5G January 09, 2019, 10:58:19 pm 5G is right around the corner (actually, it's already available is a few large cities in limited quantities, so I hear), and I found this article that discusses the differences between 4G and 5G technology:5G & Cell Phone Signal Boosters: All You Need To Know!
Re: 5G Reply #1 – January 10, 2019, 10:27:59 am Without getting very deep in the weeds 5G isn't as simple as the phone carriers are advertising. Real useful 5G is still at least 2 years away. Please don't trust any ads this or next year about 5G.
Re: 5G Reply #2 – January 10, 2019, 10:41:52 am Quote from: colddog - January 10, 2019, 10:27:59 amWithout getting very deep in the weeds 5G isn't as simple as the phone carriers are advertising. Real useful 5G is still at least 2 years away. Please don't trust any ads this or next year about 5G. Agreed, and you will need to replace your phone with a 5G-friendly device to get true 5G.
Re: 5G Reply #3 – January 10, 2019, 11:29:41 am This information comes from a discussion over on the Escapees Discussion Forum about this very subject.Here's an article from Wired, Ignore 5G For Now that says, in part:...5G relies on millimeter-wave signals which can't travel as far as those we use for today's 4G networks, so a 5G network requires a greater number of access points. Wireless carriers would need to invest in an entirely new infrastructure in order to roll out true 5G to their customers with any degree of consistency. Carriers looking to buy themselves the time needed to build that network have been falling back on grand promises, and some muddled messaging about how their new "5G" offerings will take shape.... For those of us who travel, the "greater number of access points" will hinder us in finding a signal for some time. Even now, we run into areas where there are no cell signals or pretty much unuseable 3G. I imagine finding a 5G signal will be even worse.Here's another article from Digital Trends, What is 5G, a Brief History that says, in part:...Although 5G will undoubtedly change the way we interact with each other and consume media, the change won’t happen overnight. It will be years before 5G is up and running smoothly across the U.S. While it’s ultimately a personal decision, it may be wise to hold off on buying a 5G handset in early 2019. In addition to the fact that coverage will likely be very spotty, the hardware will also be first-gen. With the exception of a phone AT&T plans to release at the end of 2019, most of the 5G smartphones that will come in early 2019 will likely have single-band 5G support. Telecom giant Ericsson makes a good argument for waiting on a 5G smartphone. It reports a second generation of 5G chipsets will be announced by the end of 2019, featuring enhanced architecture and lower power consumption. 1 Likes
Re: 5G Reply #4 – January 10, 2019, 11:37:11 am I had a discussion with Verizon yesterday about their Motorola Moto Z3, their first 5G-capable phone. HOWEVER, in order to receive 5G, you must add an attachment...it doesn't receive 5G all by itself. As far as I could determine from what the agent said, the attachment attaches to the back of the phone and makes it thicker. Seems to me that would preclude the use of any kind of protective cover. If I make the change to 5G, I'll wait for a phone that is 5G-capable without the use of any attachment.
Re: 5G Reply #5 – January 10, 2019, 12:00:29 pm From reading the article, it appears that the needed infrastructure of hundreds (thousands?) of small antennas with take many years to build and will never in my lifetime be widely available outside of towns and cities. With 5G's low power and a short range, 4G will be around for a long time to enable longer distance communications. Our cell antenna and amplifier are safe and will not need to be change for a long time, if ever. Heck, Verizon and ATT still can't gives us a decent cell signal and we live in the city. At home, we must use the landline or cable to communicate.Larry
Re: 5G Reply #6 – January 10, 2019, 12:30:36 pm My iPhone 6 and iPad mini 3 on Verizon have never gotten anything except 3G, no matter where I am. I had considered going to an iPhone XR (primarily for the larger display), but after reading many reports of sketchy connectivity (with any provider) in weaker signal areas with all of the new iPhones, I decided that the outlay did not justify the return.
Re: 5G Reply #7 – January 10, 2019, 01:24:01 pm I've had excellent connectivity with all my iPhones in fringe areas and get a new one every year. Verizon , as you know, is usually the best way to go. Old phones are adequate, of course, for many people. Frank
Re: 5G Reply #8 – January 10, 2019, 07:54:38 pm As a frequent boondocker, I'll take better coverage over faster speeds any day of the week. Due to its wavelength constraints, 5G sounds as if it will have worse coverage, not better, so I don't expect to be using it anytime soon.
Re: 5G Reply #9 – January 10, 2019, 08:08:55 pm "My iPhone 6 and iPad mini 3 on Verizon have never gotten anything except 3G, no matter where I am."That's really strange, Joan. Apple's specs for both your iPad Mini Retina (AKA iPad Mini 2) and your iPhone 6 say they support Verizon LTE.I routinely got Verizon LTE on my iPad Mini Retina; I've gotten Verizon LTE and AT&T's equivalent on my iPad Mini 4; a friend gets Verizon LTE on their iPhone 6s; and I get it on my iPhone XS and my Verizon Jetpack (MiFi 7730L). In fact, it's been rare for me to see 3G on any of these devices. I have to wonder whether perhaps either your Verizon plan doesn't include LTE (a really old plan, maybe?)... or some obscure setting on your iPhone and iPad is preventing you from seeing the faster networks?This is something you'll want to clear up soonish, because Verizon is deactivating its 3G network at the end of this year.
Re: 5G Reply #10 – January 11, 2019, 11:00:55 am 5G is coming faster then most folk think. The rollout is relatively easy for the 'low' end band. All they are doing is replacing equipment. Speed will be faster than 4G by many factors. The 'high' end 5G is capable to exceed cable and wired speeds. This is the version that needs more equipment. But the real hold up is cell phone that can receive and transmit those frequencies. Nobody yet have one of those phones. They are planned for the later half of 2019 to 2020.
Re: 5G Reply #11 – January 11, 2019, 01:58:44 pm Wish I was educated enough to understand how a wireless signal is going to be faster and have greater bandwidth than a cable or fiber optics.Larry
Re: 5G Reply #12 – January 11, 2019, 05:53:21 pm Basically it's done with multiphasic transmit and receive. What that means is the bits are pushed in parallel. Kind of like the difference between serial and parallel print cables. Also they are reducing overhead and using smarter error corrections. One of the keys is new and updated computer algorithms. That is not the real explanation but it gives a good idea of what is happening. 5G - Wikipedia
Re: 5G Reply #13 – January 11, 2019, 08:10:53 pm Quote from: Joan - January 10, 2019, 12:30:36 pmMy iPhone 6 and iPad mini 3 on Verizon have never gotten anything except 3G, no matter where I am. Joan,Look at Settings->Cellular->Cellular_Data_Options and insure that Enable LTE is turned ON.Art
Re: 5G Reply #14 – January 12, 2019, 12:14:20 am "Basically it's done with multiphasic transmit and receive. What that means is the bits are pushed in parallel."Sounds like the Harmonic Telegraph. ;-)
Topic: 5G (Read 325 times)
previous topic - next topic
Topic: 5G (Read 325 times)
previous topic - next topic