Back-up camera... August 22, 2021, 03:28:10 pm We have an '06 24'TK and would like to install a backup camera to keep an eye on backing up, traffic and our Jeep towed... Any recommendations as to what brand? It seems a wireless camera would be easier to install vs. running a cable from the rear to the front... Would also like at least a 5-7" monitor, color preferably. Also, where does one get power for the camera - run a wire off marker lights...?(BTW, I have looked through past posts on cameras...).TIA- Bill
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #1 – August 22, 2021, 03:36:53 pm This is what we have used for the past either years, it's obsolete but there are many models like it available today.Amazon.com : Rear View Safety Backup Camera System with 7" Display (Black)...A hardwired system has the camera powered through the cord, a wireless system will need to be hardwired to a 12-volt power source, have its own replaceable battery, or a solar power/battery. I prefer the dependability of a hardwired system but it does take more work to install.Backup camera & monitor | Flickr Larry 2 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #2 – August 22, 2021, 03:54:19 pm Thanks, Larry. I did see your post in my search and especially like the backplate idea on the camera mount. Good info.-Bill
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #3 – August 22, 2021, 06:13:46 pm Following another member’s lead, I bought a “Type S” solar powered blue tooth unit which is mounted in a license plate ring that you just install over your plate. The connectivity is great, excellent picture, but . . . Since the license plate on our TK is affixed on the extreme left of the rear of the coach, you get only a great view of that side. The alignment lines in the monitor that aid your positioning are all skewed to that side. So, it’s pretty much useless. I’m thinking of trying to remount the ring more centrally, like on the spare tire cover, but that would draw attention to it for casual thieves, and probably would look lousy. — Jon 1 Likes
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #4 – August 22, 2021, 07:00:38 pm Jon,What about attaching it above the rear window pointing downward?You could use Very High Bond double sided tape - trying first with a more easily removable tape, of course. Warren
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #5 – August 22, 2021, 07:45:26 pm Warren's suggestion is a good one. If you look at RVs with built-in or factory-installed rear-view cameras, they will always be above the rear window, angled downward. If aimed correctly, this shows you not only vehicles on the road behind you, but also how far your rear bumper is from the nearest obstacle. I'm not talking about the fancy guidelines in the display, but something much simpler: aim the camera so that the bumper is just barely visible at the bottom of the picture. A rearward-facing license plate camera doesn't give you such a precise view of how close you are to hitting something.As far as mounting is concerned, again, Warren nailed it: 3M's VHB 5952 is the recommended tape for this kind of thing. If there's a cable going onto the camera, be sure you leave a "drip loop" so that water doesn't run down the cable and enter the camera. Yes, I know they are supposed to be sealed at the cable entry, but I've seen several cameras drowned. 4 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #6 – August 22, 2021, 08:28:45 pm Quote from: Jon & Loni - August 22, 2021, 06:13:46 pmFollowing another member’s lead, I bought a “Type S” solar-powered blue tooth unit which is mounted in a license plate ring that you just install over your plate. The connectivity is great, excellent picture, but . . . I bought a Type S camera system from Costco, on sale, and mounted it on the front of our Jeep to provide a better view of the ground in front of us when off-roading. It has a great image and the license plate camera is solar-powered and has a good size battery for operation in the dark. It needs to see sunlight to stay charged or can be charged through its accessible USB port.https://www.costco.com/type-s-6.8%22-widescreen-solar-powered-hd-wireless-backup-camera-2.0.product.100681295.htmlThe problem with mounting the license plate camera above the rear window is the lack of adjustability, it will be looking up at the sky, not the road, plus since it is a license plate holder, it will look goofy. A traditional rear camera is adjustable and would be better looking, IMO.Larry 1 Likes
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #7 – August 23, 2021, 01:10:09 pm If your LD has the rear roof luggage rail on it like mine then another possible camera mount location is at the end of a pvc extension that is mounted to the luggage rail. You can easily customize the length, height, angle etc. utilizing combinations of pvc pipe, extensions, elbows etc. to accommodate your viewing preferences. A camera was attached using the 3M VHB tape previously mentioned. The picture is of a mount I was building to attach to the passenger side rail for a camera to view that blind side. I sold the RV before I was able to install it but I did already have a similar mount and camera on the rear rail for several years that worked great. I built the mount so I could view the edge of the rear bumper, both rear corners and even some of the road behind my tow vehicle. It was very stable, vibration free and gave me several additional options for where to run wiring. Just a possible idea if you have the luggage rail.Matt 1 Likes
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #8 – August 23, 2021, 02:27:15 pm Is the 3M VHB-5952 the kind of tape you will never get back off? No “mulligans?”Dave
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #9 – August 23, 2021, 04:51:45 pm Hi Dave. I've been using 3M VHB tape for years and with most surfaces it is removable without damage. Not easily, but careful attention, and a small amount of heat from a heat gun, will take it off. Eternabond is much harder to remove cleanly. Gorilla tape, a polyurethane compound, is nearly impossible to get off cleanly unless the surface can be heated, scraped and withstand acetone. (metal and glass) Since this thread is about mounting a backup camera, I wouldn't use tape. It will give-out in high temperature situations, given a bit of age and sunlight. My candidate for a wireless camera is Amazon.com: Furrion Vision S 7 Inch Wireless RV Backup System with 1 Rear... * Bill; The TK may have an easily removed floor on the inside of the compartment that goes across above the back window. My '99 had small brass screws around the perimeter. The factory (LD) installed my backup camera there, along with the standard stereo speakers. The camera wire went through the back wall even with the floor. And I had a light fixture with 12V. always on, that you could wire to. (I can't remember if I added that wire.) But the wiring for the middle marker light is right there also, so you could use that to power the camera too. That way it would be easier to remember to turn off the camera. RonB * [edit] lots of negative reviews for many of the Amazon wireless cameras. Like Larry, I'd still put in a wired camera. 2 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #10 – August 23, 2021, 05:29:11 pm Thanks all for the suggestions. Remember,tho, no wires needed. Solar powered camera with Bluetooth. No roof rack on my 06 TK, and Larry nailed it: mounting above the window would look goofy. Maybe some creative trimming of the frame (which houses the solar cells and battery) to make it less conspicuous is in order. We’ll see. For now, I’ll just practice what has worked for 15 years: GOAL! (thanks Joan) — Jon
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #11 – August 24, 2021, 04:30:37 pm Quote from: RonB - August 23, 2021, 04:51:45 pmHi Dave. I've been using 3M VHB tape for years and with most surfaces it is removable without damage. Not easily, but careful attention, and a small amount of heat from a heat gun, will take it off. Eternabond is much harder to remove cleanly. Gorilla tape, a polyurethane compound, is nearly impossible to get off cleanly unless the surface can be heated, scraped and withstand acetone. (metal and glass) Since this thread is about mounting a backup camera, I wouldn't use tape. It will give-out in high temperature situations, given a bit of age and sunlight. My candidate for a wireless camera is Amazon.com: Furrion Vision S 7 Inch Wireless RV Backup System with 1 Rear... * Bill; The TK may have an easily removed floor on the inside of the compartment that goes across above the back window. My '99 had small brass screws around the perimeter. The factory (LD) installed my backup camera there, along with the standard stereo speakers. The camera wire went through the back wall even with the floor. And I had a light fixture with 12V. always on, that you could wire to. (I can't remember if I added that wire.) But the wiring for the middle marker light is right there also, so you could use that to power the camera too. That way it would be easier to remember to turn off the camera. RonB * [edit] lots of negative reviews for many of the Amazon wireless cameras. Like Larry, I'd still put in a wired camera. Thanks Ron, I'll take the "floor" out and check the wiring in that back cabinet. I'm guessing power wouldn't be alway on for the rear marker light unless light are turned on so... drilling through and sealing properly might be necessary... that would provide power to the camera for a "wireless" system plugging the monitor in to the cig lighter.I'm hesitant to use a solar camera system because I like to leave the camera on while driving (keep an eye on the jeep) and of course, backing up. Cloudy days and evening driving could run the camera's battery down.And thanks for the camera recommendations!~ Bill As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #12 – August 24, 2021, 06:44:13 pm Hi Bill; Yes you would have to have the marker lights on to provide power for the camera, but that could be a good thing just to mark you going down the road. The headlights could be off. If you can get power from a light fixture, there is one florescent just forward of that compartment. It could be tapped into to run a wire into the ceiling of that cabinet to the camera. You would need an on/off switch, and remember to turn it off. Then the monitor plugged in under the dash. Another camera from Amazon.com: FHD 1080P 2 Digital Wireless Backup Camera System for RVs/Trailer... could be placed pn the passenger side rear corner, or aimed forward on the roof passenger side to watch for tree branches. Lots of possibilities. RonB 1 Likes As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #13 – August 25, 2021, 12:16:58 am Thanks again, Ron! That back-up system looks real good and a great price! I think that's the one to get - great specs on it, too. Appreciate the link.
Re: Back-up camera... Reply #14 – August 25, 2021, 02:08:20 am Powering a wireless camera is an issue with no easy fixes except for running a wire forward to a circuit that is hot when the ignition is on. IMO, if you go that far, switching to a hardwired camera is not much more difficult. Hardwired cameras receive power through their video cords.Larry 2 Likes
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