Recalcitrant BBQ July 10, 2017, 04:57:47 pm Had posted this to a different thread but got no response... so let's see what happens here?A long standing bugaboo when trying to use our BBQ grill at the end of a 24' length of hose fed from the main LP tank on the Lazy Daze is to have very low or non-existent flame with which to cook. I've changed hoses, regulators and even grills at one time or another, to no effect.Recently I've learned that a long run of hose (for some unexplained reason) will exude an oil which will clog the hose and regulator diminishing the flame to the point of uselessness.My particular malady is not related to the erroneous procedure that causes an over pressure (as in leak) condition in the regulator. The low pressure regulators that are typically used with portable grills have a safety shut down device that can be reset by properly connecting the fuel line, regulator and grill burner valves.Has anyone else encountered my situation?
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #1 – July 10, 2017, 05:48:43 pm Saw your earlier post, but have not had this experience. Never use such a long hose.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #2 – July 10, 2017, 05:52:18 pm Steve, you said "24 feet" of hose; might you mean 24 inches of hose? If not, I think it could well be that the length of hose is the problem?
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #3 – July 10, 2017, 06:18:55 pm You didn't say what size diameter hose you have. That could be a problem. You also didn't say if you are regulating it at the tank or at the grill. If you are regulating it at the tank there might not be enough pressure to push all that stuff through.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #4 – July 10, 2017, 06:23:00 pm "... you said "24 feet" of hose..."Indeed, I did say twenty-four feet of hose, that's two 12' sections, coupled in series, which I route around the front tires so that I may do my grilling on the passenger side of the rig.And yes again, I am also coming to the conclusion that the long run of hose is the major part of my problem. I am currently working on an arrangement whereby I can route the hose, permanently, underneath the rig and through the back wall of the large forward compartment and out to the grill on that passenger side. Learned something new today about propane. - iRV2 Forums
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #5 – July 10, 2017, 06:26:56 pm Are you teeing off before or after the LD tank regulator?
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #6 – July 10, 2017, 07:05:39 pm This video should help, Steve:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbp4LiOjXbI
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #7 – July 10, 2017, 07:07:24 pm "Are you teeing off before or after ..."My Tee is before the regulator so I am tapping the high pressure side to send fuel to the low pressure regulator on the grill.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #8 – July 10, 2017, 07:09:07 pm HiLola"This video should help"Yup, that's the one, looks like you discovered it too! 1 Likes
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #9 – July 10, 2017, 08:19:29 pm Go to YouTube videos and search for "How to Connect an RV to External Propane". It talks about the same kind of problems you were having. Sorry I don't know how to post the link.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #10 – July 10, 2017, 09:31:45 pm GMFLIs this the link you spoke of?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jovTYfltUO0If it was, thank you... I had not seen that YouTube video previous to now and learned even more than I knew before.You see, I've had the Extend-A-Stay Tee connected to my LD since it was new in 2004. All that time I've been troubled by the same problem and recently decided it was time to find a solution. I'm in the process of acquiring all the parts needed to make a permanent and hopefully trouble free modification. Got my fingers crossed!This is the system I hope to install...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbp4LiOjXbI&app=desktop
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #11 – July 10, 2017, 09:40:20 pm Steve-My current coach's tank is on the passenger side. A 12-foot hose works fine when tapped upstream of the regulator. Does using a single 12-foot hose on your rig have the same problem as the 2 x 12?Mark H.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #12 – July 10, 2017, 09:54:20 pm Mark HDono, never tried a single 12' hose as my objective was to snake it along the ground, around the front wheels, so I could grill on the patio side (passenger side). I have used a disposable 1# canister but that comes with different issues in and of itself.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #13 – July 10, 2017, 09:57:21 pm What "issues" have you had with 1 lb. propane canisters?
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #14 – July 10, 2017, 10:12:05 pm Joan"What "issues" have you had...?"The way my current grill is constructed there is virtually NO clearance between the fat little bottle's shoulder and the abrupt and sharp corner of the temperature control on the grill. I've found that the slender LP canisters (such as those used for a portable torch) are a much better fit. Then there's the constant dread of running out of fuel before dinner is cooked. And others...
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #15 – July 10, 2017, 10:42:27 pm I have a Weber Q1000 and find the same clearance problem with the 16 oz. canisters; the 14.5 oz. are longer and narrower, don't "hang", and thread on squarely without stressing the connection and possibly causing a leak. I don't have space to carry even a small LPG tank, so the canisters are the choice.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #16 – July 10, 2017, 11:14:37 pm Joan"I...find the same clearance problem with the 16 oz. canisters..."The solution to that problem is to use a short hose with the appropriate connectors on each end, adapting the canister to the grills regulator. I've used one of my 12' hoses for that application. This one would be ideal...Amazon.com : GASPRO 5FT Propane Extension Hose Assembly With 1"X20 Female... As an Amazon Associate Lazy Daze Owners' Group earns from qualifying purchases.
Re: Recalcitrant BBQ Reply #17 – August 19, 2017, 04:35:09 pm Reference my original post regarding problem with overly long LP hose...After having acquired all the parts needed, see video:How To Connect a BBQ Grill to an RV's On-board Propane Tank - RVgeeksI thought it prudent to get some advise from my local bulk Propane dealer. My intent was to determine, first if it was feasible and secondarily if it was safe. The outcome was entirely unexpected... the tech whom I asked said that it was both feasible and safe and offered to do the job right there on the spot. He not only accomplished what I wanted but did it with substantially fewer parts and because I provided many of the needed parts told me he was not going to charge me labor because he "was doing it for fun". He ran the new hose under the chassis, over a frame rail, and through the back wall of the front passenger side compartment so that it is accessible on the patio side where I like to place my grill. Bottom line = <$50. It pays to work with those who know what they're doing! 3 Likes
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