Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #50 – September 01, 2021, 09:20:30 pm Quote from: Larry W - September 01, 2021, 04:30:36 pmI wasn’t able to find the 220 TB, have a link?And a list of the weights, how much CCC does it have? Fiberglass is strong but heavy.Wonder if a carbon fiber shell is planned for any manufacturers future product, a lighter, stronger material would be a bonus .LarryI emailed Coach House and this information was given to me: "The average 220TB has a dry weight of 10,000 pounds leaving a carry capacity of 4,500 pounds. It can also tow to the maximum rating of 7,500 pounds easily." 1 Likes
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #51 – March 29, 2022, 05:21:59 pm I wanted to provide an update on this post.I was able to view a Coach House Platinum 220 TB. Compared to the Lazy Daze, the entire Coach House RV seemed to be smaller and closed off. In addition, the cost is way higher than the Lazy Daze factory price.The Lazy Daze Rear Bath is going to be worth the wait. 2 Likes
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #52 – March 29, 2022, 06:33:22 pm Sam, I have looked at both the Coachhouse and Phoenix Cruiser models. Both appear to be well made. The Coachhouse is a B+ type of RV and feels small. The lack of windows also makes it feel closed. I have not seen a Phoenix Cruiser in person, but their model 2552 looks very nice. My ideal would be a 27RB as I dont like anything behind me as the driver. But after 2 years on the wait list I dont know when LD will be producing coaches again.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #53 – May 13, 2022, 06:33:32 pm Could we revisit this topic? Any new input?
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #54 – June 23, 2022, 10:35:20 am Quote from: Larry W - July 10, 2021, 06:22:19 pmRVs built on a 4X4 pickup chassis were at first appealing until I realized how long a wheelbase they have, compared to RVs built on an E-Series van chassis. Adding a few more feet of wheelbase renders them unacceptable for off-road use, IMO, making it too easy to high center on sharp dips unless a very short coach is added.Life-long off-roaderLarrySince Larry Wade is one of many "Hero Members," I wanted to request his honest opinion (as well as others) of the Tiger Bengal as a "plan B" option if a new LD build is not possible.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #55 – June 23, 2022, 12:08:29 pm To me, any vehicle choice, an "RV' or other, is largely determined by its primary intended use; some compromises will likely be necessary regardless of which vehicle/platform is chosen. The wheelbase specs for the 2022 Ford F-350 and F-450 models are listed as these:141.6" (Regular Cab)148.0" (SWB SuperCab); 164.2" (LWB SuperCab)159.8" (SWB Crew Cab); 176.0" (LWB Crew Cab)The 2022 Ford E-450's wheelbases are 158" and 176". (The Tiger Bengal is built on a "one ton" chassis, Ford, Chevy, or Dodge; one can look up the wheelbases of the Chevy and Dodge, if interested.)IMO, the Bengal on any of the brands' 4X4 chassis is likely a capable, versatile vehicle with enough clearance for rough roads of varied surfaces, including milder "goat tracks", but it's not a rock hopper (IMO). As said, compromises, including if the ride of the rig is acceptably "comfortable" on the highway and/or standard road surfaces. YMMV, as always. 2 Likes
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #56 – June 23, 2022, 02:38:34 pm If I were going to use my RV for long weekends or vacation trips, the Tiger Bengal would suit me fine.They are expensive for what you get, the 4x4 is a big premium to pay for.However, I live full time in my Lazy Daze and find that the large tanks, big windows and other amenitiesare more important than 4x4 and added clearance.I'd like to get away from the Ford E series van chassis. I have had one now 15 years and it's shortcomings arebecoming more noticeable with time.I have had my eye on a Dynamax Isata 5 28SS. Available with 4x4 and some nice options.No nice windows but on a truck chassis, giving more legroom, no doghouse and quieter.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #57 – June 23, 2022, 04:49:44 pm The price of the above Dynamax takes my breath away. Isata 5 28SS | Dynamax - Manufacturer of Luxury Class C & Super C MotorhomesNevertheless it’s interesting.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #58 – June 23, 2022, 07:48:17 pm Quote from: Jota - June 23, 2022, 02:38:34 pmI have had my eye on a Dynamax Isata 5 28SS. Does Dynamax offer a model without slides? Since slides have problems and add a lot of weight, I try my best to avoid them.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #59 – June 23, 2022, 09:12:43 pm Hi Sam; I notice that Dynamax is owned by Forrest River. "Forest River, a company formed from the ashes of Cobra Industries way back in 1996, has been actively buying everything and anything that looked palatable. It purchased Coachmen, Viking, Dynamax, Prime Time, Palomino, Shasta, Sportscoach, and Georgie Boy. To continue the Thor investment model, Forest River, Inc. and its divisions were acquired by Berkshire Hathaway, a major investment firm owned by Warren Buffett." For that price, about double a current Lazy Daze (if you could buy one!) I was appalled that Lithium batteries weren't standard. They are an option, and the extended option is about what I have now. 400 Amp Hours. And 800 watts solar. With dual alternators and a 8 KW diesel generator, more options and taxes about a 1/4 million dollar investment. After about 5 years you might be able to get one for the price of an LD. Slide outs do detract from weight carrying capacity, but this one seems to have plenty to spare. 18,500# GVWR. In the old days slide outs were a bit unreliable, but they are much better now. Like all things, they do require some maintenance, and repair techs are learning to work on them better. (some are). And some slide outs are better than others. More money and sometimes you get better stuff. A lot of room wasted on the rear bedroom, that doesn't seem to have much use other than bedroom. I've actually been in one of these at Dennis Dillon's, Orange Co. Ca. and it was very nice. At 31' long it is reasonable for length. It comes with a lot of options standard. Full body paint, (not polyurethane?) and levelers. For Jota, it is factory 4 wheel drive, actually 6 wheels. RonB
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #60 – June 23, 2022, 10:44:40 pm Quote from: Wingersky - June 23, 2022, 07:48:17 pmDoes Dynamax offer a model without slides? Since slides have problems and add a lot of weight, I try my best to avoid them.The Isata 5 28SS has a small slide, so not as bad as some. Looks like you could live with the slide in easily enough. It's just the dinette.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #61 – June 23, 2022, 10:47:27 pm There is a Dynamax dealer in Texas that knocks about $75k off of retail.Still a lot of money. Also, being on a Ram 5500 chassis, maintaining it will be a bit more than an E450 would be.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #62 – June 23, 2022, 10:55:00 pm Quote from: Ed & Margee - June 23, 2022, 04:49:44 pmThe price of the above Dynamax takes my breath away. Isata 5 28SS | Dynamax - Manufacturer of Luxury Class C & Super C MotorhomesNevertheless it’s interesting. Indeed! Personally, I refuse to pay more for a RV than I payed for my sticks and bricks house but that’s just me. 😏
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #63 – June 24, 2022, 09:32:46 am Quote from: HiLola - June 23, 2022, 10:55:00 pmIndeed! Personally, I refuse to pay more for a RV than I payed for my sticks and bricks house but that’s just me. 😏That price is more than double what my sticks and bricks cost me. It is less than half which people have offered on it now. Location and time enter into the equation. Just sayin' 1 Likes
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #64 – June 25, 2022, 08:46:35 am We looked at Coach House. Bad: Queen bed only 6 foot. Small inside. $$$$$. Paint quality over time deteriorated on older models. Cabinet locks tended to break. 450 chassis. Some replacement coach parts can be hard to find due to being higher end.Good: Twin beds very long for tall people. Quality appliances. Quiet ride due to fiberglass. Unique look. Alcoa rims. Hydraulic slides. Factory service available. Travel group. Counter extend option. Offer options for new technology as they became reliable. Family owned.Here is Musician John Mayer’s RVMusician John Mayer Shows Off His Beastly EarthRoamer - RVshare.comThey should get you anywhere!Praying that LD can get through these tough times so they can continue building quality units so desperately needed nowadays.Ron 3 Likes
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #65 – June 25, 2022, 09:00:18 pm Quote from: Wingersky - June 23, 2022, 10:35:20 amSince Larry Wade is one of many "Hero Members," I wanted to request his honest opinion (as well as others) of the Tiger Bengal as a "plan B" option if a new LD build is not possible.Having never seen a Tiger Bengal in person, I'm only familiar with the older models.If you want to camp in remote places, down poor roads, it's a good choice but I wouldn't want one with a four-door cab, the length becomes much too long. The extra wheelbase does provide a better ride than the E-450 chassis. Almost any other RV will have much smaller windows than an LD.In return for being built on a pickup chassis, the coach is tight inside, less roomy than even then 24' LD models. It would have been more appealing 20 or 30 years ago when we did more backcountry camping. I have been happily surprised at the places we have been able to get out 24' FL into, the dual real wheels provide more traction than expected.The bottom line is if the off-road capability is more important than interior space and comfort, it may be the right RV for you.For us, the Jeep toad allows us to go the places a Tiger could only dream of. YMMVLarry 1 Likes
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #66 – June 25, 2022, 11:20:31 pm Thank you, everyone, for your responses/opinions. More honest opinions are welcome.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #67 – August 05, 2022, 11:42:31 am Since I cannot order a new Lazy Daze Rear Bath (LD RB), I thought it would be appropriate for the predicted topic to be updated for further input.
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #68 – August 05, 2022, 12:40:32 pm Hi Sam; Well as alternative motorhomes go, and "new" is no longer available in Lazy Daze trim, the previously mentioned 'Hoosier Custom Cruiser' and 'Nexus' Brands come to mind. I don't know where their chassis come from. All brands are being impacted by supply chain issues. Hoosier Cruiser has a dearth of any expansive windows, at Home • Hoosier Custom Cruiser RV . and Nexus Build 2022 Phantom 24 P Class C Gas Motorhome | NeXus RV | Elkhart Indiana. RonB
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #69 – August 05, 2022, 02:03:24 pm Quote from: RonB - August 05, 2022, 12:40:32 pmHi Sam; Well as alternative motorhomes go, and "new" is no longer available in Lazy Daze trim, the previously mentioned 'Hoosier Custom Cruiser' and 'Nexus' Brands come to mind. I don't know where their chassis come from. All brands are being impacted by supply chain issues. Hoosier Cruiser has a dearth of any expansive windows, at Home • Hoosier Custom Cruiser RV . and Nexus Build 2022 Phantom 24 P Class C Gas Motorhome | NeXus RV | Elkhart Indiana. RonBRon,Thank you for the suggestions and links. Are there any other possibilities that come to mind without slides?
Re: Hypothetical Question Reply #70 – August 06, 2022, 01:59:13 pm Quote from: Wingersky - August 05, 2022, 02:03:24 pmRon,Thank you for the suggestions and links. Are there any other possibilities that come to mind without slides?An interesting one for me is the Coach House RV on the Ford TRX 11k chassis. I like the turbo engine and it may be more comfortable to ride in. No slide but still get 2 twins convertible to king. Probably capacity challenged but like riding a van.Ron 1 Likes
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