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Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Hi All,

I was wondering if any of you have ever connected an outdoor Coleman type two burner stove to your propane tank with a long hose with adapters.
I have a quick release valve for my propane tank (located just below and to the right of our sink in our RB) that can be connected to a space heater to run that (I believe that was installed by the previous owner, I don't think that was original but I'm sure you all know better) but I was wondering if I bought a long 20 ft hose if I could connect it to the Coleman stove and do away with the 1lb canisters you use with it. From what I've been looking at online it sounds like the Coleman stove has a pressure regulator arm on it, but if the propane tank you are attaching it to has a regulator as well then that is a problem. Seeing as the LD has a pressure regulator on it already from what I can tell this may be an issue? Maybe someone else has tried this before and understands what needs to be done to make it work?
My wife is worried about cooking in the LD all the time, and would like to send me outside to cook certain meals, namely breakfast with bacon. She seems to think the smell of bacon in the LD may stick around too long? The smell of bacon all day sounds fine to me, haha, but I gotta keep the wife happy.
Any help you may have will be greatly appreciated,
Thanks!
John
1999 26.5 Rear Bath
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #3 –

Propane stoves, BBQs and fire pits all use high pressure, unregulated propane, the stove has its own regulator. Your LD’s appliances use low-preesure, regulated propane.
To access high pressure propane, you need an Extend-a-Stay adaptor. It goes between the propane tank’s valve the pressure regulator. Using one requires a hose made for the higher pressure
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Installing one almost always require changes in the Factory propane line, usually cutting the regulator’s output tube and flaring of the cut end, every floorplan is different.
Modifying propane lines can be dangerious and should be done only skilled techs.
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Larry

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Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #4 –
This forum is awesome, you guys are the best,
First off, sorry I didn't search the forums good enough for my answer first. I thought I did, but obviously now I see there was plenty on here I missed after the links you shared. Thank you BSBETS and LAZY BONES, great info in all those links and videos. And I'm looking forward to hearing what your rig solution looks like LAZY BONES, thanks for your time.
And thanks LARRY W, your explanation makes sense, I understand now why I'm finding online you can't have two regulators on the system attached to the Coleman stove. Also your warning is a good one, I will head it. I'm not so sure I'm up for changing the factory propane line at this moment, but possibly later this year as I look into having someone do it.
I have a second question for you guys. I was looking into what it takes to refill 1lb canisters. I really hate the idea of paying for these single use cans just to chuck them in the garbage. It looks like the normal 1lb cans shouldn't really be refilled, but they do make 1lb'ers that are designed for refilling and reuse. All the systems I've seen seem to use standard 20lb cans to refill the 1lb ones. Would I be able to safely refill a refillable 1lb canister from an LD tank? Or would the pressure regulator not give me the high pressure I might need to pull it off? Could I theoretically buy an adapter that hooks up to my already installed quick connect outlet in the coach to facilitate that? I'm guessing this won't work, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts. I saw in one of the links that LINDA HYLTON had an "extend-a-stay" added to her propane system in order to fill a separate tank; sounds to me like the high pressure is needed to pull that off.
Thanks guys, much appreciated
John
1999 26.5 Rear Bath
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #5 –
I never like tossing those disposable 1LB propane canisters and I don't like being uncertain about how much usable propane is left in one.  For several years I've carried a small refillable  5LB tank like the Manchester Tank & Equip 10054.3 for fueling a barbecue.  An adapter hose with a connector that screws into the barbecue where the propane canister usually goes finishes the setup.  Now that we have a rig without propane, it works well.  Knowing its empty weight, I can check its weight on a scale and figure out about how much propane is left.

Art
Art and Barbara
Settled in Atterdag Village of Solvang
2015-2022 fulltime in a 2016 Tiffin Allegro Bus 37AP
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Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #6 –
Quote from: JohnDon  - 
I saw in one of the links that LINDA HYLTON had an "extend-a-stay" added to her propane system in order to fill a separate tank; sounds to me like the high pressure is needed to pull that off.

I believe Linda used their Extend-a-Stay to connect external 20-lb, or larger, propane tanks, for use when parked or boondocking for a long period.
Like Art, we carry a portable propane tank that can be used with a propane camping stove, BBQ and a small fire pit.
The same propane tank can be connected tot he LD’s propane system to supplement its supply.
I have never refilled any 1-lb cans, it used to be illegal, since the o-ring seals were not designed to multiple uses and could cause leaks.

Now, 1-lb refillable cans are available but filling requires a special stand for the larger, 20-lb propane supply can, along with a dedicated fill valve assembly.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinder-YSN164/305539511
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinder-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT/305539519#overlay

Larry
Larry
2003 23.5' Front Lounge, since new.  Previously 1983 22' Front Lounge.
Tow vehicles  2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, 2001 Jeep Cherokee
Photo Collection: Lazy Daze
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #7 –
Reference my Post #2 this thread...

As my rig is currently in the shop for maintenance I cannot provide eye witness information but will have to depend on my weak memory.

Before this modification (Attaching BBQ to RV Main Tank) I experienced the problem spoken of in the Video, that of oil contamination in the supply hose. Wanting to avoid that and have the advantage of using the BBQ on the passenger (Patio) side of the LD I started accumulating the needed parts. You will note that in the Video RV Geeks ran a hose under his Class A from the downstream side of the auxiliary regulator. Doing it that way assures that the hose will be under pressure the entire distance. I was not comfortable with that idea due to the previously mentioned problems. Therefore I added a shut off valve immediately after the output of the auxiliary regulator. Shutting down the LP at this point will allow an empty supply hose from tank to BBQ.  For my supply line I used two (2) 12' hoses, securing the 1st to frame members under the LD. At the output end, prior to the quick disconnect I added a second shut off valve just prior to the output quick disconnect. Although it wasn't specifically mentioned in the Video you can see RV Geeks also had a valve at the same point.

I use a Napoleon PRO285 BBQ. This unit comes with it's own low pressure regulator. So you have an auxiliary 15lb regulator at the Stay-and play, a cut off valve, two 12' hoses, another cut off valve, terminated with a quick disconnect. The other half of the QD is attached to the BBQ.

Hopefully you will be able to follow the Video and this explanation. I can now cook my burgers and dogs well away from the curb side of the Lazy Daze!
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #8 –
Thanks ART and LARRY,
Got a question for you guys, maybe it's a dumb question.
When you guys bring along your separate propane tanks, where do you store them during the ride? How do you secure them? Where is the safest place to put them? LARRY do you carry a 5lb tank like ART or do you carry a 20lb tank?
I think your solutions for bringing along a bigger refillable tank might be the best solution for me; I just want to make sure I'm storing it the proper way. Got little kids on the trip so just want to make sure I'm transporting it all safely.
Thanks
John
1999 26.5 Rear Bath
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #9 –
Thanks LAZY BONES,
I really appreciate this explanation and the video you sent before, perfectly addressed my problem.
I didn't realize how involved it was at first, but now seeing what is involved I'll probably try a portable canister solution for the time being, but I'd love to do something like you have done in 6-12 months.
John
1999 26.5 Rear Bath
 
Re: Connecting an outdoor Coleman stove to LD propane tank
Reply #10 –
"...but I'd love to do something like you have done in 6-12 months."

John

No need to rush into what may not be in your skill set! I'll confess that all I did was collect the parts and then I went to my bulk propane dealer where a young attendant had told me he would do the grunt work if I brought him the parts. And it was done. Looking back at the machinations I went through before this mod.  I am so glad to now have a very simple arrangement.  ;) 
Steve S.
Lazy Bones & Cedar
2004 30'IB (Island Bed)
Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery
Live for the day!