze as described. There's just way too many great places to go in the Pacific Northwest to waste a winter (mountains not withstanding) not going there. Thanks for the advice. Sarah ~^_^~ (Was your middlest as mouthy as me?)

Winters with LD
Reply #5
Yahoo Message Number: 464
Sterling wrote (snip) We want to use our LD for winter sking trips so I went up to Mt Bachelor and talked with some of the snowmobilers that were using class c units. We were in the snowzone with about 6 feet of depth and they told me that there was no problem as long as they kept the furn1ce going. They put antifreeze in the holding tanks but not in the fresh water tank. As long as you stay at the level of the Sound, I dont think you will have too much problem. I would drain everything during late Dec and All of Jan. Just carry jugs of water in your refer to keep it from freezing and use that to cook and flush the pot.
Sterling

Sterling - Wow. What nerve. Driving in all that ice and snow to Mt. B in the winter. Makes me break out in hives just to think about it. However, good ideas re: staying at 'Sound' level. Will drain said tanks, carry water and add antifreeze as described. There's just way too many great places to go in the Pacific Northwest to waste a winter (mountains not withstanding) not going there. Thanks for the advice. Sarah ~^_^~ (Was your middlest as mouthy as me?)

Winters with LD
Reply #6
Yahoo Message Number: 465
Sarah, for winterizing - i.e. while NOT using the m'home, I can't help, living in SoCal. Try the newsgroups such as:

rec.outdoors.rv-travel

The rock salt added to the holding tank lowers the freezing point of the contents - it works as an anti-freeze, in other words. If your tanks are bare, it may be your best bet for travel, since it is cheap. I don't think the cold-climate package is available as a retrofit, though in your area you might find some independent shops that will install heating pads and insulation.
Not particularly useful unless you stay in hookup areas. I believe the factory system would duct heat from the furnace by the tanks or relocate them into an insulated and heated compartment.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit

Winters with LD
Reply #7
Yahoo Message Number: 466
Steve wrote (snip) Sarah, for winterizing - i.e. while NOT using the m'home, I can't help, living in SoCal. Try the newsgroups such as: rec.outdoors.rv-travel Steve

Steve - I couldn't access the web address. Also added
www. in front of the whole thing, it still didn't work. Do you see anything wrong in the address, or it could just be 'one of those days' on the web, and it might work later. Who knows. Thanks for the rock salt explaination. ~(:-) Sarah

 
Winters with LD
Reply #8
Yahoo Message Number: 471
Sarah, this is the name of a newsgroup, and you would access it directly with a newsreader - not a web browser. Netscape includes a newsreader, but your ISP might not carry this newsgroup. Rather than tell you how to enable your newsreader - something you might want to arrange when you get a chance - there are alternatives on the web.

I

suggest:

www.remarq.com

This is a web-based newsgroup host and access site. It allows you to subscribe to whatever newsgroups you want (this enables you to read and post), and it is free. In the search box they give you, simply enter:

rec.outdoors.rv-travel

and follow the flow. Another useful one is:

alt.rv

Let me know if you run into problems.

Steve
2004 FL
2013 Honda Fit