Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements January 31, 2005, 10:26:36 am Yahoo Message Number: 50172Hi Gang Just got back from trip to ABQ and Quartzsite and experienced these problems with the Ramblin Roze. 1---The dog house is so close to the pilot and copilot seat you can hardly get up to go back into the cabin 2---The potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones? 3---Sleeping arrangements can probubly be resolved but looking for advice from others who have opposing couches. Saw sleep sacks in Q and looks like a good idea, what do you think? Otherwise the trip was great, got 9mpg towing the horney toad, boondocked a lot and never filled up the tanks, surprised me. Let me know what you think. Keep the greasyside down and the shiny side up and we'll see you down the road. Robert
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #1 – January 31, 2005, 03:59:02 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50186Quote Hi Gang Just got back from trip to ABQ and Quartzsite and experienced these problems with the Ramblin Roze. 1---The dog house is so close to the pilot and copilot seat you can hardly get up to go back into the cabin Robert, I don't remember what year your rig is, but around the 2002 year or so, LD removed a good protion of the obstruction. Of course, along with that change, any storage also was lost. If you look at a newer rig, you may be able to figure out a way to make life easier.Quote2---The potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones? HEH, HEH, HEH! Ain't the height of that thing something else?! After having my legs go numb on that sucker, I built a new platform floor for the bathroom of our Mid-bath. I raised the floor up about 2.5 inches and now its easier stepping in and out of the shower and we don't lose the feeling in our legs while "seated". This little platform has flooring similar to our kitchen flooring and tilts up easily for access to the under sink cabinet. I am really surprised more folks don't complain about this issue. And we aren't short people! I don't know what the vertically challenged folks do!Quote3---Sleeping arrangements can probubly be resolved but looking for advice from others who have opposing couches. We use them as twin beds. My wife cut down a large elastomeric foam pad into two pads, sewed some covers on them, and we just leave the driverside sofa ready for bed and place the passenger side pad and it's bedding on the driver side bed during the day. Since she is an excellent seamstress, she made custom fitted sheets, blankets, and quilts for each side. It works well for us. If left to my own devices, I would just have bought a couple of sleeping bags. But the foam pads really make it comfortable. It doesn't sound like you're ready to sell it already, so you must be having fun. Too bad about its name though. ;-)Steve K.
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #2 – January 31, 2005, 05:13:16 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50194.Quote 2---The potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones?I am really surprised more folks don't complain about this issue. And we aren't short people! I don't know what the vertically challenged folks do!This verically challenged person puts her feet on the little slanty part on each side of the commode-very comfy! Now if the back were only more stable, I'd have a great reading chair. Mary
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Steve K.Dog House, Potty height Reply #3 – January 31, 2005, 05:34:58 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50198Thanks Steve I especially like the fold up platform
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sle Reply #4 – January 31, 2005, 05:44:50 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50199Well Mary on the dismount do you raise your arms high
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #5 – January 31, 2005, 06:24:30 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50201Quote "This verically challenged person puts her feet on the little slanty part on each side of the commode-very comfy!"MaryThis non-vertically challenged person is guilty of the same behavior, sort of like Rodan's sculpture.But the comment prompted me to take my tape measure out to the Lazy Bones where I discovered that the "little slanty part" is quite large, 7" X 21" (allowing clearance for the cupboard door). It came to mind that some mechanical wizard (Bumper, are you listening) could probably fashion a hinged footstep of sorts that would fold up out of the way when not needed.Steve S. Lazy Bones
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #6 – January 31, 2005, 07:32:57 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50205wrote:2---The potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones?Robert, I don't recall if you mentioned the year of your coach, but since I thought that "2 feet" sounded extreme, I went out and measured; the toilet height on my 2003 is 17" from the floor to the top of the seat. If you aren't the first owner of the coach, is it possible that a toilet riser was installed and they didn't tell you? Or, if the coach *is* new, and the toilet is that high, maybe LD should include a set of "throne steps" as standard equipment!Joan
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re:Joan- Dog House, Potty heighth an Reply #7 – January 31, 2005, 07:54:56 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50207Hi Joan Ours is a 2001 RK 26.5ft. and this was LD installed seems like there are a lot of them out there. An engineering snafoo if you ask me. Several ideas on how to fix it have been offered and I thank everyone. Robert.Robert & Roberta, Rozie and the Horney Toad, SKP#702 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #8 – January 31, 2005, 08:03:03 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50208QuoteBones where I discovered that the "little slanty part" is quite large, 7" X 21" (allowing clearance for the cupboard door). It came to mind that some mechanical wizard (Bumper, are you listening) could probably fashion a hinged footstep of sorts that would fold up out of the way when not needed.Steve S. Lazy Bones Always wearing my old disco platform shoes works. Also, if one waits 'till the very last minute, time spent doing the deed is minimal and your legs won't go to sleep.Oh, okay, I'll have a look at it when I get a chance . . . (g).bumper
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re:Bumper-Dog House, Potty heighth a Reply #9 – January 31, 2005, 08:27:32 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50209Bumper see if you can solve this problem. The ladys don't like to have to dismount like Mary Lou Rettin..Robert & Roberta, Rozie and the Horney Toad, SKP#702 Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #10 – February 01, 2005, 09:19:19 am Yahoo Message Number: 50223Quote wrote: 2---The potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones?QuoteRobert, I don't recall if you mentioned the year of your coach, but since I thought that "2 feet" sounded extreme, I went out and measured; the toilet height on my 2003 is 17" from the floor to the top of the seat. If you aren't the first owner of the coach, is it possible that a toilet riser was installed and they didn't tell you? Or, if the coach *is* new, and the toilet is that high, maybe LD should include a set of "throne steps" as standard equipment!Joan Hi Joan. I don't think Robert's "Throne" height was modified. I believe that his Rear Kitchen has the same bathroom layout that the Mid-bath utilizes. In this bathroom layout, the "throne" is positioned higher because of the location of the toilet, the axle, and the black holding tank. The location is one of the reasons that you need to use a flexible rinse wand with these layouts. I couldn't believe how high our "throne" was either. When I measured the height it was either 21" or 23" above the floor! I think for a toilet to be ADA compliant, it needs only be 16-17" high. Once again, LD exceeds federal standards!;-)Steve K.
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #11 – February 01, 2005, 09:36:32 am Yahoo Message Number: 50224nukamper2000 wrote: "I believe that his Rear Kitchen has the same bathroom layout that the Mid-bath utilizes. In this bathroom layout, the "throne" is positioned higher because of the location of the toilet, the axle, and the black holding tank. The location is one of the reasons that you need to use a flexible rinse wand with these layouts."Hmmm...I knew that LD floor plans had different black tank configurations, i.e., one/two "piping bends" into the tank, but I hadn't realized that this affected the toilet height. Another good reason to sit on *everything* when one visits the factory!Joan
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #12 – February 01, 2005, 01:20:58 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50233QuoteThe potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones? In our 2004 30'TB, the seat is also 23" off the floor. You could add an overlayment of flooring, but only about 1.5" before it would interfere with opening the cabinet door. That's probably not enough to really make a difference. We used to use a small, plastic step stool for "extended visits", but now we just live with it.An option, should you consider an overlayment, we used some foam cushion pads (they are sold as play mats for kid's playrooms) to build up the area under the driver's and passenger's seats and have thought about doing the same thing in the bathroom (it would also add some insulation for cold mornings.) The foam is lightweight and is easily cut with a box cutter and yet rigid enough to not compress.QuoteSleeping arrangements can probubly be resolved but looking for advice from others who have opposing couches. When we had our MB, we used a thin, king-sized eggcrate foam mattress topper. The first night, we got the bed ready using sheets and a blanket and then in the morning, we just rolled the foam pad up, sheets, blanket and all, and secured it with a bungee cord and stowed it in the overhead cab. Then, the next night, we just had to roll out the bedroll and it was ready to go. You still have to go through the sheets/blanket routine when changing linens, but the rest of the time it's pretty painless. All that assumes that you have room in the overhead cab to stow the bedroll.Chris W. (full-timing in a 30'TB)
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #13 – February 01, 2005, 09:20:30 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50241Hi all, I looked at the potty heighth situation today. BTW, we've put one of those rubber backed "contour bathroom rugs" up the face, slope and around the potty base. It appears to be staying in position and provides a bit more, ah, er, traction.If I were gonna put in a folding or retracting step, there are a couple of approaches that I can think of.1) Using two strong shelf slides, mounted to the flat on each side of the potty base. A foot rest attached to these slides would be convenient to pull out and push back in when done. Depending on how sturdy the installation, one could put a substantial amount of weight on it without a problem. Using it as a foot rest only (not stepping on it to climb onto the potty) it would not have to bare so much weight.2) Another approach would be to use a flip up hinged step. This step would also have a hinged "leg" so that as the step is flipped down, the leg would also fold down into position for support.Both these approaches would require drilling into the pedestal base of the potty. I haven't looked there to see what's within or under, so don't know if the above is doable . . . but I suspect it is.bumper
Re: Dog House, Potty heighth and sleeping arrangements Reply #14 – February 01, 2005, 10:16:49 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50242Quote from: blackardrobert"2---The potty seat is 2-feet off the floor, comeon Lazy Daze did you install this for Too Tall Jones?QuoteI am really surprised more folks don't complain about this issue.I'm another member of the vertically challenged "jockey club". I really feel as though I should have a number on my back, a whip in my hand, and goggles on when I "mount up". A horse race only lasts a couple of minutes, but my "ride" often takes longer. Any help would be appreciated!We did use a folding redwood shower mat, from CW, in front of the toilet when we first bought our LD. It was about the right size, but we didn't have a way to secure it while on the road. It often fell over, and accidentally got stepped on by someone larger than a jockey, who broke it.Sharon N.
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: Steve K.Dog House, Potty height and Reply #15 – February 06, 2005, 03:26:37 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50453Robert,We've got a 2001 RB so don't have the high toilet problem,
Dog House, Potty heighth and sleepin Reply #16 – January 31, 2005, 01:21:52 pm Yahoo Message Number: 50180QuoteSaw sleep sacks in Q and looks like a good idea, what do you think? We use Travasaks and they work great. They have a summer side and a winter side. I thuink Camping World has them.John K[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]