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Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #25 –
Hello!  Hope it is not too late to post on this topic.  I may have an opportunity to purchase a 2003 RB V10 with the Banks power system.  Hearing about the engine just dying sound terrifying!  Should I pass on this LD or would getting the chips in the Banks system replaced eliminate the problem?  Thanks!!  :)
2003 RB “Lulu Boo Berry” The Blue Ghost
2008 Jeep Liberty “Mr. Toad”
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #26 –
Quote from: Linda C  - 
Hello!  Hope it is not too late to post on this topic.  I may have an opportunity to purchase a 2003 RB V10 with the Banks power system.  Hearing about the engine just dying sound terrifying!  Should I pass on this LD or would getting the chips in the Banks system replaced eliminate the problem?  Thanks!!  :)

I would jump on it, if you like the rig. I was able to drive the LD with the Banks disconnected with no problems (until I had it serviced). You can do the same if necessary.

Go get it!
My wheels:
2003 MB
2012 Jeep Liberty
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #27 –
Thanks Deb!
2003 RB “Lulu Boo Berry” The Blue Ghost
2008 Jeep Liberty “Mr. Toad”
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #28 –
Hmmm,  I have the banks headers and exhaust system and 5 star tune and have had no problems. 
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #29 –
Quote from: Linda C  - 
Hello!  Hope it is not too late to post on this topic.  I may have an opportunity to purchase a 2003 RB V10 with the Banks power system.  Hearing about the engine just dying sound terrifying!  Should I pass on this LD or would getting the chips in the Banks system replaced eliminate the problem?  Thanks!!  :)
Bank's exhaust systems from that time period had occasional chip failures that caused the engine to stop running.
The cure, if this happens, is to reset the computer to its stock configuration by removing the Bank's chip
I know three LD owners who had this problem, two in the middle of nowhere, one deep in Mexico.
I know of very few engine problems that caused the V10 engine to quit running, the Bank's chips are among this small group.
Learn to disable the chip if this happens.

I would not hesitate to buy an LD because it has a Bank's system, but I would find how to quickly remove the chip, probably trying at home once to make sure of the method and tools needed.

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #30 –
Thank you, great advice!
2003 RB “Lulu Boo Berry” The Blue Ghost
2008 Jeep Liberty “Mr. Toad”
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #31 –
Quote from: Larry W  - 
I would not hesitate to buy an LD because it has a Bank's system, but I would find how to quickly remove the chip, probably trying at home once to make sure of the method and tools needed.

Larry

And go back to a stock air filter vs. the K&N if it's still installed.
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #32 –
Quote from: Michelle C  - 
And go back to a stock air filter vs. the K&N if it's still installed.

Many years ago, Andy had a Bank's system installed on Skylark. When we saw him soon after,  I convinced him to dump the K&N filter and return to the stock, Motorcraft filter. I have worked on too many vehicles using K&N washable filters that had filthy intake manifolds,
K&N filters have less restriction and allow slightly more air to flow through an engine, In return, the filtering is reduced, allowing small debris into the engine.
K&N filters are loaded with oil and some of it is carried into the engine, along with small particles of dirt.  If you do use one, periodically the oily mess needs to be washed and re-oiled. It's a nasty job and much easier to drop in stock, paper filter

I always recommend sticking with the stock, Motorcraft filters. Ford knows what they are doing when it comes to providing the longest engine life, stick with the stock air filter.

Larry

Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #33 –
"...periodically the oily mess needs to be washed and re-oiled. It's a nasty job"
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It is indeed a nasty job; I washed and re-oiled a K&N air filter at a Ladeze gathering a few years ago. The woman's son had replaced the OEM filter with a K&N, telling her that it was superior to a "paper" filter.

I followed the instructions given on the K&N website at the time; it was a three-glove-change job, a stinky (spray cleaner), messy, dirty, time-consuming and steppy process, including letting the washed filter dry thoroughly and taking care not to "over-oil" the filter. What a PITA!

YMMV; I'll stick with the Motorcraft FA-1632.
2003 TK has a new home
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #34 –
I had a diesel shop once tell me, " If you want to dust an engine, install a K & N " I do have one for a 94 Ford 460 laying on the work bench if anyone wants it.

Jon
1994 MB
 
Re: Update on my Intermittent Starting and Random Shutdown Issue : Banks Power
Reply #35 –
Quote from: Larry W  - 
Many years ago, Andy had a Bank's system installed on Skylark. When we saw him soon after,  I convinced him to dump the K&N filter and return to the stock, Motorcraft filter. I have worked on too many vehicles using K&N washable filters that had filthy intake manifolds,

Indeed.  Ours caused our IAC (idle air control) to fail not once but twice when we owned our 1999.  I would never run a K&N in an engine.