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water filler question for Larry
Yahoo Message Number: 19404
I don't have an LD,  YET, but I've been intrigued by the fresh water filling discussion.   Does the LD fresh water hose connection not allow filling the tank under city water pressure?  On my '91 Coachmen there is a valve that can be turned to the "fill" position for filling the tank from the hose connection.

Thanks,

Richard

"Chris Horst " wrote:
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: water filler question for Larry
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Yahoo Message Number: 19407
WATER FILL No, there is a separate fill for the water holding tank.  I suggested LD make the change so you could fill the tank at the time you are hooked to city water and Steve said somethieg to the effect that that only works with basement model MH.  Go figure.

Chuck Herbert
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: water filler question for Larry or?
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Yahoo Message Number: 19413
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WATER FILL No, there is a separate fill for the water holding tank.  I
suggested LD make the change so you could fill the tank at the time you are hooked to city water and Steve said somethieg to the effect that that only works with basement model MH.  Go figure.

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Chuck Herbert
We do not have our 26 MB yet but it seemed to me that a tee and a valve with a hose fitting could be cut in above the drain valve on the fresh water drain line. This would allow a hose to be connected and then fill the fresh water tank through the drain line. Another option would be to install a hose fitting at the end of the drain line and fill with city water pressure at that connection.  This would make filling the fresh water much easier and would eliminate the problems of filling with the provided opening. This would not be as convenient as filling from the city connection but close.

Norm
Re: [Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: water filler question for Larry
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Yahoo Message Number: 19435
Not true that it only works on a basement model.  Mine is a small 21' Coachmen class c.  There is a set of two valves in the line between the hose hookup and the water tank.  Depending on the position of the valves the water is directed to the tank or to the fixtures in the system.  They take up almost no room under the bed near the water tank and are accessible through a small door (similar in size to power hookup) from the outside.    I don't like the idea that you can't fill under city water hookup.

How much trouble is it with the LD?

Thanks, Richard

Charles Herbert wrote:
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: water filler question for Larry or?
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Yahoo Message Number: 19456
Now there is an interesting idea.  Now, I've already added a hose line connection on my drain.  I did this to conserve water at the end of trip.  I can water my lawn while I empty my tank.
 Any comments on filling the tank from the drain?  The only negative I can think of is that the dra
[Life With A Lazy Daze RV] Re: water filler question for Larry or?
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Yahoo Message Number: 19458
A few things come to mind.  Be sure you have a pressure regulator in line, take off the fill cap (to allow the air to escape), and monitor the filling very closely  or you could have very nasty, wet results.  Personally I don't think the risk is worth it.
Steve T

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Any comments on filling the tank from the drain?  The only
negative I
Re: water filler question for Larry or?
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Yahoo Message Number: 19465
Richard, I agree it isn't impossible to have a valve system on a RV for filling the fresh water tank from the same city water hook-up while you are hooked to city water in a non-basement model. My parents first 2 TTs filled the water tank via the city water hook-up and these where in the mid to late '60s when basements weren't even made on RVs. However about 90% or more of RV mfgs DO NOT do it that way especially today. Most use separate fillers and many don't even have it covered with an access door let alone a locking access door like LD uses.

Filling the fresh water tank this way is not a major problem and is still rather easy to do. Even when filling from the city water hook- up you need to monitor the filling or it will overflow. It isn't that it's hard to fill when you have a separate filler but some of the devices on the market to assist in doing the job are not very well made. The $3-4 plastic filling device is not worth the money IMO and that of some others.  The filler Larry made would not have the problems that these cheap plastic ones often do like popping out of the filler, crimping, or the vinyl tube popping off the plastic valve piece of it. I've tried my plastic one with a right angle hose adapter like someone else mentioned and it pulled the plastic tube out of the plastic valve end and water went all over until I came back out with another load of things to pack into the LD and shut it off.
 There are pros and cons to all RVs but with LD the pros far out weigh the cons. Little things like the water filler being separate from the city water hook-up is a very acceptable con and as I said it's how most RVs handle it today. The construction quality compared Coachmen and most other brands is enough in itself to outweigh any of the minor cons like that.

Mike
Re: water filler question for Larry or?
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Yahoo Message Number: 19477
Mike,

I had the same problem, but put a small worm-drive hose clamp (from Wal Mart) on the hose, and it's worked fine for me ever since.

Barry 26.5' RB Texas
 
Re: water filler question for Larry or?
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Yahoo Message Number: 19483
Barry, I could have used a hose clamp as you did and do have an assortment of them in my garage. I also have all the parts to make the type Larry did except the hose adapter end. I'd rather use something like that that won't pullout of the filler hole and will basically last forever. Since moving to Fl I'm no longer a fan of many plastic parts especially those not UV protected. With the strong sun here unprotected plastic tends to get brittle and break in a very short time even when not left out in the sun except during use.

As I had posted earlier I have been using an easy fix to the filler coming out of the fill hole and coming apart by using a bent hanger and hanging it from the lip of the kitchen window frame. That works to keep all weight off the filler and it doesn't come apart anymore without a clamp or fall out of the fill hole but I know that filler will break at some future point. I could try using a standard "old fashioned" brass twist nozzle like someone else mentioned they use. I have a few of those and they're the only kind I ever buy anymore because they too last forever as long as you replace the washer and rubber O-ring occasionally. I like Larry's idea better than a twist nozzle though because it would allow the water to flow more freely like the plastic fillers with less pressure than with a nozzle.

Mike