rear dually tire rotation June 29, 2022, 01:37:36 pm Having my oil changed this week and thought a tire rotation would be a good idea.Reading past comments, it appears the only the front tires should be rotated. Is that correct?My concern is always the passenger side inner dually tire that gets heat exposure from the exhaust. I do not have a heat shield. I do have a TPMS system. My tires were installed about a year ago and it tracks ok, no wandering in the steering since I adjusted my tire pressure. It think it is 67 in front and 73 in back. I have only about 4 thousand miles on this new tires. Should I hold off on the rotation if the wear looks even? Does anyone rotated the drivers and passenger side inner and outer dually tires? Thanks for your insight. Kimberley from Kansas
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #1 – June 29, 2022, 01:48:49 pm Actually we rotate and balance all our LD tires to include the rear tires for the heat reason mentioned above and to help even tire wear. And a good many others in the LD Neighborhood do the same thing. So you’re in good company.
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #2 – June 29, 2022, 01:54:16 pm Hi Kimberley; I don't rotate my tires at all. Given the difficulties of changing positions, it isn't worth it to me. Larry Wade I believe has changed his around after having that inside passenger side dual tire blow out. At 4000 miles, good that the tires are showing no abnormal wear, but I wouldn't consider that type of 'maintenance' rotation until the 20,000 to 30,000 mile mark. RonB
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #3 – June 29, 2022, 04:00:16 pm I just had mine rotated and balanced at America’s Tire, where I bought them. The two rear outers were swapped side to side, and the inners side to side. The reason not to do front to back, or inner to outer, is the extended valve stems on the rear are specific to inner versus outer, so swapping them would require dismounting and remounting the tires on the wheels. 3 Likes
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #4 – June 30, 2022, 08:52:29 am Spoke to mechanic yesterday and they stated that they can rotate but would have to send it out to get balanced. Leaving on a 1400 mile journey next week.They are very busy with several fire trucks, class A's and buses in their parking lot. Finding a shop here in this town that would work on a Class C took several months to find. Should I hold off on addressing the tires until I find a shop that can do both? I am not sure what rotation without balancing the tires would do to the alignment. Thank you for your insight, Kimberley
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #5 – June 30, 2022, 09:50:51 am I am not sure if I received this advice from the Mothership - or elsewhere - but this is what I do. This is assuming that your front end is aligned correctly and tracks nicely on the road.Carefully remove the wheel covers yourself before going to the tires shop. Many threads here on that process if you don't know.At the tire shop: Have them remove and reinstall as follows.Front tires - move the left front tire to the right-side front.Front tires - move the right-side tire front to the left side front.Spin balance both front tires. It's not necessary to remove your steel Borg stems if you have them. With the weight of the Borg Steel/brass stems it's difficult to perfectly balance but ask them to do the best they can. It usually works out ok.Rear Duals - take both left rear duals and install on right side. Just as they come off.Rear Duals - take both right rear duals and install on left side. Just as they come off. Do not let them break the tire apart and do not balance if you have not had any shaking or vibrations before. If a dual is out of balance, you will feel it in the coach. Keep the tire pressure on each dual no more than 5 psi difference. It's best for the psi in each dual to be the same. On our 2010 RB our Duals are run at 73 psi, and the front tires at 63 psi. Those pressures may be different for your coach. Again, I do not claim to be any expert on tires, but this is what I have done for many years, and it works for me. Cheers!Tony R. (aka codefour)
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #6 – June 30, 2022, 10:19:33 am Thank you as always for your all of your advise. I have to admit it can be a challenge to keep equal pressure dually tires. I typically check prior to leaving for a trip.I have several tire pressure gauges and have not found one that results in exact measurements and it always seems challenging when adjusting psi. This often results in a range of 5 psi. I can see this on the TPMS within a hour of driving.Thanks again, Kimberley
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #7 – June 30, 2022, 10:32:45 am Recommend 65 in the fronts and 70 in the rears
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #8 – June 30, 2022, 11:06:23 am Tire pressure gauges are often all over the place in regards to consistent accuracy. The one I’ve found that is easy to use and pretty spot on was recommended by Joan. Accutire MS-4021B Digital Tire Pressure Gauge Amazon.com: Accutire MS-4021B Digital Tire Pressure Gauge : AutomotiveRegarding tire rotation I concur with RonB that you have too few miles to warrant a rotation. I believe Larry mentioned a 10,000 mile rotation point. Fronts move left side to right side. Rears move the same but don’t change their positions. Outside tires stay outside and inners stay inside. Any attempt to place the long valve stems to another position could spell disaster resulting in leaks somewhere down the road. KISS is where many of us stand on tire maintenance. Air tires in the morning before you drive and preferably before the sun starts to warm them up. Be aware that driving warms tires and heat naturally increase tire pressure as the air inside the tires expand. Also note that left side to right side tire pressures may differ as you drive depending on a hot sun beating down on one side or the other (I believe). Not by much, but your TPMS may reflect the added pressure. They are pretty accurate in that regard.Your TPMS and your tire guage will, most likely, be off a pound or so between one another. That’s normal. The dually set is ok to be off a pound or so between one another. It’s not rocket science, right. Just keep an eye on them and you should be fine.Kent As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #9 – June 30, 2022, 11:12:08 am Hi Kimberley; "Should I hold off on the rotation if the wear looks even?" Yes, don't do anything if the tire wear is even! With a 2000 MB, you didn't say how many miles you have on your rig. If you bought those new tires because of uneven tire wear, then you could have worn suspension problems. Worn bushing on the sway bar. Wheel bearings in the 100,000+ miles range. Worn shock absorbers at the 80,000 mile range. Previous accident damage issues, etc. The Ford front end is capable of going lots of miles once the initial alignment is done as a completed vehicle (motorhome vs. ambulance vs. delivery truck). 4000 miles, for these tires, isn't even broken in and is totally unnecessary. I'm glad that you found the tire inflation for your rig that gives you the best handling. You said: "This often results in a range of 5 psi. I can see this on the TPMS within a hour of driving." Your tire pressure will shift around as you drive depending on heat and load. Ignore this unless it is out of bounds from normal situations. My TPMS can show a change of 10 to 20 pounds depending on driving conditions. Weather, speed, uphill, downhill, etc. Once balanced, the tire on the rim doesn't need balancing again unless there is abnormal wear. Any service that takes the tire off the rim, (dismounting) may need rebalancing. The observation about the inner dual on the passenger side being exposed to more heat, may be more related to towing a heavy vehicle, a 4000+ pound Jeep, and may not apply in your case. It is hard to even document that it is even an issue. My E350 comes standard with some heat shielding in that area. I don't have the horsepower or weight load that Larry's rig has. RonB 1 Likes
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #10 – June 30, 2022, 11:52:42 am I'm on my 4th set of tires and have never rotated them. My reasoning - it's a pain with the valve extensions, and I replace tires due to age way before I'm close to replacing them for wear. I replaced one set that was aged when I bought them. Another under warranty after Michelin decided they were cracking prematurely, and another due to age. This is the opposite of what happens in my passenger cars where I replace tires when the tread is worn. My take - unless you're driving lots of miles (like 12-15k per year EVERY year), it's not needed. I have 100k on my rig and I'm pretty sure I've never replaced tires that were even halfway through their usable tread. Some uneven wear due to lack of rotation isn't an issue.Alignment wear, on the other hand, is worth fixing. Rich 2 Likes
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #11 – June 30, 2022, 12:04:26 pm I absolutely agree with Rich on this one! On the subject of tire pressure gauges, I like this one best: Amazon.com: JACO ElitePro Digital Tire Pressure Gauge - Professional... It has large easy to read numbers (I don't need my glasses on), A blue night light for dim lighting, or in the dark. A hose and friendly fitting for the air connection. Easy to replace (no tiny screws) standard AAA batteries. It also has a push button air bleed to adjust air pressure. And it holds the display reading until you erase it. It also goes up to 200 psi. The new Agilis Michelin tire run at 90 psi, not 80 like previous ones. So the ability to go higher helps. My 7 gallon air tank on the motorhome goes up to 125 psi. RonB 1 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: rear dually tire rotation Reply #12 – June 30, 2022, 04:56:02 pm Very rich and insightful discussion as always. I have around 86,000 mile on the 2000 mid bath. Tires replaced within the last 16 months. They were over 7 years old but appeared in great condition. An alignment was done when I got the new tires, about 4-5 thousand miles ago. Have had two different shops that I find reliable looks at different items regarding alignment and even though it is original "stock" to the LD the shocks, springs, steering arms are noted as still being in good condition. Steering box had slight seepage but not enough to make a mark on the concrete.Had brakes, rear passenger caliper, and rear passenger axil seal all done when I first received the Ld. I know a shock upgrade is in the future. Thanks for the link to the PSI gauge. I like the I can fill up with air and read the psi at the same time. Kimberley
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