Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot February 10, 2005, 09:05:34 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50621Ran across a couple of messages talking about wanting a midbath rather than the rear bath. Can you tell me why? We were consideriing buying a Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot rear bath but wonder why a couple of you wanted to change yours. Also, does anyone tow a Toyota Avalon?
Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #1 – February 11, 2005, 12:04:01 am Yahoo Message Number: 50625We previously traveled in a 5th wheel that had the living room in the back with big windows on the sides and back. It has been our experience, whether you are in a public or private RV park, that the best views are out the back.When I wanted to get a motor home because, if it was necessary, I would never be able to hitch up the 5th wheel (too short and not too strong), I wanted the living room with big windows in the back for the views, a kind of privacy, and to have something to look at while indoors other than each other or a book. I searched literally dozens of RV web sites for that single feature. Except for the LD mid-bath or twin/king and one model of Trek (very poorly made), I did not find any! Not even one of the many models of Winnebagos has windows in the back, except the small Rialta. I was surprised!The day my husband found this Yahoo site, I discovered that our Escapee friends, Earl and Linda Hylton, had ordered a LD. I knew then for certain it was a correct choice, because they never get anything without thinking and researching it as much as possible! They have a beautiful new 23 1/2 Twin/King with the same feature of windows in the back and we have a used 26 1/2 mid-bath that we are rehabbing and decorating.Judy
Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #2 – February 11, 2005, 12:31:25 am Yahoo Message Number: 50626LD states the weight limit for a towed vehicle behind a Lazy Daze coach is 4000 pounds. That means fully loaded, gassed up, etc. You also must include in that 4000 pounds the weight of the tow hitch and tow bars that are attached to the towed vehicle and/or the LD's 2- inch receiver hitch.A Toyota Avalon is probably considerably over that limit.
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #3 – February 11, 2005, 01:20:15 am Yahoo Message Number: 50629At 03:05 AM 2/11/2005 +0000, you wrote:QuoteAlso, does anyone tow a Toyota Avalon? We don't now, but the unit we just bought (a 26-1/2' rear kitchen) was used to tow an Avalon. It still has the hitch apparatus attached. The previous owners apparently did tow the car regularly without problems. As for the weight limits, there were only two people and they traveled light, so perhaps that's why it worked for them.Sonsie
Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #4 – February 11, 2005, 08:00:38 am Yahoo Message Number: 50632I agree with Judy: It's all about the view from the rear lounge/sofas. I would love to have the huge bathroom, but not if it means giving up that wonderful seating area. Here's the page from Andy's website that convinced me I wanted the TK or MB floorplan. (No, not Andy mugging with his hoses -- scroll down!) http://www.andybaird.com/travels/first/first02.htmI recently trekked all over an RV show looking for a rear-lounge setup and asking salesmen about it, even though I knew I wanted a Lazy Daze. Not only was such an arrangement hardly available, several salesmen even mocked the concept. The prevailing style seems to completely ignore the view potential, using the back wall for storage. What a waste! Joanne 1994 teal 23.5TK
Re: Toyota Avalon as toad Reply #5 – February 11, 2005, 09:28:09 am Yahoo Message Number: 50634Quote Also, does anyone tow a Toyota Avalon? Hi BeaverCleaver, I just checked the 2004 issue of Motorhome magazine's Dingy Towing Guide and the Avalon was NOT listed as being towable 4 wheels down. All of the Toyota cars listed as being towable were cars that had manual transmissions availabe and the indication was these cars were only towable with manual transmissions and not towable with automatics. I haven't seen the 2005 Dingy guide yet, so don't know if there was a change regarding this. And I believe the 2004 guide was commenting on 2004 model year vehicles; if you have another year model in mind you might want to check with Toyota. Steve K.
Re: It's all about the view Reply #6 – February 11, 2005, 09:40:59 am Yahoo Message Number: 50636"Here's the page from Andy's website that convinced me I wanted the TK or MB floorplan." And that was before I removed the corner curtains and the valances. Now the view is MUCH bigger! :-) I agree wholeheartedly with every thing that's been said here. Fro me, being able to back into a campsite and enjoy the spectacular 180° view from the Lazy Daze's huge windows is one of life's greatest pleasures.Andy Baird
Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #7 – February 11, 2005, 09:45:47 am Yahoo Message Number: 50638"Ran across a couple of messages talking about wanting a midbath rather than the rear bath. Can you tell me why?" If you go to this group's Files section and open the "Frequently Asked Questions" folder, you'll find a FAQ document called "What size and floorplan is best for me?" It's a compilation of many different people's opinions about the various LD sizes and floorplans...I think you're find it to be just what you're looking for. :-)Andy Baird
Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #8 – February 11, 2005, 04:43:22 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50661Quote SNIP A Toyota Avalon is probably considerably over that limit. USA Today has an article on the Avalon in today's edition (page 12D) stating the weight is between 3,490 and 3,600 pounds, depending on model.Dick Slater26.5 RK gonna-be PO 8295 Red Rover
Re: Toyota Avalon as toad Reply #9 – February 11, 2005, 05:26:26 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50663Quotethe Avalon was NOT listed as being towable 4 wheels down We have a Toyota Camry with an automatic transmission and got a Remco transmission lube pump installed and can tow it all four wheels down. We've put about 20,000 "towed" miles on it and have not had any problems. If you really want to tow the Avalon, you could call the Remco folks and find out if it's possible to do the same.Chris W.
Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #10 – February 11, 2005, 05:50:01 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50664QuoteIt's all about the view from the rear lounge/sofas. AMEN! We too were sold on the Lazy Daze after looking at Andy's photo of the panoramic view out Gertie's back windows. In fact, when we decided to go full-time and needed to get a larger RV, we were so spoiled by all the windows our mid-bath LD that we couldn't bring ourselves to get any other brand of RV because none of them had such great windows. We compromised a lot just so we could keep all those glorious views and went with a 30'TB and we just love it. It has the best of both worlds -- large windows in the living area and large windows in the back bedroom.I also wonder why more motorhome manufacturers don't consider the view from the back as, more often than not at least in state/national parks, that is where the best (and most private) view can be found. I guess maybe they think everyone stays in private RV parks where your rear view is often just of the RV behind you. Go figure.Chris W.
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #11 – February 11, 2005, 07:26:47 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50668Regarding - It's all about the view from the rear ...........That is why I picked the rear bath - it is usually such a wonderful view from the "throne".Jed
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #12 – February 11, 2005, 07:53:53 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50669QuoteRegarding - It's all about the view from the rear ...........That is why I picked the rear bath - it is usually such a wonderful view from the "throne".Jed And why we picked the RK, it's so nice to watch the world from the kitchen table but also from the couches as the windows there are HUGE too!!I think it has more to do with LD using big windows than anything and then finding your favorite floorplan.LD's rule, SOB's have portholes!!DaveRuby the red 04 RK
Re: Lack of Rear Lounge RVs Reply #13 – February 12, 2005, 10:55:48 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50712QuoteI also wonder why more motorhome manufacturers don't consider the view from the back as, more often than not at least in state/national parks, that is where the best (and most private) view can be found. I guess maybe they think everyone stays in private RV parks where your rear view is often just of the RV behind you. Go figure.Quote Chris W. Chris, I wonder if one of the reasons there are so few rear lounge RVs is because manufacturers are afraid customers won't like the possible bumpier ride "in the back of the bus". The ride is usually more comfortable between the axles. That considered, the MB still is the best selling LD floor plan (I believe).BTW, we just spent 3 nights in Kartchner Caverns State Park S of Benson, AZ. It's a wonderful campground with electric and water (dump is available), large sites, beautiful scenery and great campground hosts ($22 per night). It's relatively new and was constructed right. Don't miss Kartchner Caverns. Truly spectacular.Chris Horst 2002 30' IBDenver (now in rainy Phoenix)
Re: Lack of Rear Lounge RVs Reply #14 – February 13, 2005, 08:37:56 am Yahoo Message Number: 50719Quote > Chris, I wonder if one of the reasons there are so few rear lounge RVs is because manufacturers are afraid customers won't like the possible bumpier ride "in the back of the bus". That could be one of reasons - especially in Class Cs that are designed with families in mind. I'm guessing that designing a rear lounge floor plan is also just more difficult to make it space efficient, especially in a Class A motorhome where the cockpit just naturally wants to become part of the living area. The Safari Trek has a couple of floorplans that have rear living areas and we really liked the lounge area in them -- especially the one with the kitchen slide, but we just couldn't appreciate their "drop down from the ceiling bed." We finally gave up on a rear lounge and just looked for a motorhome with lots of windows, but as someone else so eloquently said -- all the other guys have portholes, not windows! We almost got a Rexhall because they came the closest to the LD in terms of great, big, view windows, but we got cold feet at the last moment and decided we'd rather compromise on the weight and go for the sure thing in terms of the quality of the LD.QuoteBTW, we just spent 3 nights in Kartchner Caverns State Park S of Benson, AZ. It's a wonderful campground with electric and water (dump is available), large sites, beautiful scenery We stayed in Kartchner for 2 nights in Dec. '03 and also enjoyed the campground. We backed into a beautiful view site and from our rear lounge (we had our MB at the time) we had the most gorgeous, panoramic view out to the mountains behind us. It was clear and frosty cold, but each morning, the mountains glowed red with the rising sun -- oh so pretty and we enjoyed the lovely view while sipping hot coffee in our king sized bed. Aah, life is good.Chris W.
Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #15 – February 11, 2005, 07:06:45 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50667Yeah! I couldnt agree more. Back in 1999, just befor ordering our LD, we had allmost given up finding a MH we liked. This was because those with a rear lounge and big rear window were few and far between. We knew they existed because we had seen one somewhere, though I had not yet heard of LD. I finally heard of LD, went to their web site, saw they offered ones with the big rear window. From there things moved fast and soon I flew down to the factory and ordered one. I still did not know a lot of the other good things about LD. I saw right away what a great MH it was, but the three biggest selling factors were 1) Factory sales-no RV salesman to deal with 2) Fixed price 3) the big rear view. Some of the times we enjoy the big rear view the most, is when we are travelling across the country and come to a scenic viewpoint pullout. Then we can enjoy lunch, or a snack and coffee while we take in the view. Many times we can just back in to a spot and put the whole panarama in our rear window. TJChris wrote:"I also wonder why more motorhome manufacturers don't consider the view from the back as, more often than not at least in state/national parks, that is where the best (and most private) view can be found. I guess maybe they think everyone stays in private RV parks where your rear view is often just of the RV behind you. Go figure."Chris W.
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Lazy Daze 26 1/2 foot Reply #16 – February 12, 2005, 08:01:50 am Yahoo Message Number: 50685We've been full-timing in our MB for over a year now and we've yet to use our dinette for dining. We have the optional table for the rear and eat there. Great views! We're currently in San Felipe, BC, Mexico and the rear of our MB sticks out over the RV park ( www.kiki.com.mx ) retaining wall. The only thing under the rear of our MB is beach sand (rear wheels are in the park on concrete). We can look up and down beach while we eat. When the tide is in the Sea of Cortez is 50 ft from us. When it's out it's 1/4 mile from us.... Can you say panoramic views?best, paul
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