Re: The China virus - future production Reply #25 – March 01, 2020, 07:11:54 pm We will have a vaccine which will take the edge off for the future. A company in San Diego had a vaccine devised in 3 hours, just needs development and testing, but that's lotsa months in the future.
Re: The China virus - future production Reply #26 – March 01, 2020, 08:22:18 pm Corona virus . . . It was only a matter of time before it went viral.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDc_6KRaX6Q
Re: The China virus - future production Reply #27 – March 02, 2020, 12:52:52 pm Quote from: Ken and Joyce - February 28, 2020, 08:53:39 amYesterday, Joyce and I ate lunch with some friends who recently retired from working in medicine. They expressed the opinion that there is a _lot_ of hype in the media about covid-19. It's effects (deaths, etc.) are mostly in line with other flu viruses. They suggested that the hype may be because there is not vaccine yet (primarily). As with any communicable disease, common sense precautions prevail (hand washing, etc.). I agree with Ken. l have a friend whose work is connected to a National biocontainment center (providing training for diseases that need biocontainment procedures". Her information is similar to Ken's - the hype is just making it seem like a bigger of an issue.Jane
Re: The China virus - future production Reply #28 – March 02, 2020, 01:47:52 pm This virus has a long incubation time.That is causing all kinds of problems.There have been people released from quarantine because they tested negative, onlyshowing signs of the virus afterwards.It's going to be impossible to get a handle on this if the current way of dealing with it continues.The government will do everything to keep a panic from happening.It's going to happen anyway.Bleach and Purell have all but vanished from store shelves.Hunker down and wait is what I'm doing. The next few months should tell us what is really going on.
Covid 19 Reply #29 – March 03, 2020, 08:44:15 am An article from the NY Times on how, what and why, to protect you and others on this new epidemic.https://nyti.ms/2PFmrv6Glen 3 Likes
Re: Daily Updates - COVID-19 Reply #30 – March 05, 2020, 12:08:45 pm I received this from a member of the Coachman family in San Palo Brazil. Elizabeth, my doctor wife said this is excellent information.Ira MeyerMarch 1 at 6:28 PMSound advice/ a worthwhile read:A DOCTOR ADVISES DOCTORS RE THE CORONAVIRUS:"Date: February 26, 2020 at 2:35:50 PM ESTSubject: What I am doing for the upcoming COVID-19 (coronavirus) pandemicDear Colleagues, as some of you may recall, when I was a professor of pathology at the University of California San Diego, I was one of the first molecular virologists in the world to work on coronaviruses (the 1970s). I was the first to demonstrate the number of genes the virus contained. Since then, I have kept up with the coronavirus field and its multiple clinical transfers into the human population (e.g., SARS, MERS), from different animal sources.The current projections for its expansion in the US are only probable, due to continued insufficient worldwide data, but it is most likely to be widespread in the US by mid to late March and April.Here is what I have done and the precautions that I take and will take. These are the same precautions I currently use during our influenza seasons, except for the mask and gloves.:1) NO HANDSHAKING! Use a fist bump, slight bow, elbow bump, etc.2) Use ONLY your knuckle to touch light switches. elevator buttons, etc.. Lift the gasoline dispenser with a paper towel or use a disposable glove.3) Open doors with your closed fist or hip - do not grasp the handle with your hand, unless there is no other way to open the door. Especially important on bathroom and post office/commercial doors.4) Use disinfectant wipes at the stores when they are available, including wiping the handle and child seat in grocery carts.5) Wash your hands with soap for 10-20 seconds and/or use a greater than 60% alcohol-based hand sanitizer whenever you return home from ANY activity that involves locations where other people have been.6) Keep a bottle of sanitizer available at each of your home's entrances. AND in your car for use after getting gas or touching other contaminated objects when you can't immediately wash your hands.7) If possible, cough or sneeze into a disposable tissue and discard. Use your elbow only if you have to. The clothing on your elbow will contain infectious virus that can be passed on for up to a week or more!What I have stocked in preparation for the pandemic spread to the US:1) Latex or nitrile latex disposable gloves for use when going shopping, using the gasoline pump, and all other outside activity when you come in contact with contaminated areas.Note: This virus is spread in large droplets by coughing and sneezing. This means that the air will not infect you! BUT all the surfaces where these droplets land are infectious for about a week on average - everything that is associated with infected people will be contaminated and potentially infectious. The virus is on surfaces and you will not be infected unless your unprotected face is directly coughed or sneezed upon. This virus only has cell receptors for lung cells (it only infects your lungs) The only way for the virus to infect you is through your nose or mouth via your hands or an infected cough or sneeze onto or into your nose or mouth.2) Stock up now with disposable surgical masks and use them to prevent you from touching your nose and/or mouth (We touch our nose/mouth 90X/day without knowing it!). This is the only way this virus can infect you - it is lung-specific. The mask will not prevent the virus in a direct sneeze from getting into your nose or mouth - it is only to keep you from touching your nose or mouth.3) Stock up now with hand sanitizers and latex/nitrile gloves (get the appropriate sizes for your family). The hand sanitizers must be alcohol-based and greater than 60% alcohol to be effective.4) Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY "cold-like" symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.I, as many others do, hope that this pandemic will be reasonably contained, BUT I personally do not think it will be. Humans have never seen this snake-associated virus before and have no internal defense against it. Tremendous worldwide efforts are being made to understand the molecular and clinical virology of this virus. Unbelievable molecular knowledge about the genomics, structure, and virulence of this virus has already been achieved. BUT, there will be NO drugs or vaccines available this year to protect us or limit the infection within us. Only symptomatic support is available.I hope these personal thoughts will be helpful during this potentially catastrophic pandemic. You are welcome to share this email. Good luck to all of us! JimJames Robb, MD FCAP 4 Likes
Re: Daily Updates - COVID-19 Reply #31 – March 05, 2020, 01:14:30 pm I was hoping the good doctor had some tips for traveling by air. While we are monitoring the situation, we have no plans currently to modify our May trip to Kauai.Hopefully optimistic . . . 1 Likes
Re: Daily Updates - COVID-19 Reply #32 – March 05, 2020, 01:44:15 pm Unfortunately, it's too late.This has been going on undetected for a few months now.Testing has been very slow and with air travel, the hub and spoke system, It's everywhere and self isolation and quarantine is the best short term solution.I have a wedding to attend in Las Vegas the end of this month.Looking more and more like I won't be attending.
Re: Daily Updates - COVID-19 Reply #33 – March 05, 2020, 02:15:12 pm Jota I’m actually hoping I get quarantined on Kauai!
Re: Daily Updates - COVID-19 Reply #34 – March 05, 2020, 03:48:33 pm I have a very good friend that is the supervisor of aircraft maintenance with American Airlines in Tampa. He says the best ultra filtered air in the airliners is coming from the nozzle above each seat. He says anytime one flies to have the nozzle full open and directed directly at your face. Its not perfect but it is the best that can be done while flying. The plastic walking bubble won't fit inside a plane. :-) 1 Likes
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