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Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Very interesting! Thanks, Eric.
Andy Baird
2021 Ford Ranger towing 2019 Airstream 19CB
Previously: 1985 LD Twin/King "Gertie"; 2003 LD Midbath "Skylark"
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Thanks Eric.  This will go away with the upcoming all Electric RV.

Ron S
Ron and Linda
Ada Michigan
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Sarz272000  - 
Thanks Eric.  This will go away with the upcoming all Electric RV.

Then they will steal the battery. It has recycling value too.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Larry W  - 
Then they will steal the battery. It has recycling value too.
Can’t see that happening, cats are incredibly easy to cut and run, and lightweight.

EV battery packs are very heavy, 1000-2000 pounds, a RV EV pack would be considerably heavier.   Add in how dangerous that many amps are, cannot see them being a theft target.

It’s like comparing stealing $1000 in hundred dollar bills vs pennies.

Dave

2017 TK
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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What might happen is they steal the vehicle, remove the battery, then dump the car somewhere. How they will turn the battery into money, I don't know, as the 1000-2000 lb battery will be much easier to identify and trace. It would be a felony theft, unlike the converter theft, so riskier that way, too.
2005 Jayco 24SS
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Dave Katleman  - 
Can’t see that happening, cats are incredibly easy to cut and run, and lightweight.

Predicting the crimes of the future is difficult.
Anyway, it will be a long time before everyone is driving an EV, much less owning an electric RV. The catalytic thief problem is going to be around for a while.
The best we can do is to make the cat so difficult to remove that the culprit moves on to an easier, less protected target.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Larry W  - 
Then they will steal the battery. It has recycling value too.

Larry

I haven't heard of Tesla batteries ever being stolen (owner here). The act of trying to take an EV battery would be an insanely massive undertaking. They are sealed and have more mounting points and disconnections that wouldn't make it worthwhile. Plus the fact that you could kill yourself if the high voltage gets ya.

The real problem is the masses will not be able to afford an RV EV. The second problem is who is going to fix it when it goes down?? Unless it's a Tesla, you're out of luck.
Joe B.
2008 26ft  grey/white Rear Bath
Family of 5 hitting the open road as much as we can.
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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I know I shared this before, but CatStrap sent me a strap to try out for my Lazy Daze. I consider install a two person operation unless you have a lift but in theory it is not complicated and is an excellent deterrent. Keep in mind it literally stinks for the first few drives as the strap melts onto your piping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRpPGoOZ_Hw
Joe B.
2008 26ft  grey/white Rear Bath
Family of 5 hitting the open road as much as we can.
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: brewersarcade  - 
The real problem is the masses will not be able to afford an RV EV. The second problem is who is going to fix it when it goes down?? Unless it's a Tesla, you're out of luck.

So, only a Tesla can be maintained?  Does Musk have a secret training facility on Mars?
No fear, Toyota and other manufacturers of Hybrids and pure EVs seem to be able to keep their vehicles running.

25 years ago, at LAX, the new Toyota Prius was part of the alternative-powered vehicle fleet, along with propane, natural gas, pure EV, and hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles. We serviced all of them in-house after sending the mechanics to Factory schools. Education is the name of the game.
Times change and so will the training of future mechanics, it's an exciting time. If anything EVs will be easier to maintain than conventional ICE vehicles.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Larry W  - 
So, only a Tesla can be maintained?  Does Musk have a secret training facility on Mars?
No fear, Toyota and other manufacturers of Hybrids and pure EVs seem to be able to keep their vehicles running.

25 years ago, at LAX, the new Toyota Prius was part of the alternative-powered vehicle fleet, along with propane, natural gas, pure EV, and hydrogen fuel cell powered vehicles. We serviced all of them in-house after sending the mechanics to Factory schools. Education is the name of the game.
Times change and so will the training of future mechanics, it's an exciting time. If anything EVs will be easier to maintain than conventional ICE vehicles.

Larry

Ask my friend who has a Ford Lightning that’s been in the shop for months. Multiple delays for a battery replacement due to

1. Most Ford dealerships only have 1-2 battery lifts
2. The entire fleet isn’t EV certified and trained (unlike Tesla)
3. Parts like batteries are outsourced (unlike Tesla who makes their own batteries, own metals for chassis, own seats etc etc). Really a non issue for parts with a Tesla

These issues apply to all manufacturers who make an EV or Hybrid. That’s why only Tesla is gaining EV market share and Ford, Chevy, Hyundai continue to limp along in the EV market space.

There’s a reason they are valued more than Ford,GM, Toyota and others combined. They are about 10 years ahead tech wise. Sandy Munro has a great YouTube channel and he was a Ford employee for a few decades. He admits Tesla is pretty much unstoppable and legacy auto needs to get their act together.
Joe B.
2008 26ft  grey/white Rear Bath
Family of 5 hitting the open road as much as we can.
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: brewersarcade  - 
Ask my friend who has a Ford Lightning that’s been in the shop for months. Multiple delays for a battery replacement due to

1. Most Ford dealerships only have 1-2 battery lifts
2. The entire fleet isn’t EV certified and trained (unlike Tesla)
3. Parts like batteries are outsourced (unlike Tesla who makes their own batteries, own metals for chassis, own seats etc etc). Really a non issue for parts with a Tesla

These issues apply to all manufacturers who make an EV or Hybrid. That’s why only Tesla is gaining EV market share and Ford, Chevy, Hyundai continue to limp along in the EV market space.

There’s a reason they are valued more than Ford,GM, Toyota and others combined. They are about 10 years ahead tech wise. Sandy Munro has a great YouTube channel and he was a Ford employee for a few decades. He admits Tesla is pretty much unstoppable and legacy auto needs to get their act together.
I know someone with a Tesla and he says never again.  For service he needs to go to the next state. He has had issues with his EV to a point he is done with Tesla.  So all is not roses.  But they do seem to have it together, for now.  American manufactures have legacy systems and gas cars that hamper them moving forward.  They are also unionized so they have to work with the employees.  Tesla has none of that.  Tesla’s founder seems to be getting power hungry and may slip his tongue one too many times.  I have confidence that GM can be competitive.  But they have to address the issues above to be that way.  Bottom line is new frontiers in technology have distinct advantage in short term.  Long term success requires being able to sustain and expand product the customer wants.  Next 5 years will be interesting.

Ron S
Ron and Linda
Ada Michigan
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Sarz272000  - 
I know someone with a Tesla and he says never again.  For service he needs to go to the next state. He has had issues with his EV to a point he is done with Tesla.  So all is not roses.  But they do seem to have it together, for now.  American manufactures have legacy systems and gas cars that hamper them moving forward.
My siblings own three Teslas, so I’ve had plenty of time driving one, and several roadtrips. Also have friends who own them.  Great, great car.

Tesla’s service is first rate, but I agree, do not buy one if there isn’t a Tesla service center in your town.

It’s easier for Tesla to learn how to make better cars than legacy carmakers to convert existing cars, but the legacy are playing catching up.
Dave

2017 TK
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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I liked the story of the fella that bought a Tesla from the original owner who had paid for the extra range option. Then Tesla switched off the additional range and sent him an air message requiring him to pay $2,300 to have it reactivated.
2005 T/K
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Olde English  - 
I liked the story of the fella that bought a Tesla from the original owner who had paid for the extra range option. Then Tesla switched off the additional range and sent him an air message requiring him to pay $2,300 to have it reactivated.

Was it this story, Tesla remotely disabled 80 miles of range?

If so it ended well.

Dave

2017 TK
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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This thread is drifting far away from LD and RV topics and getting political.
Opinions on Musk and Tesla are best to be expressed elsewhere.
It's time to move on.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
 
Re: So Thieves Nabbed Your Catalytic Converter. Here’s Where It Ended Up.
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Quote from: Dave Katleman  - 
My siblings own three Teslas, so I’ve had plenty of time driving one, and several roadtrips. Also have friends who own them.  Great, great car.

Tesla’s service is first rate, but I agree, do not buy one if there isn’t a Tesla service center in your town.

It’s easier for Tesla to learn how to make better cars than legacy carmakers to convert existing cars, but the legacy are playing catching up.

Absolutely agree. I live in MD and there are four service centers within 30 miles of me. In addition mobile service is free while under warranty. If I lived in the Midwest with a service center not close by it would be frustrating but Tesla is covering the US pretty quickly. Their charging infrastructure is also second to none. No issues at all roadtripping. Not a perfect car or company but far surpasses legacy auto.

I've always been a Ford guy but after watching my mom get screwed by the dealership when she bought a Maverick I swore never again with the dealership model.

Long story short, I look forward to seeing EV RVs one day and not having to deal with Cat thefts!
Joe B.
2008 26ft  grey/white Rear Bath
Family of 5 hitting the open road as much as we can.