Odd space under rear sofa??? October 22, 2017, 12:06:48 pm Well, after my posts exclaiming how well constructed our Lazy Daze is, we found a surprise this morning. When Cyndy was making the rear port side bunk and I was preparing to break camp, she found a section of the wood paneling missing between the bunk and the outside compartment beneath it, and sunlight shining through the gapIs this space normally present in the 27MB, or did someone cut the paneling too short and just install it anyways? Since the space connects to a storage compartment that is normally shut and is beneath a cushion, it shouldn't be a problem, but I hate to think that there are other shortcuts and glitches that I just haven't discovered yet.Photo fortcoming.Grrrr....HD
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #1 – October 22, 2017, 12:13:10 pm Maybe the previous owner started a 'project' and didn't complete it?
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #2 – October 22, 2017, 12:31:06 pm From the edge of the cuts, the square angle of the two wooden pieces, and the location of the wood support beneath it, it appears to be original.Sorry, photos taken but won't load.HD
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #3 – October 22, 2017, 01:42:38 pm I think you are seeing the slot for the bed to slide in/out.There are no shortcuts. 3 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #4 – October 22, 2017, 05:12:28 pm I think Don is correct. I’ve seen daylight through the gap for the “bed slide” on our MidBath. 1 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #5 – October 22, 2017, 06:48:05 pm There should be plywood underneath the entire couch/bed cushion. I don't know why a piece would be missing, but I would replace it, in any event. However, that is all that would separate the coach cushion from an outside compartment that extends above floor level. In our FL, that compartment also extends below floor level, so I added foamboard insulation to the top of the outside compartment, filling the space between the couch frame studs.Steve 1 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #6 – October 22, 2017, 06:53:03 pm Steve, how did you attach the foam board to the framing studs? 1 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #7 – October 22, 2017, 07:57:01 pm My '88 MB has a gap for the TK wooden sliding bed guide. 1 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #8 – October 22, 2017, 08:13:10 pm Quote from: JCT - October 22, 2017, 06:53:03 pmSteve, how did you attach the foam board to the framing studs?Joan, I cut the board for a press-fit between the studs with the plywood removed, then used a styrofoam-compatible glue (applied to the foil side of the foamboard) to attach it to the underside of the plywood when I screwed it back in place on the studs.Steve
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #9 – October 22, 2017, 08:17:46 pm Got it; thanks. 1/2" foam board so the additional height of the base still allows the couch cushion to be held in place by the lip (on the front of the base)?
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #10 – October 22, 2017, 08:19:49 pm Quote from: rodneyhelfrich - October 22, 2017, 07:57:01 pmMy '88 MB has a gap for the TK wooden sliding bed guide. Our FL has that too, but it's function will be obvious unless the guide is missing. Is that slot over an outside compartment in the MB? In ours, the space underneath the slot is occupied by the water tank, so is within the insulated perimeter.Steve
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #11 – October 22, 2017, 08:30:02 pm Quote from: JCT - October 22, 2017, 08:17:46 pmGot it; thanks. 1/2" foam board so the additional height of the base still allows the couch cushion to be held in place by the lip (on the front of the base)?No, the foam is strictly between the studs, so the plywood screws back down to the studs as before. I used two thicknesses of 3/4" foamboard, so it fills the gaps between the 1.75" studs, in the ceiling of the outside compartment. I don't have a finished pic, but here is a pic of what it looked like before the foam was installed.
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #12 – October 22, 2017, 09:12:01 pm Of course; between the studs, not on top of them. Duh. Thanks, Steve! 😉
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #13 – October 22, 2017, 10:42:52 pm Blueox, the 1x slide board attached to the bottom of the couch base fits between the plywood panels so when pulled out or pushed in it stays in the correct sliding position. If the outside compartment is open, you will see light as it is open into the compartment.Also, great idea for the insulation!Paul 1 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #14 – October 22, 2017, 11:07:39 pm After posting this morning, I looked under the port side couch and found a small 1x2 about 2-3 inches long with a set of staple holes in it on the floor. When we get home, I'll remove the sliding couch base and see how it works and if it is all intact.Thanks again for the replies and good ideas. I always appreciate the expertise and helpfulness of the members of this forum.HD
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #15 – October 23, 2017, 02:05:30 am Same here for our 98~MB, I have had both couches out, one on the port side to expand it longer to fit our touring skies, they slide under the shower unit now. The starbord side compartment under the couch I made deeper into the coach so we could store wider chairs and a folding table we have and would not fit in the compartment before modification. I thought about changing the way they do the couch with the plywood sliding gap when I had both couches out but it worked well so I put it back the way it was. I am trying to think of a way of improving the port side couch without removing it because we need the compartment space below. We almost never use the back space as a lounge but I would hate to loose that function if you did want it, we have gone wine and bar hopping with 12 friends and a designated driver with most everyone wanting to be in the rear lounge. Karen~Liam 26 ~ MB Sirena 1 Likes
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #16 – October 23, 2017, 11:10:27 am Quote from: Steve - October 22, 2017, 08:30:02 pmNo, the foam is strictly between the studs, so the plywood screws back down to the studs as before. I used two thicknesses of 3/4" foamboard, so it fills the gaps between the 1.75" studs, in the ceiling of the outside compartment. I don't have a finished pic, but here is a pic of what it looked like before the foam was installed.Hey Steve, there is a big hole in your rig. You really ought to fix that!
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #17 – October 23, 2017, 11:58:51 am Quote from: Steve - October 22, 2017, 08:30:02 pmNo, the foam is strictly between the studs, so the plywood screws back down to the studs as before. I used two thicknesses of 3/4" foamboard, so it fills the gaps between the 1.75" studs, in the ceiling of the outside compartment. I don't have a finished pic, but here is a pic of what it looked like before the foam was installed.Insulating the insides of the exterior storage compartment, where there is only a thin layer of plywood paneling, can make a big difference in wintertime camping comfort. We had noticeable drafts along the floor that were eliminated after sealing all the seams and then adding polyisocyanate foam insulation, the same as what Steve has done. Under the couch, I found seams, with see through gaps, that allowed cool air, from the exterior compartments, to pass into the interior. An commercial window and door sealant was used to deal the seams.If you camp in cold weather, sealing and insulating the exterior compartments will help keep you warmer and more comfortable . Some model, such as the 31' IB have an abundance of open gaps and passages, around the bed and bedside tables, it it certainly worthwhile to seal the gaps and insulated the walls on this model.The RK has an big open passage between the driver's side exterior compartment, into the kitchen cabinet. If the exterior compartment doors are loose fitting and the seals are ineffective, when it is windy, a breeze can blow into the interior.Every floorpan has places for improvement.While it is hard to believe right now that winter is coming, don't worry, it will be here soon.91 @ 9:00am, with a predicted high of 100,along with 30 MPH winds. Fall fire weather in SoCal.Larry
Re: Odd space under rear sofa??? Reply #18 – October 23, 2017, 04:31:41 pm Does the RB have this issue also?
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