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Generator flush/shut off setup

We were finally bitten by lack of preventative maintenance on the generator in our 2011 27 RB. Lack of running it regularly while it sat for 6+ months in our pole barn resulted in expected ethanol related gremlins in the carb. On our trip south this year, the generator started surging pretty dramatically.

Having used highly concentrated gas/Seafoam mix with good success on outboards and other small engines, I picked up a can at Napa along with some 1/4" fuel line for a flushing setup. I came to find out, it's not as simple as running a line from a fuel can to the carb - something many of you are probably aware of. The fuel line leading into the carb from the coach tank is pressurized from a fuel pump somewhere. So, when I tried to tap into the carb with this existing fuel line dangling free - fuel spurted out as the engine was turned over. Since I've no real desire to climb under the RV and swap fuel lines somewhere behind the fuel pump, I'm considering another setup.

The thought is to place a 3-way valve in the fuel line just prior to the carb. Something like this:

Amazon.com : The ROP Shop Fuel Gas SHUTOFF Switch Valve 1/4" 2 Way Toro...

Position 1 would work as it currently does - fuel feeding from the main engine tank and through the existing fuel pump.

Position 2 (off, no flow) would allow the generator to be run dry, helping to avoid problems w/ethanol fuel remaining stagnant in the carb.

Position 3 would allow hooking up a flushing/storage fuel supply, either ethanol free fuel or a concentrated Seafoam mix.

The above will work if the following are true - which is where I could use answers from those in the know.

- If the fuel line is blocked from the main tank, as would be the case when the valve is off or feeding from the alternative fuel supply, will that harm the fuel pump? My guess is no, as it likely encounters that when the float bowl is full anyway. I'm guessing the pump is pressure sensitive, and shuts off when it can't pump?

- For the flushing setup, would keeping the fuel can above the carb be adequate allowing a gravity feed? I'd likely incorporate a fuel bulb to pump it to start, but I'm guessing the only reason a fuel pump exists is due to the generator carb being higher than the coach's fuel tank?

Appreciate any feedback - thanks!

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2011 RB

Re: Generator flush/shut off setup
Reply #1
The generator has its own fuel pump, located just upstream of the carb.  Any T that you put into the system would have to come before this pump.

You can see the details on an Onan 4000 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gutZQAq5Trc&t=3m36s

You may have also seen this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6JEiGbR01A

The Onan carb does have a drain screw on the bottom of the bowl that allows you to drain the fuel from the carburetor if you have no choice but to store it for months without exercise.  Of course, there are other good reasons to exercise the generator monthly but someone we don't have that option.

Good luck with the project!

Rich
'03 MB in NC
2003 MB

 
Re: Generator flush/shut off setup
Reply #2
The thought is to place a 3-way valve in the fuel line just prior to the carb. Something like this:
Amazon.com : The ROP Shop Fuel Gas SHUTOFF Switch Valve 1/4" 2 Way Toro...

- If the fuel line is blocked from the main tank, as would be the case when the valve is off or feeding from the alternative fuel supply, will that harm the fuel pump? My guess is no, as it likely encounters that when the float bowl is full anyway. I'm guessing the pump is pressure sensitive, and shuts off when it can't pump?

- For the flushing setup, would keeping the fuel can above the carb be adequate allowing a gravity feed? I'd likely incorporate a fuel bulb to pump it to start, but I'm guessing the only reason a fuel pump exists is due to the generator carb being higher than the coach's fuel tank?

Look at your generator from below and on one side you will see where the fuel line enters the generator. This is where you would mount a two-way valve.


The generator's fuel line from the gas tank is not pressurized, the generator's electric fuel pump pulls fuel from the tank.
The generator has its own electric fuel pump, while a fuel bulb can be used, it is not necessary .

This is a interesting idea for those who park their LDs for the winter, running the generator's fuel bowl dry could eliminate carburetor problems caused by goo formed from residual evaporated fuel.
A fuel shut-off valve is common on many small engines, too bad Onan didn't provide one for long=term storage.

Larry
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Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
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